Popular Post rooster59 Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 Minister says civil servants key to corruption prevention Tanakorn Sangiam BANGKOK (NNT) - A Minister at the Office of the Prime Minister says good governance must be upheld to prevent corruption, adding that civil servants are at the heart of the anti-corruption process. Mr Anucha Nakasai, this week presided over the opening of an academic conference on good governance and corruption prevention in Thai society, organized by the Royal Society’s interdisciplinary committee for research and development. In his remarks, Minister Anucha emphasized the role played by civil servants at all government agencies in the prevention of corruption, urging them to uphold good governance and to refrain from involving themselves in any corruption, even when an illicit offer is made. He proposed an idea to give incentives to civil servants as a token of appreciation for their work, and to discourage them from participating in corruption. The conference on this occasion was attended by government officials and delegates from private firms, all keen to find mutual and practical guidelines to end corruption. Suggestions and input at the conference will be gathered by the Royal Society, and ultimately submitted to the Cabinet. -- © Copyright NNT 2020-09-12 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, rooster59 said: urging them to uphold good governance and to refrain from involving themselves in any corruption, even when an illicit offer is made. The words "fighting a losing battle"come to mind. I hope they realise that corruption starts at the very top ! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Orton Rd Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 They could do worse than start with those immigration officers accepting bribes to 'legally' overlook money in the bank requirements for extensions ???? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pottinger Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 Perhaps the minister is not familiar with the English word 'endemic'. Corruption is so much a part of the civil service that it takes payment of a bribe to even enter the profession, at least in cases where self-enrichment is possible. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flying Saucage Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Basically what he wants to say is that only those on the top of the hirarchy are "authorized" to take the big bribes, but the lower ranks of civil service have to strictly do as the boss tells them, and not to accept any bribes of others, in order to avoid any disturbance of this hierarchic rule. This wonderful article discribes very well this very special Mafia-like Thai culture: https://thisrupt.co/society/thailands-patronage-culture/ Edited September 12, 2020 by Flying Saucage 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 Laughable; it is in the realms of the Civil Service where the majority of corruption is centered and they are hardly likely to want to change anything ! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 They need to start from the top with the unelected PM who got appointed with the party who really did not win the election. Amazing how someone can increase wealth since 2014. Also amazing someone can have given himself immunity. Also amazing that someone could have over 25 very very expensive loaned watches from a dead friend. No one is buying this trivial poppycock. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JusticeGB Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: adding that civil servants are at the heart of the anti-corruption process. It seems that the word "anti" was a typo added in by mistake. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangless Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Does anyone. and that includes the Thai so called politicians, actually either believe in this claptrap themselves or even think that anyone else does either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, rooster59 said: He proposed an idea to give incentives to civil servants as a token of appreciation for their work So another form of corruption,from the Government itself,we will bride you not to take bribes, which they will still do anyway...... regards worgeordie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 Listen to Minister Anucha, he has a special relationship with corruption... 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: The words "fighting a losing battle"come to mind. I hope they realise that corruption starts at the very top ! Sadly you are correct. I have been hearing the same mantra for 20 years, each year with the same message and what do you get. Same same. You will not see real change until the root of corruption is seen in Thai society as evil and counterproductive. It is not or nowhere near. Edited September 12, 2020 by Laughing Gravy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: BANGKOK (NNT) - A Minister at the Office of the Prime Minister says good governance must be upheld to prevent corruption, adding that civil servants are at the heart of the anti-corruption process. Delete "anti" you might be onto something ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 you think no one at the top of immigration knows about crooked IO taking bribes from agents ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rkidlad Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 You allowed that repulsive toad off with huge corruption when he was caught bang to rights. Don’t talk to the Thai people about fighting corruption, you hypocritical deplorable. As one friend said to me, “they have prosecuted some people for corruption. That’s better than nothing”. And as I told him, that’s called selective justice. And selective justice is no justice at all. A concept he, and so many others, can’t understand. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Orton Rd said: They could do worse than start with those immigration officers accepting bribes to 'legally' overlook money in the bank requirements for extensions ???? For many ex-pats, I hope not. That is how I continued living in Thailand for the past 6 years before moving to Cambodia, courtesy of a very "considerate" Immigration Office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vangrop Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Wherever corruption, civil servants are at the origin. If you want to a HAVE kosher society, pay them decently, enforce anti-corruption laws, fire the sinners, make examples. In my civilized democratic western country, if you try to bribe one, the latter himself will report you to justice. Of course there always will be exceptions. But I am afraid that currently it is just wishfull thinking in this country, UTOPIA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 8 hours ago, rooster59 said: He proposed an idea to give incentives to civil servants as a token of appreciation for their work, jesus h christ replace one with another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Burma Bill said: For many ex-pats, I hope not. That is how I continued living in Thailand for the past 6 years before moving to Cambodia, courtesy of a very "considerate" Immigration Office. Try the corrupt land depts too, they want a cut off any condo sales to make the process run smoothly, Hua Hin and Bkk near Seacon Square and probably many others too 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 When I stopped choking from the severe laughter episode that happened when I read the OP, I thought, "why not send that crack team that looked for prostitution in Pattaya to look for corruption?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oompie69 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 3 hours ago, hotchilli said: Delete "anti" you might be onto something ! Yep. Ante-corruption might also work. Have to buy for your position before being able to start "earning". fore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 9 hours ago, rooster59 said: civil servants are at the heart of the anti-corruption process. Surely he means "civil servants are at the heart of corruption"?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereman Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Now I wet myself. Good Lord. They know no shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Saucage Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 7 hours ago, klauskunkel said: Listen to Minister Anucha, he has a special relationship with corruption... As higher in the Sakdina pyramid corruption happens, as less it is corruption anymore, and as more it becomes highly ethical support of the "good people". And as higher the bribes, as more ethical and laudable it becomes. TIT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, rooster59 said: In his remarks, Minister Anucha emphasized the role played by civil servants at all government agencies in the prevention of corruption, urging them to uphold good governance and to refrain from involving themselves in any corruption, even when an illicit offer is made. Is corruption not the sole purpose that civil servants and politicians get involved and buy their way in, buy their promotions or through nepotism or connections knowing full well the investment will be returned, in govt and their agencies in the first place? Don the uniform and share in the spoils, Thailand would cease to operate without the trough! Good luck with that one, Kh Anucha, YOU ARE DREAMING! Edited September 12, 2020 by PatOngo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 11 hours ago, vangrop said: Wherever corruption, civil servants are at the origin. If you want to a HAVE kosher society, pay them decently, enforce anti-corruption laws, fire the sinners, make examples. In my civilized democratic western country, if you try to bribe one, the latter himself will report you to justice. Of course there always will be exceptions. But I am afraid that currently it is just wishfull thinking in this country, UTOPIA. Here the exception is one that doesn't. Corruption is at every level in society, having to deal with a civil servant you can almost guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, rooster59 said: He proposed an idea to give incentives to civil servants as a token of appreciation for their work, and to discourage them from participating in corruption. This will legalise their corruption. Edited September 12, 2020 by FarFlungFalang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Disgusting people! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: Here the exception is one that doesn't. Corruption is at every level in society, having to deal with a civil servant you can almost guarantee it. You can smell it also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 It's just a way of life, having lived here for 25 years and I have bought and sold a few properties and been involved with business I could write some stories on here but Im not, I have always said if you want to try and cut out corruption then start at the airport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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