1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

IMO it's about money. As soon as Trump concedes, the flow of cash from gullible donors will dry up. So he will keep up the claim the election was stolen, when the facts say he actually got a record voter turnout for a losing candidate too.

I'm not sure about that.  Millions are leaving Fox News as it's become too "truthful" for them?  Not bashing the other side enough?  Not falling for Trump's lies like they use to?  Not sure, but OANN (which has been kicked off YouTube for conspiracy Theories) and Newsmax are now the choice for those who live in an alternate reality.  And these are the ones who still think the election was stolen and are still donating to Trump.

4 hours ago, webfact said:

"The transition is what is important. The words of President Trump are not quite as significant,"

Insignificant Trump should take heed. That's another possible trending twitter hashtag. 

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

I'm confident that this is just a ploy of President Trump's to catch the libs off guard and stage an end run around them on his way to the Supreme Court and his reelection.

Perhaps he has had a discrete "gypsy's  warning" that the Supreme Court are not going to play ball?

 

If so, any last minute "run around" is more likely to involve disrupting and obstructing the electoral college vote, (perhaps that is what all the courtroom and other  shenanigans are about), the aim being for the whole business to end up in Congress. One State one vote, bingo, home and dry!

Edited November 30, 20205 yr by herfiehandbag

1 hour ago, Srikcir said:

Not incredulous in Trump world.

He just inferred that the FBI and US Attorney General are part of the conspiracy to steal the election from Trump. 

Infamy, infamy, they have all got it in for me!

Little Donald is about to learn a final important lesson while still in office: Even judges and justices he has appointed are independent once on the bench. Expecting fealty from the judiciary is par for the course coming from this deluded madman, but back in the real world, only found in REAL banana republics.

I'm listening to the first interview 45 has done since the election on Fox. The bold faced lies are truly the ravings of a mad man. And the bologna coming from Maria Bartiromo ("... the facts are on your side") is just laughable. I can't believe she can spew that nonsense with a straight face.

Edited November 30, 20205 yr by J Town

2 minutes ago, J Town said:

I'm listening to the first interview 45 has done since the election on Fox. The bold faced lies are truly the ravings of a mad man. And the bologna coming from Maria Bartiromo ("... the facts are on your side") is just laughable. I can't believe she can spew that nonsense with a straight face.

Fox has to atone for correctly calling the  Arizona race.

1 minute ago, J Town said:

I'm listening to the first interview 45 has done since the election on Fox. The bold faced lies are truly the ravings of a mad man. And the bologna coming from Maria Bartiromo (" ... the facts are on your side") is just laughable. I can't believe she can spew that nonsense with a straight face.

I saw clips of that interview and it was surreal.  The sad part is that Maria Bartiromo was once a credible business reporter back in the day, admired and respected.  I confess that I used to have a mini crush on her when she was at CNBC.  Oh how far she has fallen.  She has sold her soul to the devil, just like Rudy.  It's true what someone said that "everything Trump touches dies."  A truly horrible human being. 

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not being pedantic, but, ‘Impeached, One Term Loser.’

If he loses this time it doesn't mean that he can't run in 2024. He may choose not to for the sake of his family, but if he does, won't that be a buzz for CNN- 4 more years to keep the ratings up, 4 more years of Trump, Trump, Trump. Don't think Biden will be happy with Trump looking over his shoulder waiting for the slightest mistake or slip up to berate him with, having big rallies to keep his base energised, and 4 years of beating the "stolen election" drum. Oh my, what a great thought- 4 years of putting the Democrats through what he has had the past 4 years- payback.

He might even start his own web based tv channel to constantly berate the Democrats. The best may be yet to come.

The election campaign begins January 21.

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If he loses this time it doesn't mean that he can't run in 2024. He may choose not to for the sake of his family, but if he does, won't that be a buzz for CNN- 4 more years to keep the ratings up, 4 more years of Trump, Trump, Trump. Don't think Biden will be happy with Trump looking over his shoulder waiting for the slightest mistake or slip up to berate him with, having big rallies to keep his base energised, and 4 years of beating the "stolen election" drum. Oh my, what a great thought- 4 years of putting the Democrats through what he has had the past 4 years- payback.

He might even start his own web based tv channel to constantly berate the Democrats. The best may be yet to come.

The election campaign begins January 21.

Trump was a huge boon for media outlets.  From both sides.  But IMHO, the dodgy conservative ones got the most benefit.  Though the NY Times reported incredible gains in readership.

 

Trump's history for a majority of Americans.  And will become less and less important over the coming months.  Just like all outgoing presidents.

 

Who beat the stolen election drum?  Only Trump's conspiracy theory loving base.  As reported by the dodgy right wing media.  Nobody on the left said it was stolen, just rigged by the dodgy EC...again.

 

Doubt Trump will live to 2024.  He's overweight, probably had a stroke recently, and has a horrible diet.  I'm no fan of Biden, but he sure looks better than Trump.

15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If he loses this time it doesn't mean that he can't run in 2024. He may choose not to for the sake of his family, but if he does, won't that be a buzz for CNN- 4 more years to keep the ratings up, 4 more years of Trump, Trump, Trump. Don't think Biden will be happy with Trump looking over his shoulder waiting for the slightest mistake or slip up to berate him with, having big rallies to keep his base energised, and 4 years of beating the "stolen election" drum. Oh my, what a great thought- 4 years of putting the Democrats through what he has had the past 4 years- payback.

He might even start his own web based tv channel to constantly berate the Democrats. The best may be yet to come.

The election campaign begins January 21.

The minute Trump leaves office he’s facing prosecution for State and Federal crimes, he’s also facing bankruptcy, his life is over.

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The minute Trump leaves office he’s facing prosecution for State and Federal crimes, he’s also facing bankruptcy, his life is over.

And a tax bill close to 100 million.  With a new AG in charge.  Can't wait to see how that turns out.  Turnaround is fair play now.

5 hours ago, AlexRich said:

What’s incredible is that there are people out there who actually believe Trump’s lies. 

This the part most puzzling to me. Even before his election trump made big claims about what he would do, could do, and swore to do. This has continued until this very day. 

 

Good enough. But here's the disconnect: 

In nearly every case of any consequence he has failed spectacularly to deliver. 

How is it that anybody with a functioning memory can continue to be aroused by his grandiose claims? 

 

Those supporters without a highly trained selective memory must be tragically disappointed in him and feel betrayed. 

He not only lost this election, he lost his entire term in office. Historians will not be kind to him. He has become nothing but a cautionary tale for wouldbe tyrants. 

It is now clear that he has not only lost touch with reality but he has lost the very concept of reality.

His psychological dissociation has begun. The deterioration will be swift descent to outright lunacy from here. 

 

But hey, I'm up for it. It will gain him a few more headlines over the coming months and a comic break from the virus news for the rest of us. Win win situation.

 

Don Jr and Eric have spent years perfecting their comedy routine and dear old dad still shows them up. Must be depressing for them. All around, it's a sad day in Mudville. 

 

5 hours ago, AlexRich said:

What’s incredible is that there are people out there who actually believe Trump’s lies. 

Yes, and there's a name for them - zebras.

 

According to the definition:

 

"Zebra stands for Zero Evidence But Really Adamant.

 

Zebras are people who see things in black and white. They are sure of their own opinions and they disdain information or science which undermines their beliefs. The king of the Zebras is Donald Trump."

39 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If he loses this time it doesn't mean that he can't run in 2024. He may choose not to for the sake of his family, but if he does, won't that be a buzz for CNN- 4 more years to keep the ratings up, 4 more years of Trump, Trump, Trump. Don't think Biden will be happy with Trump looking over his shoulder waiting for the slightest mistake or slip up to berate him with, having big rallies to keep his base energised, and 4 years of beating the "stolen election" drum. Oh my, what a great thought- 4 years of putting the Democrats through what he has had the past 4 years- payback.

He might even start his own web based tv channel to constantly berate the Democrats. The best may be yet to come.

The election campaign begins January 21.

Digging the hole called delusion ever deeper?

The foundation of his presidency was built on sand, and sand doesn't make good walls either. Just a warning. 

Now is the time to stop excavation and attempt to salvage personal integrity. 

 

As for best being yet to come, take heart in the fact that it can't get any worse than it is now for him......well, if we ignore the legal morass he is facing and his accelerating mental decline.

 

Now would be the right time for Melania to take a settlement and get out while he still has two dimes to rub together. Is it too late for her to cut a deal with the Witness Protection Program and just disappear?

 

Sadly, the rest of his family can't divorce him. With Rudi's help maybe they can push something  through the Supreme Court? Making history with family law could only enhance his legacy. 

A post commenting on the presidential election results in Arizona but including a questionable news report link relating to Nevada election results has been removed, along with replies.

 

13 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Yes, and there's a name for them - zebras.

 

According to the definition:

 

"Zebra stands for Zero Evidence But Really Adamant.

 

Zebras are people who see things in black and white. They are sure of their own opinions and they disdain information or science which undermines their beliefs. The king of the Zebras is Donald Trump."

Cool. Sounds like a good title for a documentary on the trump presidency :

 

The Zebra King. 

 

Or how about:

The Zebra Who Would Be King. 

7 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

and his accelerating mental decline.

For a minute I thought you were talking about Biden.

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

For a minute I thought you were talking about Biden.

Wow. Snappy. I really feel stupid now. 

 

But of course, once again you are mistakenly blinded by what you want to believe. 

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

For a minute I thought you were talking about Biden.

I've not seen any indication he's got a mental decline.  Maybe you care to enlighten us?  And please, no references to his stuttering.  He's had that since he was a child.

21 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

For a minute I thought you were talking about Biden.

I've not seen any indication he's got a mental decline.  Maybe you care to enlighten us?  And please, no references to his stuttering.  He's had that since he was a child.

Biden may not be as mentally sharp or quick-witted as he used to be.  Which makes him about 10 times more coherent and mentally capable than Trump.  After 4 years of Trump, the USA has no where to go but up under Biden. 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If he loses this time it doesn't mean that he can't run in 2024. He may choose not to for the sake of his family, but if he does, won't that be a buzz for CNN- 4 more years to keep the ratings up, 4 more years of Trump, Trump, Trump. Don't think Biden will be happy with Trump looking over his shoulder waiting for the slightest mistake or slip up to berate him with, having big rallies to keep his base energised, and 4 years of beating the "stolen election" drum. Oh my, what a great thought- 4 years of putting the Democrats through what he has had the past 4 years- payback.

He might even start his own web based tv channel to constantly berate the Democrats. The best may be yet to come.

The election campaign begins January 21.

Your premise is based on the assumption Trump will have funds to do all this with. He'll have creditors dunning him, and lawsuits aplenty to deal with. Unless lawyers have completely lost their marbles, they will all be demanding payment up front before they take on any case he is defending.

A web-based TV channel is a possibility, but again it takes money. After January 20, he won't be able to milk the American taxpayer.

It cost $3 million to run an unsuccessful challenge in Pennsylvania, his funding is drying up.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

For a minute I thought you were talking about Biden.

Oh come on. Look at any TV interview with Trump in the last month, he's babbling. Just lashes out if he gets a question he doesn't like. One-trick pony, I was robbed.

Biden might be 4 years older, but he is 100 times more coherent than Trump.

8 hours ago, webfact said:

 

Later, however, Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani reportedly told One America News Network that the legal team was still weighing which case might be appropriate to pursue at the top court.

Is Rudy stringing Trump along with false hopes so that he and his lawyers continue to reap the high wages he demanded. Trump is like a blind fool feed by false promises and advises. His interview with Maria Bartiroma illustrate and simply hilarious when told that his cases have no standing (locus standi) and he question as to why he as a President has no standing. Lol. This guy is a fool trying to be smart. 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If he loses this time it doesn't mean that he can't run in 2024. He may choose not to for the sake of his family, but if he does, won't that be a buzz for CNN- 4 more years to keep the ratings up, 4 more years of Trump, Trump, Trump. Don't think Biden will be happy with Trump looking over his shoulder waiting for the slightest mistake or slip up to berate him with, having big rallies to keep his base energised, and 4 years of beating the "stolen election" drum. Oh my, what a great thought- 4 years of putting the Democrats through what he has had the past 4 years- payback.

He might even start his own web based tv channel to constantly berate the Democrats. The best may be yet to come.

The election campaign begins January 21.

Be patient my boy the rolling stone ( court cases) hasn't stopped ! Still plenty of time to seek the truth ,after all its not official  for biden!

 

 

 

There's a little more light at the end of this funnel as Trump runs amok while running out of options.....

The Supreme Court wont be able to get that "massive dump" out of his diapers nor change the formula for his bottle so we're just going to have to let him cry himself to sleep until  2024

 

Trump blames his loss on ‘big massive dumps’ — and is now reportedly planning to kick off a 2024 campaign during Biden’s inauguration 

 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-blames-his-loss-on-big-massive-dumps-and-is-now-reportedly-planning-to-kick-off-a-2024-campaign-during-bidens-inauguration-11606669148

 

 

 

I'd like to be the first to sing him a lullaby

"Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey, goodbye"

 

Edited November 30, 20205 yr by Seth1a2a

How are Americans not toe-curlingly embarrassed by this complete and utter buffoon?

 

And before any Americans respond....yes as an Englishman I'm in the same boat as you re: Johnson.

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Oh my, what a great thought- 4 years of putting the Democrats through what he has had the past 4 years- payback.

 

You continually keep infering that Trump was somehow unfairly treated over the last 4 years when the reality (not something Trump fans like to work with we know) is that he brought all of it upon himself. 

·      He immediately went back on his promise to 'drain the swamp' by appointing the biggest bunch of millionaires and billionaires to his administration ever seen in US history (and then had a permanently revolving door when they upset him).

·      He silenced the Environmental Protection Agency by appointing their greatest critic (and climate change denier) to head it all up and immediately renaged on the Paris Climate Agreement.

·      His administration decided to charge everyone crossing the border with illegal entry rather than as the asylum seekers, thus allowing him to separate families and cage children.

·      He banned Muslims (from 'sh!thole' countries of course).

·      Although personally exonerated, the Muellers investigation proved a links between Russian interference and the Trump campaign (to include 5 convictions and 27 indictments) and when the full, unredacted report comes out after his lacky of an AG is removed, be prepared to see more of Trumps own involvement. 

·      He was rightfully impeached and let off by a compliant GOP Senate.

·      He mocked the disabled, encouraged his supporters to beat up protesters, got into Twitter fights with celebrities, dog whistled neo-Nazis and white supremacists, alienated allies whilst cosying up to Putin and "fell in love" with the dictator of North Korea.

·      He continued to profit from his businesses at the expense of the American taxpayer, whilst simultaneously refusing to reveal his tax returns.

·      He added $2 TRILLION dollars ($2,000,000,000,000) to the national debt just to help out his rich buddies and himself.

·      And of course his terrible handling of the pandemic that has seen him deny it, defer it and ignore it in equal measures to the detriment of 250,000 Americans and counting and now he is trying to undermine American democracy with unfounded allegations of voter fraud and conspracy theory after conspiracy theory that has made the US the laughing stock of the world. 

 

This man has been an absolute disgrace and deserves every single piece of bad press he got. If Biden and the Dems even do a 10th of what this man has done we will see you and every Trump supporter screaming blue murder but since Trump has set the bar so low and the complicit GOP has backed him every way, all it will smack of is profound hypocrisy.

 

You and 70 million Americans allowed this man to happen and it won't be forgotten in a hurry. Be prepared to have his antics thrown in your face the next time Biden does anything wrong because I can assure you whatever Biden does, it still won't be a patch on the actions this clown has been getting up to for the last 4 years.  

 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

For a minute I thought you were talking about Biden.

Obsessed with Biden much?

36 minutes ago, riclag said:

Be patient my boy the rolling stone ( court cases) hasn't stopped ! Still plenty of time to seek the truth ,after all its not official  for biden!

Sure. How's that "legal strike force" faring in the courts?