Should i really stick my neck out ?

[rumak]

Starting any new topic usually is a big mistake.   Just asking if its raining in Isaan can lead to more damage to ones ego than 

when you go back to see lasts nights sweetheart and she's in the arms of some ugly old man.  And doesn't smile at you.

Enough of that.  I am sticking my neck out to question whether those who post critical comments about the way the government 

and its many branches carries out their agenda have thought out whether they are doing it in a smart way.  

To me ,  a smart way would be to try to say what bothers me or I think is "unfair" ,   without slanderous name calling and definitely

without naming names and questioning their "abilities".    

I try my best to make my points with a little humor,  or sarcasm (not a favorite with Thais),  or by just giving some analogies.

 

I of course agree with the main disagreements and hoops that we as foreigners have to deal with.  ALL countries , no matter how democratic

some here think they are,  basically are governed by the elite for the elite.   ( if you want some laugh emojis, just tell me its "by the

people for the people".)   Idealism is a great dream.  When one wakes up they must deal with reality.   I don't like it.  In fact i dislike it

so much that i left my homeland 35 years ago,  and still seriously dislike the govt and the way the place is run. 

 

I liked Thailand a lot more ,  foregoing the so proclaimed "intelligent conversation"  for just a simpler and less aggressive way of life.

I still find it much much better than western governing ..... the nanny state of all mothers.

I am getting off tangent  ????     My point that I want to make is that when someone calls me names or gets aggressive with me,  I certainly do not look for ways to make their life easier.  In fact i think they are very stupid to be that way .   Fortunately I am not in a position of power.

If i was, they would find their lives getting more difficult , not easier.   Maybe I would be a kinder and wiser ruler than those here in power.

But maybe, like with anyone, if i kept getting attacked I might just react in the famous western way.  The middle path would disappear, and the middle finger take its place.      

 

I write this hoping it is food for thought.   And now prepare for some tomatoes that will head my way.   peace and love

Edited September 3, 2020 by rumak

[Kadilo]

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Edited September 3, 2020 by Kadilo

[rumak]

Just now, Kadilo said:

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i am honored that you are the first one ..... lol

[Kadilo]

I get what you are saying that if someone goes on the attack then your defenses go up and you’re gonna make life more difficult for them going forwards, or less likely to listen. 
 

I am not sure if this government work that way. One could argue that the PM paying attention to one Germans open letter shows you are correct but there is little evidence to suggest anything else recently. 

Edited September 3, 2020 by Kadilo

[Keyser Soze666]

What on earth are you rambling on about??

[Kwasaki]

20 minutes ago, rumak said:

My point that I want to make is that when someone calls me names or gets aggressive with me,  I certainly do not look for ways to make their life easier.  In fact i think they are very stupid to be that way . 

 

 Fortunately I am not in a position of power.

Never had anyone get aggressive with me in 15 years. 

I don't want to be in a position of power anymore that's why I retired here. 

[rumak]

Just now, Kwasaki said:

Never had anyone get aggressive with me in 15 years. 

I don't want to be in a position of power anymore that's why I retired here. 

exactly .    nobody likes aggressive .   that's why i wonder why some posts "attacking" the position

of power do not see that it will hurt , not help their cause.    I think that people on forums think nobody knows that they are calling others idiots.    

Edited September 3, 2020 by rumak

[Kwasaki]

2 minutes ago, rumak said:

exactly .    nobody likes aggressive .   that's why i wonder why some posts "attacking" the position

of power do not see that it will hurt , not help their cause

There's a lot of planks here on TV criticizing Thailand coming from nanny countries so aggressive posts are to be expected.

If you ask me many think I'm a plank but it's water off a ducks back when you are sage. ????????????

[potless]

54 minutes ago, rumak said:

Enough of that.  I am sticking my neck out to question whether those who post critical comments about the way the government 

and its many branches carries out their agenda have thought out whether they are doing it in a smart way.  

To me ,  a smart way would be to try to say what bothers me or I think is "unfair" ,   without slanderous name calling and definitely

without naming names and questioning their "abilities". 

I agree. Taking a hostile stance is often counter productive, especially in the East where "face" is important. 

 

59 minutes ago, rumak said:

I liked Thailand a lot more ,  foregoing the so proclaimed "intelligent conversation"  for just a simpler and less aggressive way of life.

I still find it much much better than western governing

The simpler way of life was a major factor for me. From the beginning, I knew I would be a second class (if even that) person and as such, with no say and no desire to get involved in domestic politics, I could relax. 

[Puchaiyank]

Stick with the comic relief...this post is depressing!   ????

[rumak]

38 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

Stick with the comic relief...this post is depressing!   ????

hahaha    i like to diversify .   i will start coding my posts    S =  sarcasm

                                                                                      T=  tongue in cheek

                                                                                      D =  depressing

                       STD =  response to someone particularly annoying 

[meechai]

14 hours ago, rumak said:

ALL countries , no matter how democratic

some here think they are,  basically are governed by the elite for the elite.

True that ^

 

Also a nice turning point in my life is when I realized regardless of what country, what govt etc etc none of it really

ever directly impacted my life so why bother with it? I know many will claim it is a head in the sand outlook but I think it

can also be described as self preservation.

 

I mean I watch the left & the right go at it literally tooth & nail in the USA & what

does it achieve? I know folks who spend their life watching politics on TV & yelling at the tube what did it change?

Same as it ever was...drags their health & outlook on life down the drain.

 

The old saying "tune out the noise" is like a vitamin these days????

[rumak]

Just now, meechai said:

I know folks who spend their life watching politics on TV & yelling at the tube what did it change?

Same as it ever was...

exactly.    and maybe worse than it ever was.    self preservation is  number one now

 

what are you doing up so early ?   ????     

[torturedsole]

I wish you'd sent me a PM, rumak.

 

Would have worked some magic and edited your OP down to one succinct sentence.  

[oompie69]

6 minutes ago, meechai said:

True that ^

 

Also a nice turning point in my life is when I realized regardless of what country, what govt etc etc none of it really

ever directly impacted my life so why bother with it? I know many will claim it is a head in the sand outlook but I think it

can also be described as self preservation.

 

I mean I watch the left & the right go at it literally tooth & nail in the USA & what

does it achieve? I know folks who spend their life watching politics on TV & yelling at the tube what did it change?

Same as it ever was...drags their health & outlook on life down the drain.

 

The old saying "tune out the noise" is like a vitamin these days????

And the more you develop the skill to "tune out the noise" the more contented your life becomes. Why, in any case spend your day complaining about that which you cannot change? It only makes you ill in the end.

Some believe that misery needs company and are only too willing to spend tons of effort on drawing people's attention to misery inducing events. The MSM are the kings of this.

[torturedsole]

4 minutes ago, oompie69 said:

And the more you develop the skill to "tune out the noise" the more contented your life becomes.

I hear you, brother. Prioritise the nonsense to nothing and life becomes easier in a blink.   

[mr mr]

stopped reading the drivel after it sounded like you needed a box of tissue to wipe your coochie. 

 

gotta go now someone is wrong in another thread. i have to go make some snide remark about how bad their post is too. 

 

later. 

[Lacessit]

13 hours ago, rumak said:

hahaha    i like to diversify .   i will start coding my posts    S =  sarcasm

                                                                                      T=  tongue in cheek

                                                                                      D =  depressing

                       STD =  response to someone particularly annoying 

I'm pretty sure inferring someone has that is against forum rules.

[BritManToo]

q: What can I say about the current Thai government.

a: Would be up for dating his daughters.

 

I can't think of any government in the world that's any better than the Thai government.

[rumak]

1 hour ago, mr mr said:

stopped reading the drivel after it sounded like you needed a box of tissue to wipe your coochie. 

 

gotta go now someone is wrong in another thread. i have to go make some snide remark about how bad their post is too. 

 

later. 

Well,  mr mr    you surely caught me out on that one .     a sharp one you are indeed

 

you see,  with a little effort you can improve your nasty remarks.    that is what the post is about 

(oh yeah,  you stopped reading)       loveya man  

 

[rumak]

2 hours ago, torturedsole said:

I wish you'd sent me a PM, rumak.

 

Would have worked some magic and edited your OP down to one succinct sentence.  

next time....

 

[Eddy Ozark]

Considering that a pregnant housewife was recently arrested by four police officers in Victoria for a Facebook post critical of Covid 19 measures, I would not stick my neck out unnecessarily. However, social media is today's most powerful media. It is the voice of the people.

[rumak]

32 minutes ago, Eddy Ozark said:

I would not stick my neck out unnecessarily. However, social media is today's most powerful media. It is the voice of the people

Agree with both points.   That is why i tried  to suggest that doing so in a way other than just saying how stupid everything and everyone is ( and naming names, which is stupid is as stupid does)  might have better results.

      

Keep using social media to let your feelings/thoughts be heard.   If people insist on just being crude and distasteful they will surely not win any concessions.   Just look at some here on Thaivisa who make fools of themselves daily.   Guys such as  deleted  and  deleted  and deleted.  ????????

Governments are no different.   Trying to explain to them that they might consider changing their ways

is IMO  a lost cause.    But,  maybe miracles happen.  

Edited September 4, 2020 by rumak

[mr mr]

4 minutes ago, rumak said:

Guys such as  deleted  and  deleted  and deleted. 

god i hope to rise to the level of the deleted one day. 

Edited September 4, 2020 by mr mr

[rumak]

if anyone is on the edge of your wheelchair wondering who  deleted and deleted  and deleted  are,

 

we can start a poll  ????       

[rumak]

Just now, mr mr said:

god i hope to rise to the level of the deleted one day. 

i am not god.   just rumak.

 

the polling has just begun but you do seem to be a front runner  .    

[mr mr]

18 minutes ago, rumak said:

i am not god.   just rumak.

 

the polling has just begun but you do seem to be a front runner  .    

sweet. iv'e never won anything before let's hope this time my luck changes. 

[bobbin]

"The middle path would disappear, and the middle finger take its place."

 

This is a great line ????

[geronimo]

If one can detach oneself from emotion then life is always very nice ........ must write a poem about that .......

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, geronimo said:

If one can detach oneself from emotion then life is always very nice ........ must write a poem about that .......

I achieved that status about 7 years back.

Don't care about anyone or anything (all that much).