Turkey says U.S. needs to return to neutral stance on Cyprus

[Opl]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Hostage how? And if possible, without hyperbole.

 

1/ Erdogan promotes extreme Turkish Nationalism (Grey Wolves), the anti-Greek military posturing is supposed to mobilize the chauvinistic reflexes of the Turks , Erdogan supports Muslim Brotherhood

2/ One should not underestimate Turkey that has been at the center of the fighting for years, Libya, Iraq, Syria , including enrolling former Daesh fighters

3/ Erdogan has all the cards in his game: mass, proximity, its diasporas, the non-existence of Europe, the cynicism of Trump and Putin

 

4/ Germany is home to the largest diaspora of Turkish nationals, with 2/3 of them voting for Erdogan. Germany has the second-largest Muslim population in Western Europe after France, nearly 4.7 million Muslims, 3 million are of Turkish origin, Germany, like France, has its foreign policy impacted by strong ethnic and religious minorities who reside on its soil.  

5/ Do I have to mention how Merkel gave leverage to Erdogan over Europe with the migrants crisis?

6/ Germany defends its economy - Turkey's partnership  is part of it - What is Greece in regards? 

[Morch]

26 minutes ago, Opl said:

 

1/ Erdogan promotes extreme Turkish Nationalism (Grey Wolves), the anti-Greek military posturing is supposed to mobilize the chauvinistic reflexes of the Turks , Erdogan supports Muslim Brotherhood

2/ One should not underestimate Turkey that has been at the center of the fighting for years, Libya, Iraq, Syria , including enrolling former Daesh fighters

3/ Erdogan has all the cards in his game: mass, proximity, its diasporas, the non-existence of Europe, the cynicism of Trump and Putin

 

4/ Germany is home to the largest diaspora of Turkish nationals, with 2/3 of them voting for Erdogan. Germany has the second-largest Muslim population in Western Europe after France, nearly 4.7 million Muslims, 3 million are of Turkish origin, Germany, like France, has its foreign policy impacted by strong ethnic and religious minorities who reside on its soil.  

5/ Do I have to mention how Merkel gave leverage to Erdogan over Europe with the migrants crisis?

6/ Germany defends its economy - Turkey's partnership  is part of it - What is Greece in regards? 

 

You original post was about Germany being held hostage. So while the parts of your post having to with Greece might bear indirect relevance, they are quite the same thing.

 

Turkish Diaspora in Germany - what percent of the total population does it represent? Do all of them have voting rights in Germany as well? How is the support for Erdogan translated when voting on things German? In what demonstrable way is Germany's foreign policy impacted by minorities

 

Leverage - as far as I recall, it's a two-way street. Erdogan gets economic/financial support in return for keeping a lead on the refugee situation. Presumably, if he reneges on the deal, the support will reviewed.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

When Turkey removes it's occupation of Cyprus, the US may feel able to be neutral.

[Opl]

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

You original post was about Germany being held hostage. So while the parts of your post having to with Greece might bear indirect relevance, they are quite the same thing.

 

Turkish Diaspora in Germany - what percent of the total population does it represent? Do all of them have voting rights in Germany as well? How is the support for Erdogan translated when voting on things German? In what demonstrable way is Germany's foreign policy impacted by minorities

 

Leverage - as far as I recall, it's a two-way street. Erdogan gets economic/financial support in return for keeping a lead on the refugee situation. Presumably, if he reneges on the deal, the support will reviewed.

 

 

4 responds to 1, 5 to 2, and 6 to 3 , and it goes also  6-1, 5-1, etc..    

if you're interested in Turkey's 2018 elections data, use google, I didn't want to post too long, just replied to your request: Erdogan's blackmailing tactics at Europe's borders work within too. 

If you know what Political Islam Activism in Europe refers to, you have the answer. 

[Morch]

21 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

When Turkey removes it's occupation of Cyprus, the US may feel able to be neutral.

 

Turkey's occupation of Northern Cyprus been a fact for over 40 years now. During this time the USA did not always have issues with Turkey, sometimes quite the opposite. The Cyprus situation is not, by itself, much of a thing when it comes to international diplomacy and politics. It usually comes up in conjunction when some other issue makes headlines.

 

I kinda doubt the USA would have a strong position on this if things weren't already a bit off with Turkey, and more importantly, if American companies weren't involved in the gas exploration efforts. Much easier dealing with and getting better terms from Cyprus, compared to Turkey.