chesterubi1 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Hi, I am planning to extend my Non-O Marriage Visa at the Chiang Mai Immigration office. Has anyone done this using a joint bank account and is it just a case of having double the required funds in the account. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overherebc Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 Your name only for two months before you apply. Joint names won't work. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, overherebc said: Your name only for two months before you apply. Joint names won't work. Edit: Some offices will accept a joint account that shows at least 1.6 million baht in it for a married couple. Wrote the requirement for retirement. For an extension based upon marriage it will not be accepted. Edited November 13, 2020 by ubonjoe corrected error 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterubi1 Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 Hi Ubonjoe, would it not be 800,000 in a Joint Account, which double the Marriage requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, chesterubi1 said: Hi Ubonjoe, would it not be 800,000 in a Joint Account, which double the Marriage requirement. Think was small slip. Yes 800k would be the amount. Have read that this was accepted at various io, but you would need check with your imm office. Edited November 13, 2020 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 So the easiest answer to all these questions is maybe, but, you must contact your local office and go with their answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 53 minutes ago, chesterubi1 said: Hi Ubonjoe, would it not be 800,000 in a Joint Account, which double the Marriage requirement. See my post since I edited it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Think was small slip. Yes 800k would be the amount. Have read that this was accepted at various io, but you would need check with your imm office. See the edit of my post. I had retirement on my mind. A joint account will not be accepted for a extension based upon marriage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Aylesham Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 3:34 PM, ubonjoe said: Edit: Some offices will accept a joint account that shows at least 1.6 million baht in it for a married couple. Wrote the requirement for retirement. For an extension based upon marriage it will not be accepted. I had the same experience for my retirement visa a couple of years back when Immig in Chiang Mai accepted a double deposit. Now (because of the medical insurance requirement) I've moved to a marriage visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 58 minutes ago, George Aylesham said: I had the same experience for my retirement visa a couple of years back when Immig in Chiang Mai accepted a double deposit. Now (because of the medical insurance requirement) I've moved to a marriage visa. You are aware that insurance requirement is just for O-A type visa entry? If using a normal marriage O visa entry you can use either extension without need of insurance (other than current COVID type requirements if not here currently). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I think also the 400,000bht in a Thai bank for marriage extension must show to have come from overseas, correct me if wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, maxcorrigan said: I think also the 400,000bht in a Thai bank for marriage extension must show to have come from overseas, correct me if wrong! Stand corrected..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamini Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, maxcorrigan said: I think also the 400,000bht in a Thai bank for marriage extension must show to have come from overseas, correct me if wrong! Never found this requirement for either a marriage Visa or a retirement Visa in the last 20 years. My money is all in Thailand either cash or in Thai shares. I've never been asked to prove that it's been imported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, maxcorrigan said: I think also the 400,000bht in a Thai bank for marriage extension must show to have come from overseas, correct me if wrong! Not correct. To obtain a non o retirement the money needs to come from o/s if the non o obtained in Thailand. Not required for non o marriage. Note for extensions to the non o retirement/marriage the money in bank does not need to shown coming from o/s Edited November 15, 2020 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, gamini said: Never found this requirement for either a marriage Visa or a retirement Visa in the last 20 years. My money is all in Thailand either cash or in Thai shares. I've never been asked to prove that it's been imported I think the letter required from the bank states that it originated from abroad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, maxcorrigan said: I think the letter required from the bank states that it originated from abroad! There is no requirement for proof the 400k baht came from abroad. Same for the 800k baht for a extension based upon retirement. Only a application for a non-o visa entry applied for at immigration requires proof that the 800 baht came from abroad for retirement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterubi1 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 I went to Chiang Mai Immigration today and can confirm that you can use a Joint Bank Account, for applying for a 1 year extension based on Marriage, as long as you have at least double the normally required funds. I went to the bank and got the necessary documents and have submitted my application without issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judokrab Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/15/2020 at 2:54 PM, maxcorrigan said: I think also the 400,000bht in a Thai bank for marriage extension must show to have come from overseas, correct me if wrong! Only required for the initial visa application - not required to come from overseas for extensions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 3:04 PM, chesterubi1 said: Hi, I am planning to extend my Non-O Marriage Visa at the Chiang Mai Immigration office. Has anyone done this using a joint bank account and is it just a case of having double the required funds in the account. Wouldn't be a lot simpler just opening a new single account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Neeranam said: Wouldn't be a lot simpler just opening a new single account? 1. You have to open the account - often an issue that requires time and paperwork. 2. You have an account that wife will not be able to access in the event of your death until court action taken (months later). 3. Another account to keep track of. On the other hand less chance of going below the required 400k by mistake and no question of immigration accepting if you use own name account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, lopburi3 said: On the other hand less chance of going below the required 400k by mistake and no question of immigration accepting if you use own name account. For the extension based upon marriage the wording of clause 2.18 states this and that makes it very easy for immigration to say no for a joint account. "(6) In the case of marriage to a Thai woman, the alien husband must earn an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month or must have no less than Baht 400,000 in a bank account in Thailand for the past two months to cover expenses for one year." And you have to remember that it has to be approved at the division level of immigration and they could deny it even if it was accepted by the local immigration office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: For the extension based upon marriage the wording of clause 2.18 states this and that makes it very easy for immigration to say no for a joint account. "(6) In the case of marriage to a Thai woman, the alien husband must earn an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month or must have no less than Baht 400,000 in a bank account in Thailand for the past two months to cover expenses for one year." Agree but then you can argue a joint account of 800k equals 400k being yours under Thailand joint property laws. But best not to go down that road and just have in your own account these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterubi1 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 Personally the whole thing is a Charade, Make a transaction and update bank book on the day 3 month or 1 year certified statement from the bank Letter from the bank to certify you are a true customer, despite the fact you have a certified statement and bank book And still they want to see the original Bank Book at immigration, just to make sure that all of the above is not forged. Ridiculous bureaucracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 hours ago, lopburi3 said: 1. You have to open the account - often an issue that requires time and paperwork. 2. You have an account that wife will not be able to access in the event of your death until court action taken (months later). 3. Another account to keep track of. On the other hand less chance of going below the required 400k by mistake and no question of immigration accepting if you use own name account. My wife can transfer funds from my account to hers quite easily. All she needs is my smartphone and a computer. If someone is that worried about their wife not getting money, they could set it up so that she has the private keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, chesterubi1 said: Personally the whole thing is a Charade, Make a transaction and update bank book on the day 3 month or 1 year certified statement from the bank Letter from the bank to certify you are a true customer, despite the fact you have a certified statement and bank book And still they want to see the original Bank Book at immigration, just to make sure that all of the above is not forged. Ridiculous bureaucracy Compared to other countries, it's rather easy, in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, Neeranam said: My wife can transfer funds from my account to hers quite easily. All she needs is my smartphone and a computer. If someone is that worried about their wife not getting money, they could set it up so that she has the private keys. Which would be fraud - until court decision she has not rights to money in your account and if bank is aware you are deceased the account will be locked. Yes it will often work but it is not something that should be depended upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtank Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/15/2020 at 2:54 PM, maxcorrigan said: I think also the 400,000bht in a Thai bank for marriage extension must show to have come from overseas, correct me if wrong! Wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 hours ago, fishtank said: Wrong. That is why i said THINK i was not sure, and have stood corrected in many posts by now!. thank you for your word it was very helpful! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Some years ago, I tried for my normal retirement visa extension at Mae Sai Immigration using joint account held with my wife. The I/O was absolutely adamant that 2 names on the account (in the bank book) required 800,000 Baht for each name, never mind that only one of those names wanted a visa. I seem to recall that she showed me some written regulation to back up her claim. Since then I have kept an account with only my name in the book, and never had any problems. This was the only time I have ever tried to use a joint account, so the rules might have changed. Also rules might be flexible, as often in Thailand, and depend on the I/O. I am not prepared to take the chance. I believe that following the written rules to the letter gives the I/O less scope for finding fault with any application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtank Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, maxcorrigan said: That is why i said THINK i was not sure, and have stood corrected in many posts by now!. thank you for your word it was very helpful! Glad to be of help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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