5 hours ago, ChakaKhan said:

Id blame the sangsom, not the baton, which isnt gonna kill anyone.....the giant hunting knife the tuk tuk guy had could have killed me. my baton was just to inflict minimal pain to run a threat off.....maybe why they gave it back to me.......I wouldnt carry a knife there.....my baton was effective at its presence or maybe pepper spray......simple defense weapons.....no one is gonna die from either of my choices.....a baseball bat would do more damage that the small thin baton I carried, and was bought as a dog deterrent on my bike.

 

But I certainly wasnt looking forward to a possible whooping with my OWN baton by some yelling thai army guy on empty thai streets after 2am......but I will always stand my ground when I see bad things going down as I get angry watching tuk tuks constantly trying to scam people, esp when its 2 cute china gals!   555

 

Besides with my liquid courage-sangsom I could have made the headlines here, made a Hansum corpse!

I did not say your baton was going to kill someone. You totally missed the point. Without the baton you might not have engaged the tuk tuk driver.

 

The baton + alcohol made you do stupid things. If no baton no confrontation. As far as weapons go its not a bad weapon as you said a knife does more damage.

 

Point was that weapons give extra courage and get one in trouble.

I've met some total tossers here in my 10 years or so. Dreamers, BS artists.....wannabe bikies, vets, ex CIA, Black ops etc....to the point where I would prefer the company of Thais. People come on TV and post questions how to repair their car, or where they can get a particular type of food.....and are instantly set upon, ridiculed and kicked to the kerb.

 

Someone comes on here posts about their heroics with batons and knives (probably a limping overweight diabetic / geriatric who was a forklift driver for 30 years back home) and everyone chimes in with their equally ridiculous stories lol. Photos of knives you can buy for $10 at any local market as if you were Rambo. So we've finally found the level of acceptance here. Kindergarten.

 

This post absolutely takes the cake

 

 

Maybe carry and use one of these, it will give a great explanation as to why people want to carry a knife.

 

On 9/11/2020 at 12:31 AM, Maestro said:

 

No, but under current rules for security checks prior to flight boarding my Swiss Army knife would be confiscated.

lost more than a few swiss army knives in my carry on>

I miss the days we could take them always with us

What a stupid question.....

4 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

This post absolutely takes the cake

Ahh, and what will you use to slice that cake? A knife, of course.

I like knives. Have some here as used to collect some back in the day. Might start to pick up a few more if I see something I like. As for carrying one around? Couldn't be bothered. On the motorcycle I would just swing my helmet for protection. 

Crikey, now that's a knife

 

 

Edited September 12, 20205 yr by ThailandRyan

4 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

I've met some total tossers here in my 10 years or so. Dreamers, BS artists.....wannabe bikies, vets, ex CIA, Black ops etc....to the point where I would prefer the company of Thais. People come on TV and post questions how to repair their car, or where they can get a particular type of food.....and are instantly set upon, ridiculed and kicked to the kerb.

 

Someone comes on here posts about their heroics with batons and knives (probably a limping overweight diabetic / geriatric who was a forklift driver for 30 years back home) and everyone chimes in with their equally ridiculous stories lol. Photos of knives you can buy for $10 at any local market as if you were Rambo. So we've finally found the level of acceptance here. Kindergarten.

 

This post absolutely takes the cake

 

 

In general i feel its the less educated that need arms. But of course I am not an American so I can't comment on that culture. But in my culture its not the higher educated with weapons. Never saw my dad or any of the people that were not blue collar carry weapons. 

 

Having said that my brother who is an electrician did know some friends who did carry weapons and I also knew plumbers and people like that who had weapons (be it a crowbar or something like that) in their car. 

 

Also on my brothers school when he was young (tradesmen) weapons and stabbings were more common then where I had my education. 

 

I think its partly a macho thing or something. Also it could be that those who are poorer live in worse area's so they feel they need protection. 

 

But for those of us who live in Thailand we don't need to live in poor dangerous area's.

 

I have NEVER ever carried a weapon.

On 9/10/2020 at 9:36 PM, Daffy D said:

Wasn't there a guy who got done for carrying a Swiss Army knife?

 

It was his wife who got done. She was with him and IIRC told the police she had the knife for protection. (They were stopped at a normal traffic check and the officer spotted the knife). The photos in the press weren't clear. It could have been the largest SAK (latest Soldier model or similar) or one of those automatics you could buy at various markets. In any case, she gave an unacceptable reason. Fine and knife confiscated.

 

I believe the law forbids knives in public places unless you have a reason. The farang yacht guy who fatally stabbed an attacking bouncer with his pocket knife was cleared on self defense basis. He said the knife was needed to cut ropes on the boat etc and was in his pocket.

 

It seems it depends on the knife, the circumstances and how it's being used at the time.

1 hour ago, robblok said:

In general i feel its the less educated that need arms. But of course I am not an American so I can't comment on that culture. But in my culture its not the higher educated with weapons. Never saw my dad or any of the people that were not blue collar carry weapons. 

 

Having said that my brother who is an electrician did know some friends who did carry weapons and I also knew plumbers and people like that who had weapons (be it a crowbar or something like that) in their car. 

 

Also on my brothers school when he was young (tradesmen) weapons and stabbings were more common then where I had my education. 

 

I think its partly a macho thing or something. Also it could be that those who are poorer live in worse area's so they feel they need protection. 

 

But for those of us who live in Thailand we don't need to live in poor dangerous area's.

 

I have NEVER ever carried a weapon.

 

If you go back a relatively short few decades, the carrying of bladed weapons for self defense was very common throughout Europe and most other continents.

 

Serious martial arts students still practice with HEMA (Historic European Martial Arts), and various Asian martial arts that include bladed weapons.  There are plenty of videos on Youtube and the IT has made some very interesting German, Spanish and Italian medieval books on the subject easily available. (Don't believe the Hollywood rubbish to be representative).

 

Walking sticks started to replace the carrying of swords and long knives. Although some were sword sticks of course. This too is less common now, unless for medical purposes.

 

There are a number of martial arts schools in Thailand that include weapons training. 

 

Having said all of that, I don't know many serious martial artist who walk around with a sword, Kris, dagger or fighting knife! 

 

Unfortunately, the bar stool brigade do seem to have a propensity for claiming to be ex SAS, Foreign legion, Seals or whatever. But I doubt you or I would regularly socialize with them; and I doubt they actually carry a bladed weapon. More chance of cutting themselves!

Edited September 12, 20205 yr by Baerboxer

On 9/11/2020 at 8:41 AM, robblok said:

You describe exactly what the problem is with carrying weapons. It makes people brave and take stupid risks.

 

I think, from his post, it was a better example of the problem with alcohol. Drunks tend to think they've acquired super powers! And knowing he'd got a weapon too, probably thought he was Bruce Lee!

 

 

6 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

If you go back a relatively short few decades, the carrying of bladed weapons for self defense was very common throughout Europe and most other continents.

 

Serious martial arts students still practice with HEMA (Historic European Martial Arts), and various Asian martial arts that include bladed weapons.  There are plenty of videos on Youtube and the IT has made some very interesting German, Spanish and Italian medieval books on the subject easily available. (Don't believe the Hollywood rubbish to be representative).

 

Walking sticks started to replace the carrying of swords and long knives. Although some were sword sticks of course. This too is less common now, unless for medical purposes.

 

There are a number of martial arts schools in Thailand that include weapons training. 

 

Having said all of that, I don't know any serious martial artist who walks around with a sword, Kris, dagger or fighting knife! 

 

Unfortunately, the bar stool brigade do seem to have a propensity for claiming to be ex SAS, Foreign legion, Seals or whatever. But I doubt you or I would regularly socialize with them; and I doubt they actually carry a bladed weapon. More chance of cutting themselves!

I prefer to run over fighting, but I am not a trained martial artist. To put someone down you might have to inflict serious damage and that might come back to hound you. I have no ego problems from running away.

Just now, Baerboxer said:

 

I think, from his post, it was a better example of the problem with alcohol. Drunks tend to think they've acquired super powers! And knowing he'd got a weapon too, probably thought he was Bruce Lee!

 

 

Maybe a combination of the two but of course it could just be the alcohol. Thankfully when I get drunk i get more talkative first and then fall asleep. Never got violent from it. 

16 hours ago, villageidiotY2K said:

https://www.kentaurguns.com/gas-guns-weapons/

 

 

How about gas guns?? 

There are huge selections on mega plaza yaowarat area priced at 1500~6000 baht. 

One shop's owner hides his small pistol behind the belt buckle. (not his Co ck) 

Some of Thsse gas pistols pump at 300 feet per second, and with metal pellets instead of plastic, can rip the skin to the bone.... 

Without firearm license 

 

 

I think you'll find the same or very similar rules apply to gas guns as firearms. 

 

Have one in public and hey farang, deportation awaits.

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

I prefer to run over fighting, but I am not a trained martial artist. To put someone down you might have to inflict serious damage and that might come back to hound you. I have no ego problems from running away.

 

That's the advice most true serious martial arts masters give. Avoid violence if you can. 

 

Again, Hollywood has made it look all macho and fashionable to do the opposite. People confuse entertainment with reality.

On 9/10/2020 at 10:39 PM, Kwasaki said:

Nah its been many countries where I have worked in my day.

I do have a small farm in Thailand and use it for gutting fish but throw it at trees from 10 metres mainly.

This knife is going on 50 years old.

I brought into Thailand in my main baggage when I came and retired here in 2005. 

The knife is really my friend ever since working in Qatar when faced by some PLO geezers, we were not allowed to carry guns.

 

Are the trees hostile?

The picture is a panga not a knife. These machete type weapons were much in evidence among the yellow shirt thugs blocking the junctions on sukhumvit especially around Asoke around 2010.

What possible need is there for a person to carry such a thing as this , unless going to work on a Farm, or going to the Jungle to cut Bamboo.

If you carry such a menacing weapon, you can expect either your collar felt by Plod, or a smaller Knife in your Kidneys from a Thai.

51 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

I think you'll find the same or very similar rules apply to gas guns as firearms. 

 

Have one in public and hey farang, deportation awaits.

The laws on these are unclear on air soft and gas guns, although they are freely sold in shops and malls. I was told by a policeman it is actually up to the policeman. The gas guns however are only about as powerful as a BB gun. Rip flesh to the bone no. I wouldn't want to get shot in the face with one at close range and it may be a deterrent but the other person may pull out a real gun. You are a foreigner here and the same as in a car / bike accident here. No matter whatever happened or who ever started you will likely end up in the wrong.

 

I think that this goes for all of these non sensical posts. Anyone who had any real experience would tell you never carry any sort of weapon unless you know how / are prepared to use it. You pull a knife or machete on someone here and three scenarios are likely to occur. They will pull out a gun and shoot you, they will take your Bowie knife and jam it up your a$$, or maybe worst scenario you actually kill or injure someone with it. There are no win scenarios here. Smile and move on....

 

I have been here 10 years and never felt threatened once living in big cities and villages. Thais generally aren't aggressive people unless stirred up. Then a whole different unpredictable kettle of fish. I wouldn't go to any scummy low class drinking areas here, same as I wouldn't back home. You are just putting yourself in harms way. Generally though I have never seen a Thai carrying around any sort of knife as the OP suggests like they are everywhere. Only on their way to work on a farm. People carry bats, bars, knives, guns in their cars.  In any case you never know who you are dealing with here and walking around general Thailand is hardly unsafe. Its hardly the Zombie apocalypse

1 hour ago, Nout said:

Are the trees hostile?

Only after 4 large Changs ????????????.

5 hours ago, zzzzz said:

lost more than a few swiss army knives in my carry on>

I miss the days we could take them always with us

It has to be kept in main luggage and a good reason for having it with you if that see on X-ray and ask questions. 

I sleep with this one in a case that hangs on my headboard ????

 

Edited September 12, 20205 yr by Tchooptip
saved itself before I finished it ?

Yes, when you look like this gentleman. 

2 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

It seems it depends on the knife, the circumstances and how it's being used at the time.

That is the problem here. All rules and laws it seems are open to interpretation of each individual officer.

 

Not long ago it was customary for most men to carry a pocket knife, boy scouts a knife, why would anyone have to explain carrying a small pocket knife.

 

Get an officer on a bad day you could be in trouble.  It could be argued that a boat guy needing a knife for ropes should have left the knife on the boat not walk around with it.  

 

There is no logic with Thai laws, just look at recent cases. Best be safe and leave at home anything that could in any way considered a weapon.  

20 minutes ago, Tchooptip said:

I sleep with this one in a case that hangs on my headboard ????

 

Make you are not in a deep sleep if someone comes into the room. ????????

OP's name is chopper and asking to carry a big knife?

 

    I hope that it's only a coincidence.....

On 9/10/2020 at 9:21 PM, chopper23 said:

I have seen Thai with big knife they carry for protection can Farang carry also?

Neither Thais nor foreigners can carry a "big knife" legally, depending, of course, what a "big knife" is.

Edited September 12, 20205 yr by Hi Tea

6 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Make you are not in a deep sleep if someone comes into the room. ????????

With my dog, a pure race Thai bangkeo hardly possible to come into the house, I should say approach the house without the dog waking me up first.

Of all the dogs that I have it is the best guardian, it does not bark at any other dog passing by, only at humans, it never barks like crazy but very controlled dull woof woof more he is incredibly obedient, this is a gift from my daughter-in-law she paid 20,000 Baht

you can kill someone with a pencil...  John Wick ...

 

well, if you plant it in the EYE for example