1 hour ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

US Election 2020: Vladimir Putin’s silence is a foreboding sign he is unhappy over Trump loss

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/us-election-2020-vladimir-putins-silence-is-a-foreboding-sign-he-is-unhappy-over-trump-loss/news-story/fc0387b3d4cd3aefdba3ffaada8c1049

 

did you read the entire article?  nothing sinister to see here.....any formal response would shirley be called out as election interference. 

 

Overnight, a Kremlin spokesperson indicated they will wait until the election result is officially confirmed before providing a formal reaction, noting Trump’s legal claims over possible electoral fraud. China echoed a similar response.

“We believe it is correct to wait for the official results of the elections that have taken place,” Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

“I’d like to remind you that President Putin has repeatedly said that he will respect the choice of the American people whatever it may be.”

Peskov said Putin would be “ready to work with any elected president of the United States” despite a crumbling relationship since Moscow was accused of election interference in 2016.

2 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

did you read the entire article?  nothing sinister to see here.....any formal response would shirley be called out as election interference. 

 

Overnight, a Kremlin spokesperson indicated they will wait until the election result is officially confirmed before providing a formal reaction, noting Trump’s legal claims over possible electoral fraud. China echoed a similar response.

“We believe it is correct to wait for the official results of the elections that have taken place,” Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

“I’d like to remind you that President Putin has repeatedly said that he will respect the choice of the American people whatever it may be.”

Peskov said Putin would be “ready to work with any elected president of the United States” despite a crumbling relationship since Moscow was accused of election interference in 2016.

I didn't say anything is sinister but in 2016 he congratulated him within 1 hour

9 minutes ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

I didn't say anything is sinister but in 2016 he congratulated him within 1 hour

not stated, but imo implied when you post a link to an article, without comment, about the "forboding" silence of putin.  what is the importance of the article?

 

 

Peskov said that this election was different because of the legal challenges that Trump, who has refused to concede defeat, is planning to mount over the vote.

“The difference is quite obvious … then there were no announcements of legal challenges,” Peskov said.

Edited November 9, 20205 yr by ChouDoufu

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

The Trump campaing has set up a toll-free phone line for citizens to report potential ballot fraud. It's going about as well as you might expect:

The Trump Campaign’s Voter Fraud Hotline Keeps Getting Pranked

https://slate.com/culture/2020/11/trump-campaign-fraud-hotline-pranked-hamburglar-gravity-falls-tiktok.html

Ah! Ah! It's priceless.

It's also quite representative of the GOP m.o. They file complaints but they have no evidence, so they ask people if they have noticed anything. ????

3 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

US Election 2020: Vladimir Putin’s silence is a foreboding sign he is unhappy over Trump loss

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/us-election-2020-vladimir-putins-silence-is-a-foreboding-sign-he-is-unhappy-over-trump-loss/news-story/fc0387b3d4cd3aefdba3ffaada8c1049

Same for Xi , Erdogan, 

7 minutes ago, Opl said:

Same for Xi , Erdogan, 

 

So DT's dictator buddies are unhappy?  I see that as a positive for the U.S.

 

 

10 minutes ago, bendejo said:

 

So DT's dictator buddies are unhappy?  I see that as a positive for the U.S.

 

 

Back to december 2019 

"Mr Biden, the former US vice president, says in the video he is "very concerned" about Mr Erdogan's approach to Kurds in Turkey, his partial military co-operation with Russia, and access to US airfields in the country, a NATO ally. "What I think we should be doing is taking a very different approach to him now, making it clear that we support opposition leadership," Mr Biden said in the video and verified by a transcript published in January by the Times, according to Reuters."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden-turkey-idUSKCN25B0XS

 

America Under Biden Won’t Go Soft on China

" On Election Day, the editor of the Chinese government propaganda newspaper Global Times, Hu Xijin, gleefully posted on Twitter about storefronts being boarded up in U.S. cities, writing that unrest is usually a “complication of elections in poor countries, but people are worried it may appear in the US. The US is in degradation.” 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/11/06/biden-china-trump-election/

 

Edited November 9, 20205 yr by Opl

4 minutes ago, Opl said:

Back to december 2019 

"Mr Biden, the former US vice president, says in the video he is "very concerned" about Mr Erdogan's approach to Kurds in Turkey, his partial military co-operation with Russia, and access to US airfields in the country, a NATO ally. "What I think we should be doing is taking a very different approach to him now, making it clear that we support opposition leadership," Mr Biden said in the video and verified by a transcript published in January by the Times, according to Reuters."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden-turkey-idUSKCN25B0XS

 

 

For those who like to credit DT with not starting any wars while in office this is other end of the telescope: he's been capitulating to world leaders who are stronger and smarter than him.  We can only imagine the jokes they tell about him.

 

 

19 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Very likely he will continue playing golf, sulking and the occasional Twitter storm until January 20.

 

Perhaps no more "big announcements" with concerned and hurt expressions  at the White House, he may have noticed that they just lead people to take the <deleted>!

 

And then, inauguration day, "The Final Meltdown"

He is firing a lot of people but that is nothing new.  To take a line from Terminator, that's what he does, that's all he does.  Apologies for insulting terminators.

 

Edited November 9, 20205 yr by shdmn

22 hours ago, ChakaKhan said:

Babies gonna act like babies.....next

well the other side has been doing this  since Trump got  elected

8 hours ago, connda said:

Sad that we live in a world where deceit and deception are rife across political divides. 
So many people believe that the ends justifies the means.  It does not.
Here's the bottom line regarding the current state of the presidential elections:
State legislatures and the Electoral College are the bodies that certify presidential elections <period>. 

Come January 20, 2021 we should know who the POTUS is. Until then?  If it's not official then it's just as fake at that headline you pointed out to me.  Moral relativity doesn't make a fake headline wrong and a fake proclamation of presidential election results right.  At best, the media statements are their own projections and nothing more.
So - let's wait and see.

I hope it was food for thought when it was a Trump staffer that presented that fake front page. You are correct to say that Biden isn't formally going to be president as of today but the decisions made by the press to call a winner were the same as has been done for over 150 years or more. 

At best the media statements are more than what you say - they are based on counted votes and the fact that there is little or no evidence of significant mistakes or fraud. The media made the same decision in 2016 with Trump.

The difference this year is that Trump and his cohorts are raising lots of red herrings about what might be.

By all means Trump can have his day in court but the press are correct to call the winner based on available facts.

As you know it's the trick of dictators to diminish the press and confuse voters. I hope you can consider that to a lesser degree that might be what is going on here.

Edited November 9, 20205 yr by Fat is a type of crazy

Why does it take over 2 months to install a new president. In every country i know you are out on your ear the next day.

Still waiting for the final results after a week!.

Greatest democracy in the world! You're having a laugh.

7 hours ago, connda said:

 

His lawyers are on it.  Until then, kick back with some popcorn and relax. 
And while relaxing both sides should do some soul-searching.  How are you personally going to react if US court decisions or a decision by the US Supreme Court doesn't turn out in the manner that you wish?  Will you accept the results gracefully or attempt to burn the house down while advocating for the destruction of the system and whomever enters the Oval Office?
 

 

He has made unfounded remarks on voter fraud for 4 years and never game with proof, so what are his lawyers onto?

19 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

And one thing Trump does not do, is run from trouble.

Oh, so we can expect him to divulge his taxes any day now....since this is the guy that does not run from trouble...because trouble is currently waiting for him in the State Of New York.

10 minutes ago, johnmell said:

Why does it take over 2 months to install a new president.

 

Living in the past (took a while to get there from certain parts of the country). Used to be even longer before the 20th Amendment. You'd think it would be changed to avoid such a ridiculous situation but ...

23 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Hopefully everybody agrees the election result must be seen as legitimate. Proper investigations into Trump's claims must be made, and fast. If, as he claims, there is enough fraudulent/irregular activities to swap tightly fought state results from Dem to GOP then he could be elected President. More than a few dozen instances of fraud then a full audit of every vote nationwide must be done to ascertain the scale of wrongdoing. After the Russia fiasco we know the left take alleged election interference seriously enough to waste many years over. A full audit now would only take a few days.

 Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

NothingBurger..Welcome to the Death Rattle of the Trump Sh*tShow

12 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

They   are   still  counting   votes.  Common sense would dictate all votes be counted before announcing who won.

Keep your shirt on...elections are not officially over until the Secretaries of State of each individual state certify the results, which i believe happens next month by tradition. The problem is claiming fraud and yelling "stop the count" are an attempt to impede the normal electoral process and short circuit the method that has ALWAYS been used. The reality is that unless the counts (or recounts) drastically change existing results, there is only a tiny chance that Trump will come out on top.

Edited November 9, 20205 yr by tonray

10 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

22 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

. And one thing Trump does not do, is run from trouble.

He ran from the Vietnam war.

He ran from two former wives, he ran from the woman suing for slander, he has run from innumerable contractors, he's gonna be running from international creditors who don't take "bankruptcy" for an answer, and on and on and on.

8 hours ago, EricTh said:

Does Trump still have any presidential power before Jan 20 when the handover is official?

 

Does he still have any  authority to sign official documents on behalf of US government?

The miserable man-baby just fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper in an absolute act of petulance. Expect the idiot-still-in-chief to make as much trouble as he can.

Post with trolling graphics removed.   It's a discussion forum.

 

 

6 hours ago, johnmcc6 said:

so your knowledge is greater than the supreme court cause that's where it's going

Court cases at this moment are zero for seven. The election decision will never reach the Supreme Court because of that one pesky requirement - evidence, of which there is none.

20 minutes ago, tonray said:

The reality is that unless the counts (or recounts) drastically change existing results, there is only a tiny chance that Trump will come out on top.

but there is a chance.

WATCH: Fox News just cut out of Kayleigh McEnany’s presser — because she was lying too much

Even a Fox can report news lately.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/watch-fox-news-just-cut-out-of-kayleigh-mcenanys-presser-because-she-was-lying-too-much/

Hearing some rumblings that people close to trump say there may be a path to concession...

 

Some say he has demands, a bit like a bankruptcy negotiation I imagine?

 

On the Bargaining step I guess.

 

 

22 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

WATCH: Fox News just cut out of Kayleigh McEnany’s presser — because she was lying too much

Even a Fox can report news lately.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/watch-fox-news-just-cut-out-of-kayleigh-mcenanys-presser-because-she-was-lying-too-much/

 

Although people may not remember it, there was a period in 2015 or 2016 when Murdock put out the word to his organization to cut off Trump.  Trump was furious and refused to do any interviews with Fox at all.  And then Fox lost 25% of its viewership.  So, Trump won and Murdoch backed off.  But Murdoch's eye was always on his own interest, not any sentimental loyalty to Trump.  Not surprising.

11 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

 

Although people may not remember it, there was a period in 2015 or 2016 when Murdock put out the word to his organization to cut off Trump.  Trump was furious and refused to do any interviews with Fox at all.  And then Fox lost 25% of its viewership.  So, Trump won and Murdoch backed off.  But Murdoch's eye was always on his own interest, not any sentimental loyalty to Trump.  Not surprising.

Especially because they know Trump is about to set up a competing news venture....I'm sure it will be filled with right wing conspiracy theorirsts and it looks like Megan Kelly is vying for an anchor job.

4 minutes ago, tonray said:

Especially because they know Trump is about to set up a competing news venture....I'm sure it will be filled with right wing conspiracy theorirsts and it looks like Megan Kelly is vying for an anchor job.

Covid will ease off, trump will not

1 hour ago, J Town said:

The miserable man-baby just fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper in an absolute act of petulance. Expect the idiot-still-in-chief to make as much trouble as he can.

Let's hope Esper makes a comeback after Biden takes office.

17 minutes ago, tonray said:

Especially because they know Trump is about to set up a competing news venture....I'm sure it will be filled with right wing conspiracy theorirsts and it looks like Megan Kelly is vying for an anchor job.

Oh yes, I'd heard about that. A Trump controlled news channel. I'd rather assured that it was a joke!

 

If it ever happens, it will be.

 

Mind you you need quite a lot of cash to set up any media operation. Access to cash ( borrowing) could just be a problem "going forward'" as they say!

Edited November 10, 20205 yr by herfiehandbag

8 minutes ago, EricTh said:

Let's hope Esper makes a comeback after Biden takes office.

I just saw a list of candidates for top jobs with the Biden admin.  Several were fired by Trump.  That's gotta hurt Trump!  Love it.