11 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

Seems like you all learnt nothing from 2016.

Bit of a difference now.

In 2016 he was an unknown quantity (except for New Yorkers).

Now he's a known quantity and two thirds of Americans don't like what they see.

11 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

He donates 100% of his paychecks  

And picks up all the money from charging the secret service top dollar for hotel rooms and golf-carts, sending his vice-president to his own hotel in Ireland and US Air-force pilots to his hotel in the middle of nowhere in Scotland. Doubling membership fees at Mar-a-Lago. I could go on and on, but, I'm sure you get the idea.

I too, would give up US$400k to rake in millions.

Edited October 9, 20205 yr by KarenBravo

3 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

Bit of a difference now.

In 2016 he was an unknown quantity (except for New Yorkers).

Now he's a known quantity and two thirds of Americans don't like what they see.

Doesn't matter as long as the ones with the most electoral college votes do like him.

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Doesn't matter as long as the ones with the most electoral college votes do like him.

Yeah.......American democracy at work.

So much for "having the best democracy in the world".

4 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

Yeah.......American democracy at work.

So much for "having the best democracy in the world".

It's not a "democracy", it's a democratic Republic. The president is not elected by popular vote. The founding fathers were wise.

Google can expand on that if interested.

 

Edited October 9, 20205 yr by thaibeachlovers

12 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

Trump landslide Incoming! 

No one but a Trump supporter can take the positives out of a story that has none.

1 hour ago, jvs said:

I think all of you have got it wrong.

The reason Trump will not do a live debate is of course that it will show

how sick he still is.

how long does it take a normal 74 year old to get over covid?

A few days?

He is still weak and will not be able to yell and scream for one hour straight.

It would disappoint and maybe worry his worshipers.

That is if he actually has the virus.

I would not rule out anything with him involved.

But Trump only hires the best viruses.

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not a "democracy", it's a democratic Republic. The president is not elected by popular vote. The founding fathers were wise.

If it's not a democracy, the politicians and the people sure do talk a lot about it.

Do you think that they are all ignorant of the facts?

 

Is the US Democratic Republic like the Peoples Democratic Republic of North Korea? Or, more like the old German Democratic Republic, also known as East Germany?

Edited October 9, 20205 yr by KarenBravo

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Is Trump now totally unhinged? You be the judge. He is panicked. His numbers are dropping daily, and he is facing the greatest humiliation of his lifetime, and he is melting down before our eyes.

The 'roids ain't helping.

28 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Quite right, IMO, to decline to do a remote debate. Who would know if a certain debater was being "assisted" with a teleprompter?

It's very obvious when Trump is reading from a teleprompter; his tone goes flat and he doesn't say crazy stuff.

11 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

Seems like you all learnt nothing from 2016.

And others have learnt nothing in the four years since then.

12 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

Trump landslide Incoming! 

Yep.  When the Trump presidency finally falls off the cliff it's been teetering on.

5 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

If it's not a democracy, the politicians and the people sure do talk a lot about it.

Do you think that they are all ignorant of the facts?

 

Is the US Democratic Republic like the Peoples Democratic Republic of North Korea? Or, more like the old German Democratic Republic, also known as East Germany?

I'm sure that you can look it up on google. All your questions will be answered.

9 hours ago, ukrules said:

Last time was very different, he's an incumbent now....it's proven to be hard to beat a sitting president in any election.

 

It's true but now Trump is sitting on the floor it's different ????

Biden doesnt need a debate. All he needs to do is sit back and watch trump going crazy.

18 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Biden doesnt need a debate. All he needs to do is sit back and watch trump going crazy.

Exactly and 45 knows it which is driving him even crazier. For the sake of the nation Article 25!

10 hours ago, ukrules said:

Sounds familiar, many people said the same thing last time

And they were right as he lost the popular vote by almost 3 million votes and was only saved by the Electoral College.

The Electorial College enables the minority to rule the majority.

I predict it will be gone within twenty years.

13 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

Seems like you all learnt nothing from 2016.

To the contrary. A great many folks have learned quite a bit about the largely unknown reality show star since he became president. 

 

Americans will not let this folly continue. 

In a rare truthful statement from Trump, he said that without the Electoral College, Republicans could never win a presidential election.

25 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

The Electorial College enables the minority to rule the majority.

I predict it will be gone within twenty years.

The countries that still have the EC system are under developed countries. All developed countries have abandoned EC long time ago. 
https://people.howstuffworks.com/10-countries-besides-us-have-electoral-colleges.htm

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

IMO neither "won" and neither "lost", but Pence certainly, IMO, was not "schooled". He wasn't the one getting flustered.

Hurricanes were the same 100 years ago? First of all, there was no satellite info available back then to track storms. Second, there is no data on storm intensity, nor storm speed. 

 

So, what does that mean? It means as usual, Pence was lying. He is slick. So he lies well. However, that talent does not fool us. Fake info. Fake data. Absolute denial of science. That sums up Mini Mike. 

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Pence can't pardon him for state crimes. His motivation to stay in power is what you suggest. To stay out of prison and promote his finances. He has no interest whatsoever in helping the American people. It's well documented that he ran the first time to promote his BRAND and never expected to actually win. He's a total disgrace and it's also obvious that he's heavily compromised by both Russia and Turkey. The enemy of the people is not the press. It's him. 

 

I don't know that it was ever really about the 'brand', I am sure that's now it's about ego.

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Quite right, IMO, to decline to do a remote debate. Who would know if a certain debater was being "assisted" with a teleprompter?

 

Only if you somehow imagine this will not be monitored by the debate committee.

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

The countries that still have the EC system are under developed countries. All developed countries have abandoned EC long time ago. 
https://people.howstuffworks.com/10-countries-besides-us-have-electoral-colleges.htm

 

How do you define 'developed'? Is China 'developed'?

5 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

I don't know that it was ever really about the 'brand', I am sure that's now it's about ego.

Oh come on. Aren't they completely connected? The brand after all is his name. It would be like if Bill Gates had called Microsoft -- Gates -- which actually isn't such a bad name considering Windows.

The White House had the strength to respond until the Trump administration dismantled the pandemic prevention task force, alienated China, refused to learn from China's and Italy's mistakes, spurned the WHO's testing kit development program in order to produce one of our own that didn't work, took their bloody time establishing virus containment protocols, and waited until the absolute last minute to start producing PPE and ventilators, and then in not enough quantity to go around (and also used every dirty trick in the book to sabotage states' efforts to acquire their own supplies on the open market, possibly because our alleged president thought it was funny).

 

This is, by the way, an incomplete accounting of the scale and egregiousness of the current Administration's incompetent handling of the crisis, and they're doing it out of malice – you have to actually make an effort to be this bad at your job. That sums up Don and Mike.

 

And all of this comes on the heels of their biblical sized failure after Hurricane Maria. To label this entire administration inept and incompetent would be too much of an understatement. 

The betting odds are just brutal towards Donald. Biden is smart to dictate the rules of a debate to be virtual. Biden doesn't even need to bother with debating the highly contagious COVID-19 infected Donald.

 

Betting Odds - 2020 U.S. President

 

19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Oh come on. Aren't they completely connected? The brand after all is his name. It would be like if Bill Gates had called Microsoft -- Gates -- which actually isn't such a bad name considering Windows.

 

I don't know that he differentiates the 'brand' from his ego. It's one and the same, IMO. With the ego shifting gears.

18 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I love the idea of enforcing the rules of the debate.  Turn off one guy's microphone during the other guy's 2 minutes.  Then let 'em rip at each other for 2 more minutes before the next question.

 

Of course, you can only do that if they're not within earshot of each other.

 

Precisely why Trump won't participate and he has actually said that the fact that they could mute him means he won't do it.  Doesn't suit his bully boy image when he can't shout down his opposition.