Confusion reigns as STV arrivals now may not land in Thailand this week

[Seeall]

1 hour ago, Jackcwba said:

What’s there to be confused about?

 

people aren’t going to be coming here if you are forced to be locked in your room for 14 days. 
 

The penny will never drop for these cowboys in charge.

 they get paid no problems...

[Eddy Ozark]

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

So now, on top of all the hoops you have to jump through you have the chance of your entire holiday being cancelled because some official changes their mind about letting you come at the last minute.

 

Where do I sign up?

Yes. And that message must be carried far and wide because it is true.

[Eddy Ozark]

This situation cannot go on much longer without massive Thai baht devaluation. If tourism counts for 20 percent of GNP then the devaluation should match that.

[tifino]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

How locals are informed about the arrival of tourists will also be discussed.

 

 - Air Raid Sirens no less... 

 

[miamiman123]

No no no no no Thailand and the people say at no no no no 

Edited October 6, 2020 by miamiman123
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[joecoolfrog]

9 hours ago, Oldie said:

Covid cases are surging at the moment worldwide. The government has to be careful. Nothing wrong with this. 

Infections mean very little , its hospitalisations and deaths that compute. In that respect most European nations , which are being way more economically pro active than Thailand , are not facing Armageddon.

This virus will not be eradicated for a very long time so governments have a stark choice , work with it or just curl up and do nothing except watch ones economy crumble and people starve.

Being careful is sensible , doing nothing is pathetic.

Edited October 6, 2020 by joecoolfrog

[joecoolfrog]

41 minutes ago, Adywhu said:

There are a number of posts I could put this in, but to put things in perspective there were 50k excess deaths in the UK from a particular virulent strain of flu in 2017, more than COVID deaths so far, was there any reaction to that across the world? Also the average age of someone dying in the UK from COVID is 80, the actual average age of death in UK is 81!!

 

I realise it is very lazy to compare COVID to flu, but as in everything in life you have to balance risk against reward/loss and unfortunately this seems to have bypassed the people in charge much to the detriment of their own people.

As somebody in the at risk category , I very much recognise the seriousness of the current pandemic , especially as 20 years ago a virus nearly finished me ( month in hospital , lost 60% of my heart function)

However what you say is spot on , the entire world cannot just freeze in fear , life must go on.

[Oldie]

1 hour ago, jesimps said:

Good to see there's someone on here more senile than me.

I wouldn't be overly optimistic. I am not that far yet that I would try to insult someone here in this forum. 

[Oldie]

18 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Infections mean very little , its hospitalisations and deaths that compute. In that respect most European nations , which are being way more economically pro active than Thailand , are not facing Armageddon.

This virus will not be eradicated for a very long time so governments have a stark choice , work with it or just curl up and do nothing except watch ones economy crumble and people starve.

Being careful is sensible , doing nothing is pathetic.

But we also have to see that most Thais have nothing to do with Corona. They do their jobs in areas that have nothing to do with tourism. The will not be very happy if they get problems because of the tourism industry. 

 

Edited October 6, 2020 by Oldie

[Don Mega]

4 minutes ago, Oldie said:

But we also have to see that most Thais have nothing to do with Corona. They do their jobs in areas that have nothing to do with tourism. The will not be very happy if they get problems because of the tourism industry. 

 

If their jobs are in area's that "have nothing to do with tourism"  why would they get problems "because of the tourism industry". ?

[OumarhindaOunsingha]

3 hours ago, oldhippy said:

just another nutcase

Why a nutcase? Explain, pls.

[Oldie]

1 minute ago, Don Mega said:

If their jobs are in area's that "have nothing to do with tourism"  why would they get problems "because of the tourism industry". ?

Because of the danger that this industry will bring Corona to them. I don't know your home country and what you did there. But if I think of my home country not many people care about tourists and tourism. There are many tourist every year. But most of the people living there have nothing at all to do with them. They are even happy that it is more quiet now. 

[alyx]

5 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

If their jobs are in area's that "have nothing to do with tourism"  why would they get problems "because of the tourism industry". ?

Although I disagree with the post you are reacting too, I guess that one would considered having problems because of the tourism industry if one gets contaminated by an imported virus, e.g a tourist

[bodga]

5 hours ago, 86Tiger said:

an occasional Burger King

I wont  miss  it, tried  one  for the first time yesterday,  rubbery  onions and enough tomato sauce for a swimming  pool

[DJ54]

Sounds like someone got out of the blocks early..... started before go signal. Slide the seven under the wire and if allis good open the gates.

Anything is a guess until it’s reality...

[OumarhindaOunsingha]

2 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

imo anyone looking to be a tourist in a worldwide health crisis has a few screws loose to begin with..

what health crisis?

[ukrules]

2 hours ago, Blumpie said:

It's very possible China told them that they were not allowed to come.  China is not a democracy and they are fairly adamant that they are not going to have people return spreading the virus around.  

The Thai tests on arrival may reveal far too much truth about what's actually going on inside China - they wouldn't want that would they?

 

The resurgence in Vietnam a while back and other countries now having problems - all connected to porous Chinese borders yet far away from the big Chinese cities.

 

Imagine half of the plane tests positive, even if it's remnants of dead virus it will show up in an overly sensitive PCR test and they will be 'treated' (locked up) until the test is negative.

 

China will do anything to hide the truth - either this is why they're not coming or nobody wants to come.

 

Also you don't get back into China without going through another 2 week quarantine as well!

Edited October 6, 2020 by ukrules

[Hoppyone]

10 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Does this sound like a place one would want to go as a tourist? 

Maybe there’s no one on the plane 

[OumarhindaOunsingha]

1 hour ago, Eddy Ozark said:

This situation cannot go on much longer without massive Thai baht devaluation. If tourism counts for 20 percent of GNP then the devaluation should match that.

rather thirty percent. maybe 40

[oldhippy]

2 hours ago, Eddy Ozark said:

This situation cannot go on much longer without massive Thai baht devaluation. If tourism counts for 20 percent of GNP then the devaluation should match that.

Wishfull thinking.

Foreign tourism is by far not 20%.

Other countries suffer too.

 

[Harry Fingerling]

All those all inclusive Chinese holidays are just what the country needs to address the industry.

[phetchy]

Forget "Amazing Thailand".  "Bemusing Thailand" is now a more appropriate meme.  

[phetchy]

And TIA "Have a cunning plan".  Troop tourism!  

 

https://simpleflying.com/thai-airways-777-united-states/

[Robin]

"What penalties do they suffer if they don't stay the whole 90 days ?"

Immediately expelled, sent back to home country and banned from Thailand for 10 years.

 

[Eddy Ozark]

3 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Infections mean very little , its hospitalisations and deaths that compute. In that respect most European nations , which are being way more economically pro active than Thailand , are not facing Armageddon.

This virus will not be eradicated for a very long time so governments have a stark choice , work with it or just curl up and do nothing except watch ones economy crumble and people starve.

Being careful is sensible , doing nothing is pathetic.

Spot on. Doing something (wrong even at times) is better than doing nothing. One has a feeling the powers that be are transfixed, staring at the problems with hands in their pockets. Their only excuse being the situation is unprecedented for past decades.

[Knocker33]

Pi$$ up brewery . Say no more. Kin shambles  as usual 

[charmonman]

Will they get a refund for the 10000 baht paid to the Thai Long Stay company for their “services “? For the $100000 health insurance they had to buy? For the ASQ hotel  and the at least 75 days hotel/condo they’ve had to pay for in advance? For the Covid-19 test they had to take? For the 2000 baht visa fee?

I can’t even get this Thai Long Stay company to respond to me in the first place. Maybe I am lucky. 

I have Thai friends telling me things are starting to get dire on the jobs/economic front.

Maybe I should be happy I’m not in Thailand. If it wasn’t for the 33 years I have spent in and out of Thailand and all the friends I have there I’d say to hell with the place.

[CANSIAM]

Utter Chaos.......

[CANSIAM]

16 minutes ago, charmonman said:

Will they get a refund for the 10000 baht paid to the Thai Long Stay company for their “services “? For the $100000 health insurance they had to buy? For the ASQ hotel  and the at least 75 days hotel/condo they’ve had to pay for in advance? For the Covid-19 test they had to take? For the 2000 baht visa fee?

I can’t even get this Thai Long Stay company to respond to me in the first place. Maybe I am lucky. 

I have Thai friends telling me things are starting to get dire on the jobs/economic front.

Maybe I should be happy I’m not in Thailand. If it wasn’t for the 33 years I have spent in and out of Thailand and all the friends I have there I’d say to hell with the place.

Very true, when tourists get there, there won't be anything to do except swim. As for returning folks with 'ties' their, it will be great to get back to your bank account, flat, car, motorbike, friends, and family after ASQ. 

[joecoolfrog]

3 hours ago, Oldie said:

But we also have to see that most Thais have nothing to do with Corona. They do their jobs in areas that have nothing to do with tourism. The will not be very happy if they get problems because of the tourism industry. 

 

When the GDP of a country falls dramatically it affects all sectors of the population !

To be frank I doubt very much that the welfare of the Thai people is uttermost in your thoughts in any case.

I would guess you are elderly , in the at risk group and financially secure.

Consequently it suits you personally very nicely to be cocooned in a bubble, even if that means others struggle badly.

It's an understandable reaction , but very selfish and in the long run 

Thailand has to open up anyway , virus eliminated or not.