3 hours ago, mfd101 said:

There is considerable worry in the US Defence/security community about the security implications of Trump's behaviours after he retires permanently to the golf course.

The solution to this is having him retire permanently to a jail cell, where he belongs.

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20 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Are you guys still obsessing about the two time Nobel prize nominee?  They guys who’s policies created the lowest ever unemployment rate for African Americans, while earning the highest wages in history?  The guy who’s people created the first viable long term peace plan in the Middle East since the Carter administration (Nobel prize nomination #1).  The guy who put two Eastern European nations who had been bitter enemies together and crafted an historic trade agreement (Nobel prize nomination #2).  The guy who renegotiated NAFTA and the trade agreement with China; both which benefitted the USA.  Now that things are winding down, what’s will you guys do next?  You’re going to have a ton of time on your hands.  ????. ????. ????

Are you talking about the guy who downplayed the virus, lied about, made it political and is personally responsible for the deaths of thousands?

26 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Are you guys still obsessing about the two time Nobel prize nominee?  They guys who’s policies created the lowest ever unemployment rate for African Americans, while earning the highest wages in history?  The guy who’s people created the first viable long term peace plan in the Middle East since the Carter administration (Nobel prize nomination #1).  The guy who put two Eastern European nations who had been bitter enemies together and crafted an historic trade agreement (Nobel prize nomination #2).  The guy who renegotiated NAFTA and the trade agreement with China; both which benefitted the USA.  Now that things are winding down, what’s will you guys do next?  You’re going to have a ton of time on your hands.  ????. ????. ????

No, just the guy voted out.

29 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Are you guys still obsessing about the two time Nobel prize nominee?  They guys who’s policies created the lowest ever unemployment rate for African Americans, while earning the highest wages in history?  The guy who’s people created the first viable long term peace plan in the Middle East since the Carter administration (Nobel prize nomination #1).  The guy who put two Eastern European nations who had been bitter enemies together and crafted an historic trade agreement (Nobel prize nomination #2).  The guy who renegotiated NAFTA and the trade agreement with China; both which benefitted the USA.  Now that things are winding down, what’s will you guys do next?  You’re going to have a ton of time on your hands.  ????. ????. ????

Trump goosed an already strong economy with a huge increase in deficit spending.  I'm not impressed.

 

What long term peace plan in the Middle East?  Certainly not one including the Palestinians.  Or one that constrains the threat from Iran.

 

What Eastern European nations are you referring to and what trade agreement?

 

I agree that he tweaked NAFTA and gave it some needed updates, but that was hardly revolutionary.  I'm not aware of any long term trade agreement with China.

 

BTW:  Nobel Peace Prize nominees include Stalin, Putin, Hitler, Rush Limbaugh and Hugo Chavez.  The standards for getting nominated are not high.

 

Most important of all, the topic is about Trump's obsessing over losing the election and impeding a smooth transition of power to the detriment of the country.  It's not about your idolizing Trump.

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4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And they pretend to be the leader for democracy in this world. Pathetic! 

 

Shouldn't your post be more directly pointed to the antics of Thump and his "Thump Team"?

29 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Are you talking about the guy who downplayed the virus, lied about, made it political and is personally responsible for the deaths of thousands?

That’s Silvio Berlusconi... you have your nations and leaders mixed up.

1 hour ago, Ramen087 said:

Are you guys still obsessing about the two time Nobel prize nominee?  They guys who’s policies created the lowest ever unemployment rate for African Americans, while earning the highest wages in history?  The guy who’s people created the first viable long term peace plan in the Middle East since the Carter administration (Nobel prize nomination #1).  The guy who put two Eastern European nations who had been bitter enemies together and crafted an historic trade agreement (Nobel prize nomination #2).  The guy who renegotiated NAFTA and the trade agreement with China; both which benefitted the USA.  Now that things are winding down, what’s will you guys do next?  You’re going to have a ton of time on your hands.  ????. ????. ????

Ah, the alternative reality of trump supporters never ceases to amaze.........next they will be saying that the election was stolen from them!!

6 hours ago, teacherclaire said:

 

Amazing. Please let religions out of anything that matters

You mean like that photo-op that Trump created of him holding the bible in front of that church near the WH, for which hundreds of peaceful protesters were teargassed and clubbed out of the way? What is amazing is that he wasn’t struck down by lightning right away. If ever there was proof that there is no god, it had to be this.

IIRC as an ex-VP Biden is still read in anyway. I stand to be corrected though.

 

Pretty sure he's aware of the existential threats anyway (alleged dementia notwithstanding).

1 hour ago, Ramen087 said:

They guys who’s policies created the lowest ever unemployment rate for African Americans, while earning the highest wages in history? 

 

Trump has a well-deserved reputation for taking credit for things that others' primarily are responsible for...

 

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The unemployment rate — including for black Americans — has been steadily decreasing since 2011. This continued after Trump took office, suggesting there isn’t much evidence he is single-handedly responsible for the decline. One might argue Trump deserves praise for overseeing the continued drop in unemployment, as he could have made harmful decisions that reversed the direction of the economy. But again, factors beyond the president’s actions also helped keep the economy moving in the right direction.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/17/trump-takes-credit-low-black-unemployment-rates-most-black-voters-largely-disagree/

 

 

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A 77 percent majority of black Americans say Trump deserves “only some” or “hardly any” credit for the 5.5 percent unemployment rate among black adults compared with 20 percent who say Trump deserves significant credit.

In follow-up interviews, many said former president Barack Obama deserves more credit for the improvement in the unemployment rate, which declined from a high of 16.8 percent in 2010 to 7.5 percent when he left office.

 

 

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5 hours ago, vandeventer said:

 The count still goes on and President Trump is still the President until the courts say otherwise.

 

No, that's not the way the U.S. electoral system works. Nothing has to wait for the courts to say anything:

 

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“The thing about the American Constitution is that it doesn’t actually require the sitting president to do anything one way or the other. On January 20th, Donald Trump’s term ends and Joe Biden’s, I believe, will begin.” 

 

According to the 20th Amendment to the Constitution, the candidate with the most electoral votes becomes president at noon on Jan. 20. The current president’s term is therefore over on that day, just before noon.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/12/constitution-will-end-trumps-term-if-he-doesnt-concede-john-yoo.html

 

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The electoral college meets on 14 December to cast its vote for president and nearly every state uses the statewide popular vote to allocate its electors. Biden is projected to win far more than the 270 electoral votes he needs to become president. His victory doesn’t hinge on one state and he has probably insurmountable leads in Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Arizona.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/11/can-donald-trump-stay-in-office-second-term-president-coup

 

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Regardless of however long a dispute is, the constitution does set one final deadline. Even if counting is ongoing, the president and vice-president’s terms both end at noon on 20 January. At that point if there isn’t a final result in the race, the speaker of the House – probably Nancy Pelosi – would become the acting president.

 

1 hour ago, Ramen087 said:

That’s Silvio Berlusconi... you have your nations and leaders mixed up.

Nope. It's your idol. Even got him on tape admitting to it. Along with Kushner.

It is petty to withhold the briefings.

2 hours ago, Andy from Kent said:

Shouldn't your post be more directly pointed to the antics of Thump and his "Thump Team"?

Trump is responsible for a lot of bad things. But I don't think he is responsible for the totally outdated voting laws in many of the states. Those are laws in each state, not federal laws. And we can see that some states are able to handle the election a lot better than others.

Trump lost. But that would be even more obvious if all ballots would have been counted already.

7 hours ago, Tug said:

The name of the game is keep the country safe country over party gentlemen Joe Biden is president elect it’s a no brainer imo what dumbfounds me are the republicans quivering in fear of a mean tweet from trump!grow a pair for crying out loud let’s move forward 

He is not President-elect yet!  The media can not call the race.

 

In another blow for Trump, US election officials have declared “no evidence” of voter fraud, naming this election the “most secure” in history.

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/no-evidence-of-voter-fraud-found-us-election-officials-say/news-story/16514bfabc95509764f6508238e5b17c

7 hours ago, ballpoint said:

We already know the answer to that one.  Trump supporters have shown a desire to see the country go downhill as long as it means their man is in the White House.  They would be happy to see Biden flounder due to lack of preparedness, to the further detriment of the country, than see him succeed and the country prosper.

 

 

Yea right, speaking of the country going downhill it appears you haven't read the 110 page Manifesto that the Dem. put together. Read it, it's online than tell me how America is going to prosper.

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They should urge him to concede. Or, if he does not have the guts or courage to do so, and is not enough of a man to do it, he can assign the task to Mad Mitch. 

 

There is no path forward for him, at this stage. None. Zero. Nunca. Nada. Only obstruction, the erosion of democracy, humiliation, and defeat. He is an incredibly sad sack of a man. 

 

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11 hours ago, heybruce said:

I see.  You don't think that procedures established to benefit the nation with a smooth transition, procedures that were made available to Trump, should be extended to Biden. 

 

That's not what a patriotic American would do.  You are willing to hurt the nation in order to spite Biden. 

He is scared of investigations into his criminal activities when he leaves office. I saw an interview on MSNBC with Joyce Vance former US attorney, he will be prosecuted under state laws and must answer to private cases brought against him as well criminal cases. He has been asking White House officials about self pardons for himself and his family for a long time, well before the elections she says.

2 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

In another blow for Trump, US election officials have declared “no evidence” of voter fraud, naming this election the “most secure” in history.

 

Most secure in history? Now we know they are lying.

12 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Most secure in history? Now we know they are lying.

Well, if you say so. After all, why shouldn't we trust the unsupported word of an anonymous member of this forum?

17 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Most secure in history? Now we know they are lying.

Stop trolling

4 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Yea right, speaking of the country going downhill it appears you haven't read the 110 page Manifesto that the Dem. put together. Read it, it's online than tell me how America is going to prosper.

Its a wish list.

A good one.

Sure. Read it.

The democrats probably won't even control the senate so it will be hard to pass anything. 

 

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/08/889189235/democratic-task-forces-deliver-biden-a-blueprint-for-a-progressive-presidency

16 hours ago, teacherclaire said:

Biden, who is set to become the first Roman Catholic U.S. president since John Kennedy in the 1960s, spoke with the pope on Thursday, thanking him for his "blessing and congratulations," his transition team said.

 

Amazing. Please let religions out of anything that matters.  

Too late; Biden has already butted into UK/Irish Catholic problem. 

How desperate is that outgoing clown

 

Reports claim US President Donald Trump’s next move to reverse the results of the election is to directly target the US Electoral College.

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/how-donald-trump-could-hijack-the-election-results-through-the-electoral-college/news-story/753f0229a31faab307212a8f6d53eba8