Fear and confusion in Thailand’s tourism industry as near-bankrupt hotels decline foreign tourists

[lkv]

2 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Well go bankrupt then.

They will go bankrupt anyway, whether they accept foreign tourists or not.

 

According to TAT, https://www.tatnews.org/2020/09/thai-cabinet-approves-special-tourist-visa-for-long-staying-visitors/

 

The policy is expected to become effective after the official announcement and will be available until 30 September, 2021

 

So better just shut down today, as @RichardColeman was saying, and minimize the losses.

 

[Peter Denis]

4 hours ago, aldriglikvid said:

It is correct that Europe currently is experiencing a "second wave", however - keep in mind that almost all head of states have said, quite clearly, that another shut down is not on the table.

Europe experiencing a 'second wave' is scaremonger talk.

It is only based on the number of cases that tested positive.  That this number is high should not be surprising knowing that much more testing is being conducted than during the first wave.

Also with the number of 'false positives' due to test inaccuracy, and not making any distinction between those tested positive exhibiting NO symptoms and those with symptoms resulting in hospitalization, the high number of cases is simply misleading.

You only need to Google 'covid-19 cases' which will open an interactive graph on which you can select the country, and then toggle between CASES and DEATHS.  An illuminating experience which takes less than 2 minutes to debunk the false narrative of a devastating 2nd wave.

 

Attached below the two screenshots for France from that interactive graph.

 

[johng]

 Yes thanks  @Peter Denis for pointing  this out , lots of cases because of lots of testing   but the death rate tells another story.

[bornredi]

good bye Thailand

your political leaders do not understand economics, you can not turn off and on a economy like a light bulb

[Airalee]

2 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

Europe experiencing a 'second wave' is scaremonger talk.

It is only based on the number of cases that tested positive.  That this number is high should not be surprising knowing that much more testing is being conducted than during the first wave.

Also with the number of 'false positives' due to test inaccuracy, and not making any distinction between those tested positive exhibiting NO symptoms and those with symptoms resulting in hospitalization, the high number of cases is simply misleading.

You only need to Google 'covid-19 cases' which will open an interactive graph on which you can select the country, and then toggle between CASES and DEATHS.  An illuminating experience which takes less than 2 minutes to debunk the false narrative of a devastating 2nd wave.

 

Attached below the two screenshots for France from that interactive graph.

 

And for every one of those new deaths, it would be interesting to see the actual data regarding...

 

1. Age

2. Pre-Existing conditions
3. BMI

4. Lifestyle habits including diet, exercise, alcohol/smoking/drug use

 

I suspect that those who advocate so strongly for continued lockdown/border closure here in Thailand are afraid (and understandably so) due to one or more of the above points.

[CheelBeel]

On 9/22/2020 at 8:06 AM, GeorgeCross said:

 

currently 968,905 (dead) people beg to differ.

 

and thats with lockdowns, nobody knows just how huge that number could have been by now if we had left deniers like yourself in charge.

 

 

hmmm, Sweden comes to mind... ???

[from the home of CC]

reading some of these posts concerning the uk, it's no wonder they're in the mess they are..

[Peter Denis]

3 hours ago, CheelBeel said:

hmmm, Sweden comes to mind... ???

@GeorgeCross

Interesting Sweden statistics

 

[TheFreqFlyer]

22 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I think you are wrong - six months for those with no saving I will agree with. The rest with savings and managing to strive to get to the high season will be destroyed by March 2021 with not tourism. So, 6 months for those not prepared and 12 months for those that tried.

 

All I see is Thais either poor, destitute or ignoring the fact their country is about to dramatically slide down the Asian pecking order

I don't think it's a competition, but Indonesia, the Philippines and now Myanmar are under very tough new lockdowns that will destroy their economies and could well impact them more negatively than Thailand once all of this is over. That is, assuming Thailand's economy starts improving from here on, as a BP article suggested today, with a slight upward revision in the expected GDP loss, which, although minor, is at least a small sign things could start improving a little from here. 

 

Also, Cambodia and Myanmar are doing it very tough - no wonder migrants from these countries continue to risk it and enter Thailand illegally...because there are no jobs in their country. 

 

Thailand is doing it tough mainly due to relying way too much on tourism. If that can be rectified, then similar future shocks can be lessened. 

[ChakaKhan]

On 9/22/2020 at 1:02 AM, BritManToo said:

Back in the good old days, women would have been handing guys like you a white feather.

Maybe a good idea for beer promo at T Bar????    Hello Teerak..Welcome back..I tickle you now...