Looking for a job in Marketing and Communication ! ***URGENT***

[breezy99]

Hello everyone ????, 

I desperately need help! I come from France, I'm 21years old and freshly graduated from a Bachelor in International Management. I’m not able to go back to France because of a lack of money and several family problems, my only and best option is to stay in Bangkok. It don't bother me because I literally fell in love with the Thai culture.

 

I'm therefore looking for a full-time job in marketing, communication, events, or even social media because these are the things that I am passionate about. I only did a few internships, especially one in communication and marketing, which made me want to evolve in these fields. My goal is to start my master's degree at Chulalongkorn University next year on a work-study basis. I have a tourist visa, so I am looking for a company that could help me with the visa process and gets a work permit to work legally in Thailand.

 

However, my motivation, my determination, my desire to learn, and my ambition are not enough. After more than 2 months of research and a huge amount of CVs sent, companies tell me that I don’t have enough experience (which I totally understand but how can I gain experience if no one gives me a chance to prove what I can do?????) or they just don't answer. As a foreigner, I can stay until September 26th in the kingdom, so I need a solution as soon as possible. I will not let my "lack of experience" hold me back from my ambition so any help, information if you have contacts, if you know of companies or people who are likely to help me, don’t hesitate! I would really appreciate any help I can get.

[blackcab]

I'm sorry, but even if you were offered a job tomorrow and the company filed your application to convert your tourist visa into a Non Immigrant B visa, there is not enough time left to complete this process before you have to leave the country on September 26th.

 

In addition, your tourist visa has expired and you are now staying in Thailand on an amnesty. Immigration will not covert your amnesty status to a Non B visa. Instead, immigration will require you to leave the country and re-enter Thailand with the correct class of visa.

 

If you want to stay in Thailand your only hope would be if your embassy is issuing a letter that allows you to extend your stay for a 30 day period. Check with your embassy. You have just enough time to get the letter and get a 30 day extension.

 

That being said, you will still be in the same situation and you will not be able to convert to a Non B visa, which means you will not be able to be legally employed.

 

Technical issues aside, it is also extremely unlikely you will find a job here at your age. Firstly, do you speak business level Thai? Secondly, what skills do you have to offer that a Thai person would not have? A foreigner is an expensive and time consuming proposition to hire, and there is little chance of being hired if a Thai person can do the job.

 

This is why you tend to find that expats employed in Thailand are normally 40+ with a lot of proven work history and success behind them. They are hired for their specialist management or high level technical expertise.

 

Foreigners are not hired for junior and mid level staff positions. It would not be at all easy to get you a work permit, and furthermore you would have to be paid a minimum of 50,000 baht per month, which could be double what a Thai employee would cost. A business simply will not do that.

[breezy99]

2 minutes ago, blackcab said:

I'm sorry, but even if you were offered a job tomorrow and the company filed your application to convert your tourist visa into a Non Immigrant B visa, there is not enough time left to complete this process before you have to leave the country on September 26th.

 

In addition, your tourist visa has expired and you are now staying in Thailand on an amnesty. Immigration will not covert your amnesty status to a Non B visa. Instead, immigration will require you to leave the country and re-enter Thailand with the correct class of visa.

 

If your want to stay in Thailand your only hope would be if your embassy is issuing a letter that allows you to extend your stay for a 30 day period. Check with your embassy. You have just enough time to get the letter and get a 30 day extension.

 

That being said, you will still be in the same situation and you will not be able to convert to a Non B visa, which means you will not be able to be legally employed.

 

Technical issues aside, it is also extremely unlikely you will find a job here at your age. Firstly, do you speak business level Thai? Secondly, what skills do you have to offer that a Thai person would not have? A foreigner is an expensive and time consuming proposition to hire, and there is little chance of that happening if a Thai person can do the job.

 

This is why you tend to find that expats employed in Thailand are normally 40+ with a lot of proven work history and success behind them. They are hired for their specialist management or high level technical expertise.

 

Foreigners are not hired for junior and mid level staff positions. It would not be at all easy to get you a work permit, and furthermore you would have to be paid a minimum of 50,000 baht per month, which could be double what a Thai employee would cost. A business simply will not do that.

Thank you for your all this information, especially for the visa procedure!
I'm fully aware of all these details about hiring foreigners, the fact of being such a young foreigner in Thailand and finding a full-time job is difficult, almost impossible. But I want to persevere, take my chances, and have all the help I can get.

[blackcab]

14 minutes ago, Rinafrd said:

But I want to persevere, take my chances, and have all the help I can get.

 

Do you understand that no company can legally employ you for as long as you stay in Thailand? You cannot get the correct visa and you cannot get a work permit.

 

You are unemployable. Even if you receive a job offer in the next 7 days before you have to leave the country, you will still have to leave the country anyway to get a Non B visa issued at an embassy or consulate. You will then have to get permission to return to Thailand and go through the Alternative State Quarantine process.

 

I admire your optimism and your positive attitude, and I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I'm telling you straight because that's the way it is.

 

Whether you get a job or not, you will have to leave Thailand.

[breezy99]

37 minutes ago, blackcab said:

 

Do you understand that no company can legally employ you for as long as you stay in Thailand? You cannot get the correct visa and you cannot get a work permit.

 

You are unemployable. Even if you receive a job offer in the next 7 days before you have to leave the country, you will still have to leave the country anyway to get a Non B visa issued at an embassy or consulate. You will then have to get permission to return to Thailand and go through the Alternative State Quarantine process.

 

I admire your optimism and your positive attitude, and I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I'm telling you straight because that's the way it is.

 

It’s totally fine. ???? I have already been through the procedure to leave Thailand to re-enter with the correct visa so I'm aware of that. 

Finding a company that will "accept" to hire me is the first step, the second is to go through the visa process. Thanks for all the information again, I really appreciate it.

[blackcab]

3 minutes ago, Rinafrd said:

Finding a company that will "accept" to hire me is the first step...

 

Keep us updated with your job search. I'm sure it will be helpful to others in a similar situation.

[Nout]

1 hour ago, Rinafrd said:

I don't want a business to hire me because “I need help”. I simply want to grow professionally in a country where I feel like home. I'm asking for help on this forum because I just don't have enough contact here in Thailand. I don't need any advice on how to manage my life. Thank you.

Do you speak read and write Thai? If not you are a liability.

[breezy99]

2 minutes ago, Nout said:

Do you speak read and write Thai? If not you are a liability.

Unfortunately, I don't. Not speaking enough, and not writing or reading Thai at all. Yes, it is a huge disadvantage for me.

[Poet]

1 hour ago, Rinafrd said:

I'm therefore looking for a full-time job in marketing, communication, events, or even social media because these are the things that I am passionate about.

 

1 hour ago, blackcab said:

Firstly, do you speak business level Thai? Secondly, what skills do you have to offer that a Thai person would not have?

For the fields he is interested in, there are plenty of Thai companies who would deem English language ability more important than Thai. They already have an oversupply of people who can manage Thai language tasks, but sometimes also need to address a non-Thai market. Finding a junior with good English would be an inexpensive way to do that. Someone fluent in both English and Thai would be a lot more expensive.

Unfortunately, @Rinafrd, your English contains too many mistakes for a communications or marketing role. If you intend to communicate professionally in the English language, you need to improve that because your mistakes will distract from whatever message you are trying to convey.

In particular, when searching for a job, get a native English speaker, preferably someone who reads a lot, to correct your resume, introduction letters, and posts such as your original post here. You never know when a potential employer might come across your posts, many of us who run companies are always looking out for competent people, but your mistakes immediately rule you out. In this case, you are revealing not only that your written English is poor but, also, that you are not detailed-oriented enough to have a friend proofread it or to even just use a grammar checker. That is probably what companies mean when they say that you "don't have enough experience" or simply don't reply.

It might be a good idea to contact Thai companies who sell to French-speaking businesses or consumers.

 

[breezy99]

21 minutes ago, Poet said:

 

For the fields he is interested in, there are plenty of Thai companies who would deem English language ability more important than Thai. They already have an oversupply of people who can manage Thai language tasks, but sometimes also need to address a non-Thai market. Finding a junior with good English would be an inexpensive way to do that. Someone fluent in both English and Thai would be a lot more expensive.

Unfortunately, @Rinafrd, your English contains too many mistakes for a communications or marketing role. If you intend to communicate professionally in the English language, you need to improve that because your mistakes will distract from whatever message you are trying to convey.

In particular, when searching for a job, get a native English speaker, preferably someone who reads a lot, to correct your resume, introduction letters, and posts such as your original post here. You never know when a potential employer might come across your posts, many of us who run companies are always looking out for competent people, but your mistakes immediately rule you out. In this case, you are revealing not only that your written English is poor but, also, that you are not detailed-oriented enough to have a friend proofread it or to even just use a grammar checker. That is probably what companies mean when they say that you "don't have enough experience" or simply don't reply.

It might be a good idea to contact Thai companies who sell to French-speaking businesses or consumers.

 

My english (both speaking and writing) is definitely not perfect, but I'm willing to improve (and yes, I use a grammar checker ????).  Due to my experience, I don’t expect a position with a lot of responsibilities. As a first "real work experience" it will be a chance for me to improve my skills, my English and Thai.  I can't gain experience if no one gives me a chance.

Thanks for your advices that I will follow !

Edited September 17, 2020 by Rinafrd

[Poet]

22 minutes ago, Rinafrd said:

(and yes, I use a grammar checker ????)

Use it even for these posts. Job offers can come from the places you least expect.

Good luck.
 

[balo]

2 hours ago, Rinafrd said:

the fact of being such a young foreigner in Thailand and finding a full-time job is difficult, almost impossible.

You're only option is to become an English teacher. If you're lucky you will find a school that do not care about degrees, they only want to see a farang face, .   

Edited September 17, 2020 by balo

[timendres]

As opposed to focusing on Thai companies, which others have pointed out will be difficult to get into, you might want focus on foreign owned companies. I know of several tech companies that hire a significant number of foreign employees. Also look into companies that do business (like import/export) with France, since you have a definite skillset and network to offer them.

[breezy99]

4 hours ago, timendres said:

As opposed to focusing on Thai companies, which others have pointed out will be difficult to get into, you might want focus on foreign owned companies. I know of several tech companies that hire a significant number of foreign employees. Also look into companies that do business (like import/export) with France, since you have a definite skillset and network to offer them.

Thank you so much!!!