26 minutes ago, riclag said:

I never heard of this group until biden mentioned it!

The last 4 months I have been preoccupied on other groups deeds that the  media presented!

I suspect that’s because of the ‘media’ you choose to get your news.

 

 

20 minutes ago, Yinn said:

So many loons. Many type. 

Amazing Thailand.

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54 minutes ago, Emdog said:

I'm a liberal and condemn antifa more than proud boys and perhaps KKK. Those ignorant punks have

served to make protests, BLM delegitimized in eyes of general public. Doesn't take lots of these usually young, usually white suburban dolts to shift focus and give those opposed to dealing with issues of race and justice and out.

Antifa couldn't be more in service of white racists if they were on the payroll of KKK

There is that line where good intentions become bad deeds and it is frustrating to the left cause.

I think a fair proportion of the violence and looting isn't a particular group or affiliation but just opportunistic youths out to cause some havoc or steal a pair of the latest Nikes. Fox News would have it that any bad outcome is the Antifa boogeyman and Antifa, and other lefties, will be the puppeteer to Joe Biden's puppet and destroy the suburbs.

There is a whole subculture in the US of this kind of stuff.  The groups with names are one thing, but a lot of these guys read the junk on the net (there used to be newsletters and mailing lists) and "self-recruit," just like with young fellows around the world who say they're part of ISIS.  No difference.

Look up:

Charleston church shooting

Look up Oklahoma City bombing.

(I don't want to post names)

 

 

1 minute ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I think a fair proportion of the violence and looting isn't a particular group or affiliation but just opportunistic youths out to cause some havoc or steal a pair of the latest Nikes

A large proportion is this. I remember watching live the first wave of riots in Minneapolis. Gangs of black youths targetting a Nike store and a Rayban store. Just local disaffected youths. No Antifa, no organisation, just opportunist thieves and troublemakers.

Trump also has "The Biker's" ........ according to him.

regards Worgeordie

Just now, worgeordie said:

Trump also has "The Biker's" ........ according to him.

regards Worgeordie

Another group of racist white supremacists.

The simple answer and probably the action both parties will take is to use the 25th amendment to oust Trump after he looses the election and before he can stir up the white supremacy groups. The leaders of the Republican party have already stated there will be a peaceful and orderly transfer of power.From the final result announcement until the 20 January 2021 Trump will do all he can to wreck the country. He has no loyalty or love for the USA only for himself and his selfish own gain.

11 minutes ago, Paul Henry said:

The simple answer and probably the action both parties will take is to use the 25th amendment to oust Trump after he looses the election and before he can stir up the white supremacy groups. The leaders of the Republican party have already stated there will be a peaceful and orderly transfer of power.From the final result announcement until the 20 January 2021 Trump will do all he can to wreck the country. He has no loyalty or love for the USA only for himself and his selfish own gain.

I don’t know it might just be easier to stop following his orders paying his bills he will probably just wander away lol more likely he will sneak out in the dark of night to hide his shame of beeing the biggest failure of a president in our history 

4 minutes ago, Tug said:

I don’t know it might just be easier to stop following his orders paying his bills he will probably just wander away lol more likely he will sneak out in the dark of night to hide his shame of beeing the biggest failure of a president in our history 

His new crib has already been allocated.....in Sing Sing.

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

So many loons. Many type. 

Just because I type doesn't make me a loon. Although if you study English English rather than American English you'll find that "loon" can be regarded as a badge of honour for us Brits.

 

Happy to be a loon.

3 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

It is anti Marxist. Its leader is a person of color.

Is this the right-wing PC word for fascist now? ???? 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

They describe themselves as a male-only club of "Western chauvinists" who "refuse to apologize for creating the modern world." The group, whose membership is multiracial, has been called out for misogynistic, anti-Muslim and anti-immigration rhetoric by advocates who monitor extremism.

It's hard to pin down what these guys are really about.  Maybe they're just a bunch of lonely guys angry at the world because they can't get laid.  I recall another male-only group that was created because of precisely that.  Their name escapes me.

2 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

I recall another male-only group that was created because of precisely that.  Their name escapes me.

Pet Shop Boys.

36 minutes ago, polpott said:

A large proportion is this. I remember watching live the first wave of riots in Minneapolis. Gangs of black youths targetting a Nike store and a Rayban store. Just local disaffected youths. No Antifa, no organisation, just opportunist thieves and troublemakers.

So you interviewed each participant to establish their absolute reason to be at the location? 

Just now, scorecard said:

So you interviewed each participant to establish their absolute reason to be at the location? 

Many did, including the FBI.

 

 

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1 minute ago, polpott said:

Many did.

Please share some details, i'm rather doubtful that many folks were interviewed in the midst of a major and very serious somewhat violent protest?

Edited October 1, 20205 yr by scorecard

20 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

It's hard to pin down what these guys are really about.  Maybe they're just a bunch of lonely guys angry at the world because they can't get laid.  I recall another male-only group that was created because of precisely that.  Their name escapes me.

"The blend of racism, misogyny, irony, and hipness has its own history, one that most coverage of the alt-right neglects. White nationalists groups have long been refashioning themselves as cutting-edge modernists. And when they do, when they present themselves as intellectuals, artists, techies, and free-speechers, many journalists cover their modern style with a sense of surprise — even though this sort of hipster racism has been around for decades."

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2016/12/2/13814728/alt-right-spencer-irony-racism-punks-skinheads

Edited October 1, 20205 yr by Opl

4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Kind of ironic really. A white supremacy group whose membership is multi-racial. 

Actually they are not completely supremacy nor anti-supremacy, if you get what I mean. Their leadership has some white-supremacists among them and anti-semetic membership too even if they admit folks who are not white. A lot of them come with very fragile male egos and extreme fascist views with very violent tendencies. There is very little that is ironic about these folks.

8 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Please share some details?

https://www.ajc.com/news/fbi-finds-evidence-antifa-involvement-national-unrest/qVI3U9wb8Q6u1QEvVsJ7AJ/

 

"The FBI has found no evidence that the American militant anti-fascist movement Antifa was involved in violence that erupted during national protests over the death of George Floyd."

 

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/09/873278314/no-sign-of-antifa-so-far-in-justice-department-cases-brought-over-unrest

 

"U.S. Attorney General William Barr has repeatedly blamed anti-fascist activists for the violence that has erupted during demonstrations over George Floyd's death, but federal court records show no sign of so-called antifa links so far in cases brought by the Justice Department.

NPR has reviewed court documents of 51 individuals facing federal charges in connection with the unrest. As of Tuesday morning, none is alleged to have links to the antifa movement."

 

"The single instance in which an extremist group is mentioned in court documents is a case against three Nevada men. Federal prosecutors allege the trio belong to the right-wing Boogaloo movement that wants to bring about a civil war. The men have been charged with plotting violence during Las Vegas protests."

 

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/30/george-floyd-protests-riots-violent-outside-agitators-minnesota/5291658002/

 

"Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, without providing specifics, said Saturday he believes 80% of the people now taking part in the overnight rioting are from outside Minnesota.

However, arrest data shows otherwise. The overwhelming majority of people who posted on social media from the precinct fire and those arrested Friday night at the protests in the Twin Cities live in the area, according to USA TODAY's review of police jail records and almost 100,000 tweets." 

Holy sh.. The commander in chief calling a uniform hate group that wear body armor and carry weapons to "Standby" which is a military command to be prepared. A hate group that flies the MAGA flag that responded to that command with this "Well Sir, we're ready" and saw a surge of new recruits. Is this a version of the storm troopers standing by to unleash disorder pending the election outcome. This is absolutely bad for US and democracy. 

I think we are all old enough to realise that there are are extremists on the far Left and Right. These people are really no more than riot mercenaries. When involved with peaceful rallies years ago I had the unfortunate experience of meeting both.

 

Do they have a chapter in Thailand ?

1 minute ago, Deli said:

Do they have a chapter in Thailand ?

Yes, its called "The Government".......allegedly.

FBI Director Christopher Wray told a congressional panel last week that it was white supremacists and anti-government extremists who have been responsible for most of the recent deadly attacks by extremist groups in the US.

 

"It certainly does indicate a higher likelihood of election or post-election violence coming from the far-right," Burghart said. "The Proud Boys are the engine of racist street violence and last night Trump gave a big nitro boost to their cause."

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12369431

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For German citizens is more then funny and concern when foreigners call themselves "Nazis" or when they adapt the ideology. At first the Nazis was a left idea. The word says it. Nationalsozialist. National Socialist. They formend a left wing party. The NSDAP. It's called Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei. National Socialist German Workers' Party. So it was about the German race not only the white race. Now today foreigners try to tell us what the "Nazis" are, left and right wing, even if most of our Grandpas and Grandmothers was involved in the war. It's like when Germans would adapt or use the history from the Vietnam war. It's weird.  And no, the Antifa isn't a group it's an statement an idea, against the radical right in the 30s. By the way the German Nazis disliked Americans and the German Neo-Nazis too. They share their ideology more with the east, like Russia , Poland, ....They calling Coca Cola the occupiers' soda. ???? It's more then concern that most of the German history is used today as a weapon. Nazis, Marxist, and Antifa. Even if people have no clue what it means. Left and right wing.     

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

Trump also has "The Biker's" ........ according to him.

regards Worgeordie

He’s big with ‘grown’ men who like dressing up.

5 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Kind of ironic really. A white supremacy group whose membership is multi-racial. 

Yep, fine example of the BS the media feed the public. If they're prepared to send antifa running they'll do for me

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

He’s big with ‘grown’ men who like dressing up.

Versus the grown men who prefer to act like children