PM: Quick Recovery Necessary after COVID

[surfinglife]

20 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

After COVID.

That might be a year or more. 

More = a long long time, possibly never.

[tomauasia]

Yes with a civilian government. But you are not capable due to racism 

[zzaa09]

3 hours ago, tomauasia said:

Yes with a civilian government. But you are not capable due to racism 

As there's truly little between the type of governments that one wishes to attain.....or dream about.

Edited September 22, 2020 by zzaa09

[Cali farong]

There will be a speedy recovery in October.  The charter planes are lined up to bring all the super rich to LOS. Just ask Prayut

[puchooay]

9 hours ago, Tony125 said:

would be scared silly if I had to fly back.

That puts in the same boat as the Thai government. Scared silly. Scared of something that has been blown out proportion by media and social media.

 

I hear people in UK saying the same yet only 1% of deaths are attributed to Covid19. 

 

[The Theory]

Tourists with bags of cash waiting at the border to get in. 

[CGW]

10 hours ago, surfinglife said:

More = a long long time, possibly never.

Indeed the longer "they" can keep the masses believing a lockdown is necessary? Probably indefinite? ???? 

 

In the UK there are 69 cases/100,000 people compared to 28/100,000 in Sweden The infection rate in France is almost 7 times higher than in Sweden and the virus is 10 times more prevalent in Spain, both countries that implemented strict lockdowns, maybe they got it wrong? 

Where are all the Sweden critics now? Why is this Never in the news?

 

So many - who lets be honest - deserve to be "locked down" still believe that they have been saved* from the not-so-deadly virus by creating the biggest mental health and poverty crisis in history, by corrupted politicians, eyes open! 

[Soikhaonoiken]

On 9/21/2020 at 12:20 PM, tingtongfarang said:

Quick Recovery Necessary

Not going to happen with you lot in control

He's only dreaming, it's never going to be a quick recovery, this mob has destroyed the economy... 

[DB58]

On 9/21/2020 at 5:33 AM, Grumpy John said:

Every time he opens his mouth I get a mental picture of Forrest Gump in my head! 

Hey! I like Forest!

[Virt]

On 9/21/2020 at 1:39 PM, connda said:

There will never be an "after Covid." 

That might be correct if you look at the Corona family. Is there 6 or 7 right now that circulates where SARS and MERS are the rare guests, but the others are the ones visiting us frequently and covid 19 looks like it's joining those. If so we might end up treating it like regular flu, but with various vaccines like we have now. 

 

So a quick recovery could take longer than we think. 

The winter period Europe soon is entering will be interesting to follow especially for those countries that are used to our tourist money. 

[uncle_tom]

Worth looking at what he actually said rather than jumping to conclusions.

 

Did he mention tourism? Yes - he referred to 'quality tourism'

 

The choice of words is significant. The Thais have for a long time had a name for back packers with little spending money - it translates as: 'bird <deleted> tourists' In recent years they've used the same term to describe the Chinese hordes who arrive in managed groups, wander around - but don't buy anything.

 

So who is he referring to when he spoke of 'quality tourists' ? The measures recently announced, with all their bells and whistles, seem aimed at those retiring to the LoS - residents from overseas - rather than tourists - but that might be what he had in mind.

 

Or is he thinking about the middle aged, relatively affluent european visitors who arrive with plenty of spending money and rarely cause any trouble?

 

Of course, like many leaders of many countries at the moment, he talks of 'post Covid' as though it's about to go away - which everyone now knows isn't going to happen. But the economic imperative to get to a 'post Covid' position is compelling.

 

I predict that as soon as someone comes up with something that vaguely resembles a vaccine and doesn't actually kill people, countries like the LoS won't wait to see whether it works or not, but will open their doors to anyone who has had a jab and has a well filled wallet..

[uncle_tom]

1 hour ago, Virt said:

That might be correct if you look at the Corona family. Is there 6 or 7 right now that circulates where SARS and MERS are the rare guests, but the others are the ones visiting us frequently and covid 19 looks like it's joining those. If so we might end up treating it like regular flu, but with various vaccines like we have now. 

 

So a quick recovery could take longer than we think. 

The winter period Europe soon is entering will be interesting to follow especially for those countries that are used to our tourist money. 

A significant detail that I'm watching is that whilst it is being observed that most people who have had Covid are seeing a rapid attenuation of antibodies, there are so far no certain cases of someone having caught the bug twice.

 

If this means that our memory T cells are effective at preventing a second infection, the 'herd immunity' approach will get a huge boost.

[Gjk7777]

44 minutes ago, uncle_tom said:

Worth looking at what he actually said rather than jumping to conclusions.

 

Did he mention tourism? Yes - he referred to 'quality tourism'

 

The choice of words is significant. The Thais have for a long time had a name for back packers with little spending money - it translates as: 'bird <deleted> tourists' In recent years they've used the same term to describe the Chinese hordes who arrive in managed groups, wander around - but don't buy anything.

 

So who is he referring to when he spoke of 'quality tourists' ? The measures recently announced, with all their bells and whistles, seem aimed at those retiring to the LoS - residents from overseas - rather than tourists - but that might be what he had in mind.

 

Or is he thinking about the middle aged, relatively affluent european visitors who arrive with plenty of spending money and rarely cause any trouble?

 

Of course, like many leaders of many countries at the moment, he talks of 'post Covid' as though it's about to go away - which everyone now knows isn't going to happen. But the economic imperative to get to a 'post Covid' position is compelling.

 

I predict that as soon as someone comes up with something that vaguely resembles a vaccine and doesn't actually kill people, countries like the LoS won't wait to see whether it works or not, but will open their doors to anyone who has had a jab and has a well filled wallet..

1200 Rich clean Tourists, or 10,000 Dirty Backpackers, I can see his logic...

[uncle_tom]

41 minutes ago, Gjk7777 said:

1200 Rich clean Tourists, or 10,000 Dirty Backpackers, I can see his logic...

1200 a month - 15,000 p.a. is just 0.05% of the usual tourist tally - it doesn't register as tourism in the normal sense. I don't know how many people fly to Thailand in private jets each year - but wonder whether that's where they got that number from..

[Gjk7777]

44 minutes ago, uncle_tom said:

1200 a month - 15,000 p.a. is just 0.05% of the usual tourist tally - it doesn't register as tourism in the normal sense. I don't know how many people fly to Thailand in private jets each year - but wonder whether that's where they got that number from..

Don't forget they will be filtered into Government chosen over priced Hotels, and Covid Tests no doubt, I have seen figures like 300,000 Baht for the 14 days!

I am sure a few back handers are being paid! 

[daveAustin]

On 9/21/2020 at 12:39 PM, connda said:

There will never be an "after Covid." 

For sure. That ship has sailed, and the next one from China will be even worse.

 

On 9/21/2020 at 4:35 PM, ukrules said:

Little prediction here : Thailands entry restrictions will last for years. There is no end in sight.

 

They're so scared of this that they will likely be one of the last countries to open up along with Australia, New Zealand and China.

And the kicker for them is when they eventually do open up, the SUPPOSED lack of COVID within the populace will be a massive hindrance since they will have to play 'catch up' with regards to outbreak-lockdown-outbreak-lockdown and the inevitable realization that - aside from locking the state down forever - 'sheet, we will just have to live with this thing' and downgrade it to being a part of life.  

[daveAustin]

2 hours ago, uncle_tom said:

A significant detail that I'm watching is that whilst it is being observed that most people who have had Covid are seeing a rapid attenuation of antibodies, there are so far no certain cases of someone having caught the bug twice.

 

If this means that our memory T cells are effective at preventing a second infection, the 'herd immunity' approach will get a huge boost.

Apparently testing in the UK is overly sensitive and throwing up extra figures from folk who have been there and got the t-shirt.

[Gjk7777]

16 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

For sure. That ship has sailed, and the next one from China will be even worse.

 

And the kicker for them is when they eventually do open up, the SUPPOSED lack of COVID within the populace will be a massive hindrance since they will have to play 'catch up' with regards to outbreak-lockdown-outbreak-lockdown and the inevitable realization that - aside from locking the state down forever - 'sheet, we will just have to live with this thing' and downgrade it to being a part of life.  

Very true..

[Gjk7777]

16 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Apparently testing in the UK is overly sensitive and throwing up extra figures from folk who have been there and got the t-shirt.

 A friend of mine, her Mother died, she had days to live with Lung cancer, contracted Covid -19, and on the death Certificate it said "Death Covid 19"...The figures are all wrong in this case! 

[talahtnut]

On 9/21/2020 at 12:04 PM, snoop1130 said:

He said the pandemic caused severe economic and social recessions and all parties must join forces to speed up the recovery.

Brilliant speech by Cup O Cha, Thais must rely on 1200 visas for rich bods,

and the new abnormal. Wih luck he might run away and join the circus, has

the clowns outfit already.

[torturedsole]

On 9/21/2020 at 12:04 PM, snoop1130 said:

... and stressed that national recovery must be accelerated after the coronavirus disease 2019 crisis.

It's the word 'after' that throws a spanner in works.  After what and when exactly?  

 

We're now approaching Covid-20 time for all intents and purposes so acceleration of the Thai national recovery can only be achieved once 'after' is defined as a specific point in time. At present, it's moving target so little point in fantasising about notional dates and predictions.  

[mike787]

Open the borders, let all tourists to flood in with cash, allow for automatic 6 month visas.  Come on man!

[ukrules]

4 hours ago, daveAustin said:

nd the kicker for them is when they eventually do open up, the SUPPOSED lack of COVID within the populace will be a massive hindrance since they will have to play 'catch up' with regards to outbreak-lockdown-outbreak-lockdown and the inevitable realization that - aside from locking the state down forever - 'sheet, we will just have to live with this thing' and downgrade it to being a part of life.

They're waiting for a vaccine, that's the way out of it for Thailand.