6 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Social media that censors the press when it doesn't like the content is a very worrying development.

Do they censor what they don't like or what is unconfirmed?

It seems lots of stories seem to become "real" when they are repeated often enough on social media. Is that good?

I.e. that stupid Q-Anon conspiracy. Wouldn't it be much better if social media would not have spread that and other crazy conspiracy theories?

 

I think it should be the duty of the media to publish the truth. But I guess I am a little old-fashioned with that expectation.

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do they censor what they don't like or what is unconfirmed?

It seems lots of stories seem to become "real" when they are repeated often enough on social media. Is that good?

I.e. that stupid Q-Anon conspiracy. Wouldn't it be much better if social media would not have spread that and other crazy conspiracy theories?

 

I think it should be the duty of the media to publish the truth. But I guess I am a little old-fashioned with that expectation.

 

That's fine, providing they do that to all and every story, and not based on their own political bias. Seeing how the traditional media have evolved I wouldn't count on sm being any different.

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Based on what? You don't like Trump, you do like Biden?

 

So you see nothing odd that Hunter Biden gets $50k a month directors pay, for a firm in a foreign country, in an industry he knows zilch about, whilst his dad is VPOTUS responsible for US policy to Ukraine? And his dad demands the removal of the prosecutor investigating that firm and its executives for corruption by blackmailing the Ukrainian government on threats of withholding aid?

 

Just business as usual eh?

 

If it can be proved Biden snr lied about not ever discussing business with his son, he's got a problem. That's a big "if" mind.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54268887

 

The same baseless accusations again and again, it just doesn't penetrate.

9 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

So you can prove it's not true then?

 

Please show us your proof.

It is up to you to prove it is true. You can do your own search but the publisher did not do due diligence.

 

https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/14/suspect-provenance-of-hunter-biden-data-cache-prompts-skepticism-and-social-media-bans/

 

8 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

So then he's got nothing to worry about, has he?

 

And was all this information laid before the committee?

What he will be worried about is that some will believe anything unverified. Of course it will worry him that some are so easily conned.

3 hours ago, Ventenio said:

I have 5879 friends on Facebook

Your post was believable but you tripped up there, the maximum amount of friends you can have on facebook is 5000.

58 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Honest or not, he has a point. 

 

Are FB and Twitter deliberately censoring a story that could be very harmful to Joe Biden? Are they showing their political bias? 

Well, asking a loaded question like that certainly betrays your biases.

A post with a derogatory term has been removed.

 

49 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Indeed. It should be the same rules for everyone.

 

The right wing press are running amok suggesting Obama was fully aware of Biden's conflicts of interest and actions that favored his son and large payments. If there is truth in that, they should be thoroughly investigated and appropriate charges brought. 

 

But, as we see more and more, the US Justice System has become highly politicized.

 

Social media that censors the press when it doesn't like the content is a very worrying development.

The US justice system is firmly in the grip of Donald Trump and his corrupt USAG Bill Barr.

 

Trump ordered investigations into the Biden’s and those investigations came up with zilch.

 

Even Bill Barr can’t spirit credible accusations out of thin air.

 

Perhaps in some alternative reality Trump

and Barr don’t have control of the DoJ or are perversely working to protect the Biden’s.

 

Pass your conspiracy nonsense through a reality filter it’s in need of ‘adjustment’.

 

Social media removing fabricated lies from their platforms is not even a slightly ‘worrying development’.

 

 

'Man Who Reportedly Gave Hunter’s Laptop to Rudy Speaks Out in Bizarre Interview'

 

"Throughout the interview, Mac Isaac switched back and forth from saying he reached out to law enforcement after viewing the files in the laptop to saying that it was actually the Federal Bureau of Investigation that contacted him."

"Mac Isaac refused to answer specific questions about whether he had been in contact with Rudy Giuliani before the laptop drop-off or at any other time before the Post article’s publication and when pressed on his relationship with Giuliani, he replied: “When you’re afraid and you don’t know anything about the depth of the waters that you’re in, you want to find a lifeguard.”

Seeming to realize he’d said too much, he added: “Ah, <deleted>.”"

 

What a shining beacon of credibility!

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by Phoenix Rising

40 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

That's fine, providing they do that to all and every story, and not based on their own political bias. Seeing how the traditional media have evolved I wouldn't count on sm being any different.

Please, this story doesn't pass a basic smell test. The owner of the store and provider of the alleged data claims that Hunter Biden left this laptop with him to be repaired and never came back to pick it up. 

What makes the whole thing even more ridiculous is that even if this improbable story is true, it's been shown time and time again that in Ukraine Biden was carrying out the policy of the US Government in coordination with the EU and the IMF.  Not even the right wing Republican senator from Wisconsin could come up with anything to tar Joe Biden with in the report his committee issued. A report which even many Republican senators found to be an embarrassment.

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I find especially the time of creating the pdf, while Rudy was in Ukraine, and the way this surfaced, via Rudy, suspect.

 

What will be the next scam from the Trump campaign?

Oh you can bet they'll come up with "something."  They're desperate for an October surprise.  That's why Trump has been browbeating AG Barr.  But they've just about run out of time.  There's almost nothing that can change the trajectory of this election.  Just about everyone has made up their minds.       

4 hours ago, Adam219 said:

Pretty funny guys, I get that you hate trump, but that doesnt make this story any less true.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

The NY Post sits right next to the National Enquirer at the grocery store checkout. If they didn't run this story, it might have been Joe Biden Admits to Alien Abduction! Exclusive Story!

7 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Oh you can bet they'll come up with "something."  They're desperate for an October surprise.  That's why Trump has been browbeating AG Barr.  But they've just about run out of time.  There's almost nothing that can change the trajectory of this election.  Just about everyone has made up their minds.       

...Which is why they're (also) trying really hard to keep likely democratic voters from voting at all. It's like laws and the constitution are obsticals to these guys trying to hold onto power.

1 minute ago, allencraig said:

The NY Post sits right next to the National Enquirer at the grocery store checkout. If they didn't run this story, it might have been Joe Biden Admits to Alien Abduction! Exclusive Story!

And the standard pic on page 3 of a topless girl with 3 nipples.

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do they censor what they don't like or what is unconfirmed?

It seems lots of stories seem to become "real" when they are repeated often enough on social media. Is that good?

I.e. that stupid Q-Anon conspiracy. Wouldn't it be much better if social media would not have spread that and other crazy conspiracy theories?

 

I think it should be the duty of the media to publish the truth. But I guess I am a little old-fashioned with that expectation.

They censor what they do not like.

If they were concerned about the unconfirmed half the <deleted> written about Trump would be censored. 

I find it very difficult to be able to attach much, if any credibility to this.

Biden was widely investigated and no wrongdoing of any description found.

Then Giuliani of all people happens to come upon a hard drive we are supposed to believe contained highly damaging material, but was essentially discarded by the owner? A hard drive whose contents amazingly corresponds with the accusations Giuliani himself had been making, but were considered baseless?

I hope the full truth in this comes out, as it seems far more probable as has been widely commented on, that it is more likely a fabrication. If that proves to be the case I will be eager to see Giuliani explain it away, as it would be a despicable and highly criminal act.

I also note that even if proven genuine, there remains no evidence that any meeting took place, or provides any evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden.

With a very serious question mark hanging over strong political leaning of the computer guy who had it originally, it appears as quite possibly, a very dubious smear attempt, but nothing more.

Credence should not be given to something possibly spurious, without genuine verification, which seems to be missing here to date.

As moderators we also remove things that can reasonably be considered untrue or inaccurate, so FB and Twitter are doing nothing different.

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5 hours ago, Adam219 said:

Pretty funny guys, I get that you hate trump, but that doesnt make this story any less true.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

Very credible publication ????

And then there is China: 

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/inside-hunter-bidens-murky-history-of-business-dealings-in-china/

He promised to show his taxes did he ever do that

Will be interesting to see how Biden handles questions on this. 

If he ever actually gets asked any questions.

C'mon man let's do push ups 

 

 

8 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

He promised to show his taxes did he ever do that

He is much indebted as we all know and been investigated for possibility of being compromised by foreign powers. 

https://cnnphilippines.com/world/2020/10/15/trump-2016-campaign-foreign-links.html

 

 

13 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

He is much indebted as we all know and been investigated for possibility of being compromised by foreign powers. 

https://cnnphilippines.com/world/2020/10/15/trump-2016-campaign-foreign-links.html

 

 

This time around I find strange that several of Trump's  campaign ad's directed at Biden use images of Russian origin  lifted from stock imagery.

One of those relates to the accusations  about Military funding but what should be an embarrassment is that image content is of Russian equipment ! Others  are  more  generic in depiction

Is Trump's campaign Management contracting out  to Russia ? Once again their funding is a  bit stretched.

7 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Poor Trump.  First his bogus "unmasking" investigation--using taxpayer money no less--and that he's been spouting about for months, found absolutely nothing.  Then his Russian propaganda on Hunter Biden is being ignored by reputable media and censored by Twitter and Facebook.  This close to the election.  But Trump needn't worry.  People are already early voting, so no point in manufacturing fake news now. 

Just heard 14 million have voted. 

Poor Joe can’t remember any details, of course.

37 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

This time around I find strange that several of Trump's  campaign ad's directed at Biden use images of Russian origin  lifted from stock imagery.

One of those relates to the accusations  about Military funding but what should be an embarrassment is that image content is of Russian equipment ! Others  are  more  generic in depiction

Is Trump's campaign Management contracting out  to Russia ? Once again their funding is a  bit stretched.

It was reported that the animation was done by a Russian photographer and illustrator. What a joke.

22 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Poor Joe can’t remember any details, of course.

Time for Rudy  and his boss to hit  the nbc and abc sunday shows!

4 minutes ago, riclag said:

Time for Rudy  and his boss to hit  the nbc and abc sunday shows!

The video linked to might make you want to reconsider. Even the fox news hosts were dismayed:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-and-friends-hosts-look-on-in-horror-as-rudy-giuliani-blurts-out-biden-dementia-conspiracy-theory

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The video linked to might make you want to reconsider. Even the fox news hosts were dismayed:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-and-friends-hosts-look-on-in-horror-as-rudy-giuliani-blurts-out-biden-dementia-conspiracy-theory

The President is doing a town hall tonight ! Just seen that! Its quite possible the NYP story  could come up !

https://www.foxnews.com/media/don-lemon-rips-nbc-for-rewarding-trump-with-town-hall-opposite-abcs-biden-event-outright-embarrassing

 

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Time for Rudy  and his boss to hit  the nbc and abc sunday shows!

 

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by riclag

4 minutes ago, riclag said:

The President is doing a town hall tonight ! Just seen that! Its quite possible the NYP story  could come up !

https://www.foxnews.com/media/don-lemon-rips-nbc-for-rewarding-trump-with-town-hall-opposite-abcs-biden-event-outright-embarrassing

 

 

And you actually believe that this is a good thing for Trump? If I were you, I'd pray it doesn't come up. But most likely your prayer will be in vain. Unless you can get James Comey to endorse the story.

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by placeholder

26 minutes ago, riclag said:

Time for Rudy  and his boss to hit  the nbc and abc sunday shows!

Yes, I could really use some comic relief.