Pattaya: After the busy long weekend the resort is completely deserted again

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, Crusader said:

Having not experienced that sort of Pattaya...it must be quite pleasant - no tourists shouting at their new 'girlfriends', no Russians walking round in department stores in their swimming gear, no drunks staggering around along beach road, no long lines of Chinese tourists, all with their hotel towels, following the tour guide along the road, no unlicenced motorcyclists (tourists) racing around the place...might just have to go down for a few days.

It is delightful for most of us. Unfortunately it is downright tragic for millions connected with international tourism. 

[spidermike007]

You simply cannot evaluate a major holiday weekend, and say things are even close to normal. It is great that the Thais are stepping up, taking advantage of great deals, and supporting the tourism industry. It helps, no doubt. But, it is only a portion of what the hotels, restaurants, and other businesses need. The industry is hurting, big time. 

 

Thailand needs courageous leadership. They don't have it. The army are major cowards. ANY person from ANY nation should be welcome starting tomorrow, if they are willing to subject themselves to a 14 day prison sentence (quarantine) and pay excessive fees for that two week sentence. There is no downside or risk, and only upside for the nation. No groveling from a local consulate should be required. That is utter nonsense. A covid free letter and a booking at an approved hotel. End of story. The little guys need to act now. 

[kokopelli]

14 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is delightful for most of us. Unfortunately it is downright tragic for millions connected with international tourism. 

I live in Pattaya and I don't find it delightful, at all. Tragic is the word.

[sambum]

"They agreed that the resort was busy for the long weekend but by Tuesday the 8th things were back to normal." 

 

Didn't take long for the "new normal" to take effect!

[ThailandRyan]

4 hours ago, vivananahuahin said:

Yes 3 days work 4 days holiday each week,the big solution for the government,but how long ,6 months,one year.

How about for the rest of there lives.  Lets see, why not let all workers take the first 20 years of there careers off as retirement so they can enjoy it while they can, then they can come back to work and do there job right up until the day they die without anymore days off or holidays.  I would think the Thai people would jump at this scenario.

[spidermike007]

23 minutes ago, kokopelli said:

I live in Pattaya and I don't find it delightful, at all. Tragic is the word.

Yes. I tend to agree. Some find the lack of crowds to be pleasant. It sure is a big change. But, the devastation to the economy, and the situation with the locals I have spoken with, is absolutely tragic. What is even more tragic is the cowardice, indifference, indecisiveness and timidity of the leadership here. They barely seem concerned with the well being of the plebs, much less us lowly ex-pats. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by spidermike007

[Truth Will Set You Free]

It’s nice that the people come from Bangkok to Pattaya but they bring a lot of issues with them. They have no respect for the people in Pattaya. Too many da mn cars.....They don’t practice social distance which one day, it will bite the people of Pattaya. I am happy they are not here every weekend.  
 

It great that Pattaya is quite. I know it hurts the people with jobs but they should be use to it. It’s quite in their Province after 8 pm. 

[Enoon]

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

So what is the answer, a 3 day week for all Bangkok workers?

No.

 

That would cause other sections of the economy to under-perform (state sponsored absenteeism).

 

Give money to the unemployed (who are "under-consuming") to go to, and spend it in, tourist destinations.

 

Mechanisms would have to be put in place to make sure that the right people spent it in the right place.

 

 

 

Edited September 10, 2020 by Enoon

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, petermik said:

aah pure bliss....peaceful once more

I wish I was there to enjoy it.

 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

However, she said that this rise in numbers was only true for the long weekends. She called on the government to come up with more long holidays to spur growth in the sector. 

Yeah right. The employers would love that.

[GAZZPA]

I wonder if those people who constantly defend Pattaya saying that whilst some part are dead the city is thriving in othe areas are actually reading this. Pattaya was sliding downhill for the 5 or 6 years prior to COVID, I am glad I got the majority of my business and investments out of there. There needs to be a very urgent realisation of how urgent things are and serious action is required, whatever that may be because if this continues it will become like a complete ghost town. Very sad considering how the city used to be.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, Enoon said:

No.

 

That would cause other sections of the economy to under-perform (state sponsored absenteeism).

 

Give money to the unemployed (who are "under-consuming") to go to, and spend it in, tourist destinations.

 

Mechanisms would have to be put in place to make sure that the right people spent it in the right place.

 

 

 

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If that happened expect a lot of people leaving work to have a freebee on the government. Why work when the unemployed get paid holidays?

[Derek B]

3 hours ago, davidmann said:

same. on the french coast in lock down. nice quite.  ,its not just thailand , its the world that is suffering  and business  everywhere.  ,and lets say WHY.  .due to the Chinese  eating wild animals.  ,how many people in the world. lost loved ones ,how many people out work ,how many business  have or will be lost world wide ,streets and bars are empty everywhere 

The Chinese breed/farm captured "wild" animals for sale. However this virus is said to have leaked out of a research laboratory. 

[GlassWayOverHalfFull]

More garbage again by Pattaya Bashing Thai Visa

 

How can I sit in traffic today?

 

How can the restaurant I had lunch in be busy?

 

Just because Beer Bars are quiet it doesn't mean the town is dead. It just means that Thai's don't go to the bars and most of the long term residents don't go to Walking Street or Crappy Beer Bars at the other end of the scale. 

 

Between, Crystal Agogo, Queen, Upstairs at Kink, Pin-Up and Windmill were all packed last night. 

 

But Thai Visa knows best. 

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, GAZZPA said:

I wonder if those people who constantly defend Pattaya saying that whilst some part are dead the city is thriving in othe areas are actually reading this. Pattaya was sliding downhill for the 5 or 6 years prior to COVID, I am glad I got the majority of my business and investments out of there. There needs to be a very urgent realisation of how urgent things are and serious action is required, whatever that may be because if this continues it will become like a complete ghost town. Very sad considering how the city used to be.

Indeed. Some didn't realise that because of the horde, but they don't spread the money around in the places Pattaya is famous for.

[GAZZPA]

43 minutes ago, kokopelli said:

I live in Pattaya and I don't find it delightful, at all. Tragic is the word.

Just get any investments out of there as quickly as possible to reduce your personal exposure and then relax and enjoy the peace and quiet. For those who have invested heavily in property I really feel for them, although I saw the start of the decline some years ago and sold my condos, so if they are living in denial and have sat on their property then they only really have themselves to blame. maybe one day there will be some kind of property price increase but it wont be soon and I imagine a lot of the investors are already older individuals. The property crash is coming if it has not started already. 

[Pottinger]

News Just In - no tourists coming into Thailand, local people on the whole work on days which are not holidays - why would it be any different in the KFSR?

 

Non story.

[Enoon]

1 hour ago, brucegoniners said:

And so pleasant to live in!

When a town/city or area loses its primary and major source of income, it loses it's ability to maintain itself in the condition "to which it has become accustomed".

 

You will not find it quite so "pleasant" when it has declined to become the equivalent of a

ruined ex-steel town or coalfield, or of a farming community annihilated during the days of the "Dust Bowl", or, most apposite, a played out gold mining town.

 

 

Edited September 10, 2020 by Enoon

[GAZZPA]

6 minutes ago, GlassWayOverHalfFull said:

More garbage again by Pattaya Bashing Thai Visa

 

How can I sit in traffic today?

 

How can the restaurant I had lunch in be busy?

 

Just because Beer Bars are quiet it doesn't mean the town is dead. It just means that Thai's don't go to the bars and most of the long term residents don't go to Walking Street or Crappy Beer Bars at the other end of the scale. 

 

Between, Crystal Agogo, Queen, Upstairs at Kink, Pin-Up and Windmill were all packed last night. 

 

But Thai Visa knows best. 

Sorry you are living in denial, the town made it's money on thriving tourism, it is not a manufacturing hub, it has no financial district, it has nothing but tourism. How empty do the key areas have to get before you see this? How many Thai business people have to tell you they need urgent help before you realise things are very bad? Some people just won't lift their head out of the sand and take a look around them. if some kind of miraculous plan is put in place by a true leader it will get worse and worse, property price crash is on the cards.

[thaibeachlovers]

23 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes. I tend to agree. Some find the lack of crowds to be pleasant. It sure is a big change. But, the devastation to the economy, and the situation with the locals I have spoken with, is absolutely tragic. What is even more tragic is the cowardice, indifference, indecisiveness and timidity of the leadership here. They barely seem concerned with the well being of the plebs, much less us lowly ex-pats. 

In the 90s Pattaya did just fine with a lot less tourists and hotels etc.

If the same number of the people that arrived after this century started left Pattaya would be a lot better off- it might even be as great again as it was in the 90s. Pattaya became far too crowded to be enjoyable, which, IMO, is why it was becoming unpopular with farang visitors ( which it definitely was ).

I hope a lot of businesses close, so the rest can make a decent living from a reduced tourist presence.

[Nicknoodle]

Isn’t it amazing how they didn’t want us farrang in thailand, now it looks like they may miss us. 555. Perhaps if we visit again we will see some genuine Thai smiles! 

[GAZZPA]

1 minute ago, Enoon said:

When a town/city or area loses its primary and major source of income, it loses it's ability to maintain itself in the condition "to which it has become accustomed".

 

You will not find it quite so "delightful" when it has declined to become the equivalent of a

ruined ex-steel town or coalfield, or of a farming community annihilated during the days of the "Dust Bowl", or, most apposite, a played out gold mining town.

 

 

A man who understand the basics of economics, unlike so many on here... Shame you are not in charge fella. ????

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, Enoon said:

When a town/city or area loses its primary and major source of income, it loses it's ability to maintain itself in the condition "to which it has become accustomed".

 

You will not find it quite so "delightful" when it has declined to become the equivalent of a

ruined ex-steel town or coalfield, or of a farming community annihilated during the days of the "Dust Bowl", or, most apposite, a played out gold mining town.

 

 

That's not going to happen. It'll just reposition itself for the Thai weekenders and the horde will likely be back too soon.

Just kiss the farang nite scene goodbye.

[GAZZPA]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

In the 90s Pattaya did just fine with a lot less tourists and hotels etc.

If the same number of the people that arrived after this century started left Pattaya would be a lot better off- it might even be as great again as it was in the 90s. Pattaya became far too crowded to be enjoyable, which, IMO, is why it was becoming unpopular with farang visitors ( which it definitely was ).

I hope a lot of businesses close, so the rest can make a decent living from a reduced tourist presence.

you are living in cloud cuckoo land fella, since when does an economy thrive after losing it's primary income? There is only one way to go when that happens and thats into dereliction unless some plan is drawn to reinvent the town. It will not become a reduced size, cozy seaside resort. 

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, GAZZPA said:

Sorry you are living in denial, the town made it's money on thriving tourism, it is not a manufacturing hub, it has no financial district, it has nothing but tourism. How empty do the key areas have to get before you see this? How many Thai business people have to tell you they need urgent help before you realise things are very bad? Some people just won't lift their head out of the sand and take a look around them. if some kind of miraculous plan is put in place by a true leader it will get worse and worse, property price crash is on the cards.

Pattaya can survive very nicely without so many restaurants and shops. If the remaining hotels have to lower prices, so much the better for us, the visitors.

[steven100]

World class resort and no customer.

[GAZZPA]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's not going to happen. It'll just reposition itself for the Thai weekenders and the horde will likely be back too soon.

Just kiss the farang nite scene goodbye.

You could be right, but weekend trade cannot support a city of that size and population. The only thing I can think of that might save Pattaya is if they passed the law to plonk Casinos there.. 

[steven100]

4 minutes ago, Nicknoodle said:

Perhaps if we visit again we will see some genuine Thai smiles! 

don't hold your breath 

[GAZZPA]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Pattaya can survive very nicely without so many restaurants and shops. If the remaining hotels have to lower prices, so much the better for us, the visitors.

No it can't, you will see.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 minutes ago, GAZZPA said:

you are living in cloud cuckoo land fella, since when does an economy thrive after losing it's primary income? There is only one way to go when that happens and thats into dereliction unless some plan is drawn to reinvent the town. It will not become a reduced size, cozy seaside resort. 

So, less income comes in does not mean everything collapses. Loads of Thais coming for the weekend.

If immigration pulled it's head out it could reposition Pattaya as a hub for farang retirees once flights resume. Lots of things can be done if one only has some vision and doesn't keep trying to do the same failed thing over and over. However, the Thais may well cause a disaster if they don't wise up. It's entirely in their hands- they never ask us what to do, do they?

 

This is a great opportunity to make Pattaya better and worthwhile visiting, if only they have some vision. Pattaya had become a <deleted><deleted> before Corona, so anything has to be better, but it could be excellent.

30 years ago Pattaya was legendary, it could be again, if the vision is there.

Edited September 10, 2020 by thaibeachlovers

[Harry Fingerling]

What with infected DJ’s, Egyptian pyramid sellers flocking into Sin City for a 4 day jolly up one wonders when the new lockdown will hit?