Trump will win with over 300 Electoral College votes and with an indisputable popular vote (citizen's vote).

 

 

9 minutes ago, Thai Dan said:

Trump will win with over 300 Electoral College votes and with an indisputable popular vote (citizen's vote).

 

 

The consensus of polls has never been that wrong.

 

The reality is that if 45 legitimately wins it will be with a minority of the popular votes with a deficit in that even bigger than last time. I suppose 300 electoral votes is possible if highly unlikely.

Edited October 26, 20205 yr by Jingthing

24 minutes ago, Thai Dan said:

Trump will win with over 300 Electoral College votes and with an indisputable popular vote (citizen's vote).

 

 

He could have a chance but blew the chance with his mishandling of the pandemic and the economy. No incumbent win in a weak economy and deaths daily. 

6 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

He could have a chance but blew the chance with his mishandling of the pandemic and the economy. No incumbent win in a weak economy and deaths daily. 

The only mishandling was done by the Governors.  Trump shut down air traffic, ramped up Fed assistance to the States, started a superfund to find a vaccine, mobilized the military to assist with hospital ships and medical staff, and provided checks to all citizens.  Don't believe the MSM talking the Left's narrative.  Dig deeper for better information.  The international press is not responsible for the newswire feeds that they receive from their U.S. affiliates, but that does not make them any more correct.

5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Trump has rendered agenda unimportant after all he abandon his agenda for the wall and a new affordable care. This is an election of character and suitability for the highest office in the land and sadly Trump loses in all that departments. 

I'll take results.  Of course you don't think he has had any, except bad ones over Covid.  His actions on Covid were proper.  A virus with an estimated death rate for the U.S. of over 2 million souls, turned out to be only just over 200k souls (10%).  That speaks volumes over the mere accusations of the Left.

8 minutes ago, Thai Dan said:

I'll take results.  Of course you don't think he has had any, except bad ones over Covid.  His actions on Covid were proper.  A virus with an estimated death rate for the U.S. of over 2 million souls, turned out to be only just over 200k souls (10%).  That speaks volumes over the mere accusations of the Left.

Let me guess where you got these numbers. What is Trump who told you?

Do you believe everything he utters?

 

20 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Hillary Clinton to Biden: Don't concede if the election is close

"Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances because I think this is going to drag out," Clinton warned.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/25/hillary-clinton-joe-biden-election-advice-401641

 

And, as usual, you're taking that comment out of context. Nothing new here. Nothing even remotely problematic with her comment.

 

 

21 hours ago, petey123 said:

imagine the country that identifies itself as "exceptional" taking two years to select a trump vs. a biden.    IMHO the two "parties" are virtually identical on foreign policy and both are subservient to major corporations on domestic policy matters.   and the american media is nothing but a propaganda organ for the political and business elites..    what a country!

 

As opposed to? Are politicians in other countries all that much better? Not owing a thing to major corporations and donors? Media elsewhere not connected with various interests? Or maybe you want to chime in on how things are done in the 'exceptional' rivals, China and Russia?

20 hours ago, ICELANDMAN said:

Is it just these two that you have to vote on ? Why can't you choose at least among twenty potential candidates as a true democracy, vote like that and how to choose a coin with the same two sides.

 

No. One can vote to independent candidates if they run. Last election this contributed some to HRC's loss. As for them 'twenty potential candidates' in a 'true democracy' - even then, only a couple (or at best, a handful) will have a realistic shot at winning - the rest are fluff.

19 hours ago, riclag said:

The  rallies/peaceful protests  are in response to  my countries First Amendment right to gather , to protest! After watching just about all of this years events the gist of the peaceful protests are about  protesting  socialism , communism and anti law enforcement in my country !

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-trump-rally-attendees-are-holding-signs-claiming-theyre-at-a-peaceful-protest-2020-08-28

 

 

I doubt you have a clear handle on what Socialism or Communism mean and imply. Considering how you freely toss these about, without much connection to actual positions of candidates, and coupled with your usual 'far left' nonsense.

19 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Trump will have a easy win because Joe and Hunter and the laptop will be in Jail if the FBI does it's job.

 

Is the laptop getting the upper bunk?

29 minutes ago, Thai Dan said:

I'll take results.  Of course you don't think he has had any, except bad ones over Covid.  His actions on Covid were proper.  A virus with an estimated death rate for the U.S. of over 2 million souls, turned out to be only just over 200k souls (10%).  That speaks volumes over the mere accusations of the Left.

224221 deaths is not ‘just over 200,000’.

 

It’s not done yet and it’s accelerating.

36 minutes ago, Thai Dan said:

The only mishandling was done by the Governors.  Trump shut down air traffic, ramped up Fed assistance to the States, started a superfund to find a vaccine, mobilized the military to assist with hospital ships and medical staff, and provided checks to all citizens.  Don't believe the MSM talking the Left's narrative.  Dig deeper for better information.  The international press is not responsible for the newswire feeds that they receive from their U.S. affiliates, but that does not make them any more correct.

" I will be President for all" proclaimed by Trump at his 2016 victory speech. I guess the pledge is conditional. 

18 hours ago, Lacessit said:

From behind a keyboard, everyone cleaned up. Funny how no--one lost.

 

I cleaned my keyboard, does it count?

38 minutes ago, Thai Dan said:

I'll take results.  Of course you don't think he has had any, except bad ones over Covid.  His actions on Covid were proper.  A virus with an estimated death rate for the U.S. of over 2 million souls, turned out to be only just over 200k souls (10%).  That speaks volumes over the mere accusations of the Left.

It is still possible for the death rate to reach 2 million if Trump gets another 4 years. Please vote him out to save your lives. 

If you are getting tired with all of the B/S in this election just go to youtube

kevin bloody wilson  What's Donald going to do today

Its worth a laugh

Edited October 26, 20205 yr by Grumpy one

17 hours ago, WuhanVagabond said:

Yeah, so... just so you know, your handlers are both proud of you and of themselves.

Watch something other than MSNBC and CNN (and NBC< ABC, CBS and NPR). If you think the Burismo scandal is a conspiracy theory, then you are willfully ignorant or mentally challenged.10 years from now, when the country is a disaster, you'll be like the adult looking back at what you did at 16 and shaking your head at your stupidity...

 

What 'other' sources of information and news would these be? What do you recommend? Which ones do you use?

16 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  What charges do you think he will face ?

 

He's got several cases pending and related investigations. Covered on numerous topics and posts. Deflection and denials won't make them go away.

13 hours ago, englishoak said:

 

You are merely fantasising, in your head youd wish it to be the case but...lets be realistic, this is the most investigated guy on earth,  investigations one after another and whats the findings ? nothing... zip nada or worse false claims, made up documents and lying witnesses or sources everywhere, some in jail already. Remember creepy porn lawyer ? .... every media has been digging for something, political opponents and global players all these have had 4 years or more to dig up any skeletons, let alone your dreams of his actions.Talking to another major foreign leader when one is the job,  if they are laughing together it means absolutely nothing... its what statesmen do. If  you decide you dont like it thats just you being emotional. 

 

Where is any evidence ? does anyone think for a moment if it was there we wouldnt all know  ? the MSM wouldnt have stopped running the stories with the evidence... or  it would be used for electoral purpose and ammunition no ?  Truth is if there was anything that damning or truly criminal it would have been used already... Either Trump is as clean as he claims or ALL his opponents are too dumb, incompetent  or just plain wrong..or ... Is Trump just a smarter tactical business, judicial and political genius than all those who oppose him , which is it ? 

 

Tick Tok, times running out.

 

 

You are aware his position makes proper investigation and legal steps problematic, right? When he's no longer President some of these will surely progress, some old threads may be taken up again. Some will be dropped too, for sure.

6 hours ago, bendejo said:

A win for DT is a win for Putin.

 

 

 

Any result is a win for Putin. Trump wins, and it's four more years of chaos. Biden wins, and it's four years of Trump and cult members spreading bile. Either way the USA is weakened.

12 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

You are aware his position makes proper investigation and legal steps problematic, right? When he's no longer President some of these will surely progress, some old threads may be taken up again. Some will be dropped too, for sure.

If Americans ever held their leaders to account after leaving office Johnson, Nixon, Reagan and both Bushs would have been locked up.

Hmmm.....it seems even Putin thinks Biden will win.  He's already trying to get on the good side of the incoming administration....

 

[Putin appeared less friendly towards Trump in remarks broadcast by Russian state TV on Sunday. In what may be seen by some analysts as an attempt to try to curry favour with the Biden camp, he took the time to knock down what he made clear he regarded as false allegations from Trump about the Bidens.]

 

[“But well yes he had at least one company, which he practically headed up, and judging from everything he made good money. I don’t see anything criminal about this, at least we don’t know anything about this (being criminal).”]

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-putin-idUSKBN27A0TA

 

 

On 10/25/2020 at 1:31 PM, stevenl said:

His policies don't include small business closures, and higher taxes only for the select few.

 

People are getting out and voting already, and he is running his campaign completely different from Hillary.

 

Biden can win without florida, Trump can't win without it.

 

No factual correct points in your post, so your wish is very clear.

 

Btw, what is your answer to the op?

His policies do include taxing businesses he is raising th business tax.  Not just that but when he raises the taxes on corporations who do you think is going to pay for the increase.

His taxes will affect directly anyone making over 400,000

Raising the minimum wage will cause many small businesses to close as they will not be able to afford the staff or to buy inventory (again the rise in minimum wage has to be paid by someone)

Look at the employment rate i the states that raised it.  Yes people may get more wage but they will also pay more in taxes. remember you are taxed on the earned income so 20% of 15 dollars is more than 20% of 10 dollars.

 

After Biden's statement on Oct 25th when he bragged about "having  put  together...I think, the 'most extensive VOTER FRAUD organization' in history", the democrats could win this election, albeit by fraud.

9 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

His policies do include taxing businesses he is raising th business tax.  Not just that but when he raises the taxes on corporations who do you think is going to pay for the increase.

His taxes will affect directly anyone making over 400,000

Raising the minimum wage will cause many small businesses to close as they will not be able to afford the staff or to buy inventory (again the rise in minimum wage has to be paid by someone)

Look at the employment rate i the states that raised it.  Yes people may get more wage but they will also pay more in taxes. remember you are taxed on the earned income so 20% of 15 dollars is more than 20% of 10 dollars.

 

You're confusing your conclusions with his policies.

10 minutes ago, i84teen said:

After Biden's statement on Oct 25th when he bragged about "having  put  together...I think, the 'most extensive VOTER FRAUD organization' in history", the democrats could win this election, albeit by fraud.

Deliberate misrepresentation, contrary to forum rules, even Fox acknowledged Biden had mis-spoken.

 

The former vice president’s campaign told Fox News that over the past several months they have created the largest election protection program in presidential campaign history, involving integrated legal, communications and political strategies for what they anticipate to be an unprecedented election.

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

Hmmm.....it seems even Putin thinks Biden will win.  He's already trying to get on the good side of the incoming administration....

 

[Putin appeared less friendly towards Trump in remarks broadcast by Russian state TV on Sunday. In what may be seen by some analysts as an attempt to try to curry favour with the Biden camp, he took the time to knock down what he made clear he regarded as false allegations from Trump about the Bidens.]

 

[“But well yes he had at least one company, which he practically headed up, and judging from everything he made good money. I don’t see anything criminal about this, at least we don’t know anything about this (being criminal).”]

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-putin-idUSKBN27A0TA

 

 

I guess after Trump lost and after he is not useful anymore Putin can release some of that kompromat.

1 hour ago, kingstonkid said:

His policies do include taxing businesses he is raising th business tax.  Not just that but when he raises the taxes on corporations who do you think is going to pay for the increase.

His taxes will affect directly anyone making over 400,000

Raising the minimum wage will cause many small businesses to close as they will not be able to afford the staff or to buy inventory (again the rise in minimum wage has to be paid by someone)

Look at the employment rate i the states that raised it.  Yes people may get more wage but they will also pay more in taxes. remember you are taxed on the earned income so 20% of 15 dollars is more than 20% of 10 dollars.

 

Making facts up much?

Labor Market Is Doing Fine With Higher Minimum Wages

Predictions of job losses and slower economic growth haven’t panned out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-01-24/u-s-economy-higher-minimum-wages-haven-t-increased-unemployment

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70/30 Biden will take it but it's certainly up for grabs. Trump voters are silent and the pc liberal pollsters have never got that. I hope Trump wins, not because I like him, but I loathe the self-righteous hypocritical liberals much more and I want to see their little faces if he wins.