natway09 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 The thing to watch is what you see in the showroom & what you have ordered may be two different things. When I purchesed my Honda I made the sales lady's day by going through the 24 list of options that the demo had,. She was delighted to be able to say "included" to all of them. I changed wheel rims to nicer ones but no extra cost Not much discount for cash as they make a "kickback" on credit sales Safe, happy driving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawairat Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 How much is the roller lid on the back, been thinking of getting one for my Mazda? I originally bought a half electric pop up lid which was a terrible choice last time I asked at the same place for a roller lid he quoted B50,000. Wouldn't go back anyway as they did not do a good job the first time. My mate bought the Nissan 2WD Sports ute a few years back and that drives well and has a nice interior. Found the diesel engine noise inside the cabin was more than the Mazda, and his servicing in Surin has been quite expensive in comparison. However your new Nissans does look nice, I checked it out last time I took his car the garage. My only issue is the resale value of my Mazda won't be good but I don't intend to sell for a while. Maybe Mazda joining Isuzu might switch a few of the hardened Thai country folk over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, natway09 said: Not much discount for cash as they make a "kickback" on credit sales Safe, happy driving Not with 0% credit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rawairat said: How much is the roller lid on the back, The price is 25,500 baht, from Carryboy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Ireland32 said: I just bought a Toyota Rocco , I wouldn’t think about a Nissan , I want resale value Why don't you post a picture of your girls ride? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said: I wouldn't be buying any Ford vehicles in Thailand; in my opinion, they'll be exiting the Thai market in the near future (like GM). My FB feed is filled with ads for the "last" few Rangers available in Thailand. Renault/Nissan has serious manufacturing QC and service issues in many markets...I hope for you it's not so in Thailand. I generally stick to Hondas and Toyos. Spoiler alert. The all-new... and we mean ALL new 2021 Ford Ranger should be hitting the local dealerships in 2022 so it's a T6 bargain bin right now. But carry on bashing away at the +10 year-old, reliable and dependable PX, PX2 and PX3 while you still can. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Back on topic, the OP's new ride is certainly an eye-catcher when compared with the eye-watering Rocco and Triton offerings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted October 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, NanLaew said: Back on topic, the OP's new ride is certainly an eye-catcher when compared with the eye-watering Rocco and Triton offerings. Well yes, an eye catcher in a carnival parade....???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 February this year I had a new 4 door manual 6 speed Wildtrak delivered direct from the factory to CM. Only thing changed was to 20" rims and added roller lid to the back (but went to the supplier myself for 10,000 baht less). Lovely fun truck and wouldn't trade it for the world. Got the lowest price as well because the sales gal is a really good friend of my daughter and took very little commission. Ford, Nissan, Rocco, or what ever, it is the person who buys who needs to be happy with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Had my Wildtrak 3 + years now, lovely ride. Battery replaced last year, & recently the a/c packed up, & cost 1000bt to fix. I would definitely buy another; however Bruno's Nissan really does look good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrnuno41 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just saw it some days ago , a second hand one, it looks great, dasly no sh price with it https://www.one2car.com/for-sale/nissan-np-300-navara-n-trek-warrior-กรุงเทพและปริมณฑล-กาญจนาภิเษก/7127775 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said: Just saw it some days ago , a second hand one, it looks great, dasly no sh price with it https://www.one2car.com/for-sale/nissan-np-300-navara-n-trek-warrior-กรุงเทพและปริมณฑล-กาญจนาภิเษก/7127775 Second hand? It just hit the market! The buyer just kept it a few weeks...at most... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: I wouldn't be buying any Ford vehicles in Thailand; in my opinion, they'll be exiting the Thai market in the near future (like GM). My FB feed is filled with ads for the "last" few Rangers available in Thailand. Renault/Nissan has serious manufacturing QC and service issues in many markets...I hope for you it's not so in Thailand. I generally stick to Hondas and Toyos. do you have any links to this idea Ford is leaving. i just read they are the best selling pick up in Thailand. and they had a huge display at the Bangkok auto show with the unveiling of the Raptor. also all auto sales across the board are down in Thailand except pickups. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: I wouldn't be buying any Ford vehicles in Thailand; in my opinion, they'll be exiting the Thai market in the near future (like GM). My FB feed is filled with ads for the "last" few Rangers available in Thailand. Could that be because there will be a new ranger model in 2021? Edited October 13, 2020 by Susco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Happy Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 3:46 AM, Brunolem said: Will do...the car is still with the dealer...I have asked for some extra stickers, UV film over the window screens, and a roll lid in the back...should be ready by the end of the week... Nice looking truck, better than wildtrak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olfu Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Nissan pickup? Over the years I changed 3 of them and all 3 had big air-con problems. Bought Dodge 1500 and 15 years later runs like new. Waiting for economy to crash to buy another one at half price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, NCC1701A said: do you have any links to this idea Ford is leaving. i just read they are the best selling pick up in Thailand. and they had a huge display at the Bangkok auto show with the unveiling of the Raptor. also all auto sales across the board are down in Thailand except pickups. As I said, it's an opinion and it's based on 3 things: (1) Seeing their line-up shrink from a half-dozen car and truck models a decade ago to two currently (and yes I'm aware Ford has announced they are now moving to eliminate most of their car models and focusing on trucks and SUVs...but Fords abandoning cars in Thailand has been happening for years and way before this new policy was announced), (2) Somewhat related...I don't think an automaker can be competitive in any market selling only two models, and (3) like GM, Ford's market share position in Thailand (and Oz/SE Asia from exports) and the sales/profit it generates isn't worth the management time and investment expense of a shrinking automaker like Ford. My data shows Toyo sells 200k commercial vehicles (includes pick-ups and SUVs) a year to Ford's 50k. Of course Toyo also sells vans and some other commercial vehicles so maybe Ford outsells them in pick-ups but I doubt it. And even if true, having one good selling model isn't enough reason to stay in the Thai market. FYI...I think the Ranger and Everest are great vehicles and top of their class in Thailand. However, I don't think Ford sells enough of them to justify their continuing presence in Thailand. I'd be happen to be proven wrong. Edited October 14, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 14 hours ago, transam said: Well yes, an eye catcher in a carnival parade....???? Blinged-out Thai style...all the up-country girls will be impressed for sure ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Susco said: Could that be because there will be a new ranger model in 2021? Could very well be...but see my post above for my opinion on Ford's long term viability in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: As I said, it's an opinion and it's based on 3 things: (1) Seeing their line-up shrink from a half-dozen car and truck models a decade ago to two currently (and yes I'm aware Ford has announced they are now moving to eliminate most of their car models and focusing on trucks and SUVs...but Fords abandoning cars in Thailand has been happening for years and way before this new policy was announced), (2) Somewhat related...I don't think an automaker can be competitive in any market selling only two models, and (3) like GM, Ford's market share position in Thailand (and Oz/SE Asia from exports) and the sales/profit it generates isn't worth the management time and investment expense of a shrinking automaker like Ford. My data shows Toyo sells 200k commercial vehicles (includes pick-ups and SUVs) a year to Ford's 50k. Of course Toyo also sells vans and some other commercial vehicles so maybe Ford outsells them in pick-ups but I doubt it. And even if true, having one good selling model isn't enough reason to stay in the Thai market. FYI...I think the Ranger and Everest are great vehicles and top of their class in Thailand. However, I don't think Ford sells enough of them to justify their continuing presence in Thailand. I'd be happen to be proven wrong. I hope you are wrong too. Ford have never been a big local brand and does not outsell Toyota pickups in Thailand. However, 50 or 60k Rangers per year is comparable volume to Nissan, Mazda and Mitsubishi and the Ranger does well in some other markets. Export production from AAT, the Ford - Mazda JV plant in Rayong is probably more important for their future in this region. I wonder what models will be produced at AAT to take the place of the Fiesta, Focus, EcoSport and the Ranger based BT-50? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jitar said: Export production from AAT, the Ford - Mazda JV plant in Rayong is probably more important for their future in this region. I wonder what models will be produced at AAT to take the place of the Fiesta, Focus, EcoSport and the Ranger based BT-50? While Ford has been shrinking their footprint in Thailand, Mazda has been expanding their model line-up. I assume the slack has been taken up by Mazda. In fact, I thought I read somewhere that the joint venture plant had been taken either taken over by Mazda or they pulled out and opened their own plant somewhere...basically that the joint venture was over. But I could be wrong in this. Edited October 15, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Ozark Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Congratulations with the truck. Looks good. I stick with Isuzu, however. Being a former ten wheel truck driver, I believe in a company that has their good record in the heavy materials business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: While Ford has been shrinking their footprint in Thailand, Mazda has been expanding their model line-up. I assume the slack has been taken up by Mazda. In fact, I thought I read somewhere that the joint venture plant had been taken either taken over by Mazda or they pulled out and opened their own plant somewhere...basically that the joint venture was over. But I could be wrong in this. AAT public information still shows as a Ford Mazda JV producing Ford Ranger, Mazda BT 50, Ford Everest, Mazda 3, Mazda 2 and Mazda CX-3. This will have changed as Mazda have announced the new BT-50 is produced by Isuzu, based on the D-max. I did see an article last year talking about Mazda investing to retool AAT. Maybe CX-30, CX-5 or CX-8? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 The Ford / Mazda parting of the ways is very old news, Google it. The all-new Ranger will share VW Amorok underpinnings whereas the all-new Mazda will move on with the Isuzu designed chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Viking Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: While Ford has been shrinking their footprint in Thailand, Mazda has been expanding their model line-up. I assume the slack has been taken up by Mazda. In fact, I thought I read somewhere that the joint venture plant had been taken either taken over by Mazda or they pulled out and opened their own plant somewhere...basically that the joint venture was over. But I could be wrong in this. Ford builds in two facilities, Auto Alliance Thailand (AAT) and Ford Thailand Manufacturing (FTM). I read somewhere Ford Thailand will be taking over the BT-50 line when Mazda moves it to Izuzu, Mazda will continue with the sedans (Maz 2 & 3) but the CX3 has been moved to Japan. in 2018 Mazda opening a powertrain facility in Chonburi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Techno Viking said: I read somewhere Ford Thailand will be taking over the BT-50 line when Mazda moves it to Izuzu, Mazda will continue with the sedans (Maz 2 & 3) but the CX3 has been moved to Japan. We must have read the same article but you remembered it better than me. Thais pronounce it "Izuzu" but it's spelled Isuzu ???? Edited October 15, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: We must have read the same article but you remembered it better than me. Thais pronounce it "Izuzu" but it's spelled Isuzu ???? In (my bit of) Isaan, it's pronounced Iss-zoozoo. In other news, Ford aint leaving Thailand. Edited October 16, 2020 by NanLaew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, NanLaew said: In (my bit of) Isaan, it's pronounced Iss-zoozoo. In other news, Ford aint leaving Thailand. Ford is retrenching worldwide ????...only really strong in North America. There is no reason for them to remain the Thai/SE Asia market...but time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Ford is retrenching worldwide ????...only really strong in North America. There is no reason for them to remain the Thai/SE Asia market...but time will tell. Many car makers are retrenching staff. Ford is no exception. I don't see any reason Ford would want to leave while the Ranger is selling well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Viking Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Ford is retrenching worldwide ????...only really strong in North America. There is no reason for them to remain the Thai/SE Asia market...but time will tell. They must be bad at forecasting the future then as they are currently moving towards tooling up for the next generation Everest and Ranger due 2021 and 2022....Large chunk of coin to spend for a company that might be pulling out. If they did pull out of SEA would they stop selling RHD Everest And Rangers and would they move production to the USA ? Edited October 16, 2020 by Techno Viking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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