8 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

Good, but how about shutting down the business of the cross border Thai hookers, and gambling addicts?

No need to shut the business down just plug the hole in the fence.

I think that the majority of us are mainly interested in when the ASQ stops. IMO, the ASQ will continue for a while even after the borders reopen, which I think could happen around March or April next year.

The unelected "PM" and his soldiers will cash in on the ASQs for as long as they can.

Unfortunately they know exactly what they are doing. Destroying independant businesses with the intention of making Thailand socialist and eventually communist. It is even being attempted in the US with election fraud. Thailand and the world ais finished.

8 hours ago, sweetserenity said:

Until march? The vaccines are already being given to the western world.. Why can't they just allow vaccinated tourists to enter?

Because the unelected "PM" won't want his and his soldiers income stream from the ASQs to stop.

Just now, mjakob007 said:

8 hours ago, sweetserenity said:

Until march? The vaccines are already being given to the western world.. Why can't they just allow vaccinated tourists to enter?

Read some news about Pfizer concerns about possibility of vaccinated people infecting others, while they remain safe.

 

There may not be bullet proof solution yet..

17 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

What a completely ridiculous thing to say... of course getting the entire Thailand population vaccinated *will* make the problem go away, that is the whole point. Vaccines work and they prevent disease getting a foothold at anything over 60% efficacy

This forum sometimes...

 

 

Indeed, some make some utterly ridiculous posts don't they.

 

The vaccine being purchased by theThailand Government does NOT have a 100% efficacy rate (as you point out) so the problem will NOT go away as you claim..or do you not give a hoot about those potential 40% of the population (26.8 million)  being infected.

 

This forum sometimes...

Edited December 6, 20205 yr by Techno Viking

The minister lies. He only thinks about stupid Chinese. Who Thai traders don't give a second thought. There unwanteds. The only thing that is for sure. This gov won't get re elected.

9 hours ago, dbrenn said:

Excellent news. Mass tourism has spoilt Thailand's beauty, and I hope it's gone for good.

I'd love to comment. But it will be <deleted>

6 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

.....

It is called progress. The world changes.

 

The real question of course is how it's managed - but that's another story 

14 minutes ago, Techno Viking said:

 

Indeed, some make some utterly ridiculous posts don't they.

 

The vaccine being purchased by theThailand Government does NOT have a 100% efficacy rate (as you point out) so the problem will NOT go away as you claim..or do you not give a hoot about those potential 40% of the population (26.8 million)  being infected.

 

This forum sometimes...

It does not matter if it is not 100% efficient, that's not how vaccines work. They work because herd immunity is reached so stopping transmission of any disease through any given population. 

I think March next year is being optimistic and probably will extend further into next year, and even then certainly not like the previous 'normal". Why not just tell those who have lost almost everything that the gov. will provide alternatives for them and that hope for the return of mass tourism is fading fast. No, admitting the reality of the situation is something the gov. finds impossible to do, meanwhile people are hanging on by their teeth because tomorrow some other 'official' will declare a flood of tourists is expected. I bet there aren't any 'officials' wondering where money for their next meal is coming from.

I really am starting to think that the Thai Authorities have absolutely no idea at all on ways to open the Country up to Tourists, and are actually terrified of the thought..

Maybe its because they have stated so many times that the Medical Services are really top notch, everything is under control, and that there is a fail proof Track and Trace in place, along with an all kinds of other Chest expansion and various bluster.

All these things make the Country sound like its tested to Nuclear Destruction against this Covid thing, and to really open up the Borders again is going to blow dirty great holes in their wall of credibility so carefully engineered over the previous few Months

 

7 hours ago, Techno Viking said:

 

No vaccine is 100% effective, why take the risk of allowing potentially infected people enter.

 

Has there ever been a vaccine 100% effective? Should thailand just build a massive concrete wall and shun the world forever ?

7 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

'Mass tourism' probably enabled you and many other posters that live here, to come to Thailand in the first place.

Mass tourism enables cheap flights and accomodation. It helps to build the infrastructure that enables people to move around the country more easily.

Of course, those who came here earlier do not want to share paradise with the masses.

It was the same when I first came to Thailand (except I drove here). I built a house in the middle of nowhere and told my friends about this geat place that I had found. They told their friends, who told their friends and before you  know it, I am surrounded by more 100 houses. But at least I now have concrete road access, and reliable water and electricity supplies. There are even supermarkets now where I can buy decent bread! ????

It is called progress. The world changes.

Agree, all things must change. 

13 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

It does not matter if it is not 100% efficient, that's not how vaccines work. They work because herd immunity is reached so stopping transmission of any disease through any given population. 

 

Personally I'd prefer they keep the borders shut, Ive no desire to be part of a herd.

6 minutes ago, Gwen1234 said:

Has there ever been a vaccine 100% effective? Should thailand just build a massive concrete wall and shun the world forever ?

 

They do like their concrete but am sure other materials could be used.

Indeed, March is being optimistic, I think June or July is more likely

Just now, GrandPapillon said:

Indeed, March is being optimistic, I think June or July is more likely

I'd be ok with May that way the <deleted> up <deleted> won't ruin yet another Songkran.

Annexed until further notice and uncle P will provide some calming micro corn periodically  ????

8 hours ago, sweetserenity said:

Until march? The vaccines are already being given to the western world.. Why can't they just allow vaccinated tourists to enter?

Why ?? The vaccine is not proven to work. is it ?  It is not being given out in large numbers yet, It is a logistical nightmare to transport and keep it at -80c.   So realistically nobody actually knows if it will work. No way will I be getting it !   So who is in a hurry to go to Thailand ?  

5 hours ago, Phaser said:

Require proof of vaccine and open it up in March 

and stop the ASQs then also.

54 minutes ago, tomauasia said:

The minister lies. He only thinks about stupid Chinese. Who Thai traders don't give a second thought. There unwanteds. The only thing that is for sure. This gov won't get re elected.

Re elected?? The "PM" hasn't even been elected, never mind re elected. 

Much as I want to get back to the wife and daughter from the UK, I'm ok to wait to March if needs be.

 

Since the Uk wont really roll out the vaccine in mass to the public  until Feb/March anyway Thailand announcing March hardly dents any plans in my opinion. (Yes, I know they are giving it in mass to oldies and nurses now, but I doubt 100 year olds and nurses are about to hop on a plane in mass !)

 

10 hours ago, dbrenn said:

Excellent news. Mass tourism has spoilt Thailand's beauty, and I hope it's gone for good.

I agree with your assessment of the detriments of allowing any fool with a ticket to easily enter and run rampant. I personally have known beautiful locales throughout the world totally ruined by ignorant drunken fools, thankfully I experienced many prior to being ruined forever. Unfortunately greed tends to win out everywhere and I doubt it will be any different here though perhaps they can slow the decay by raising the standards for entry.  I also hope they don't open the doors till March 2022 when we'll know a lot more on the long term efficacy of these vaccines..

1 hour ago, Techno Viking said:

 

Indeed, some make some utterly ridiculous posts don't they.

 

The vaccine being purchased by theThailand Government does NOT have a 100% efficacy rate (as you point out) so the problem will NOT go away as you claim..or do you not give a hoot about those potential 40% of the population (26.8 million)  being infected.

 

This forum sometimes...

AZ vaccine 90% efficacy.

10 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

So will they continue to issue the TR60 for CoE "tourists"?

 

 

SShhhhhhhhhhh!

5 minutes ago, polpott said:

AZ vaccine 90% efficacy.

link.

This is a more realistic announcement and hope they work through the details for it to happen.

Travel bubbles with safe countries makes sense and should enable more people to get back to Thailand in March/April then increase from there.

The vaccines will make a huge psychological difference for conservative Thais and expats.

As a retired Aussie property owner in Thailand, I hope to be able to return after vaccination and no quarantine in March or April.

Edited December 6, 20205 yr by Donga

31 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Much as I want to get back to the wife and daughter from the UK, I'm ok to wait to March if needs be.

 

Since the Uk wont really roll out the vaccine in mass to the public  until Feb/March anyway Thailand announcing March hardly dents any plans in my opinion. (Yes, I know they are giving it in mass to oldies and nurses now, but I doubt 100 year olds and nurses are about to hop on a plane in mass !)

 

As more coin making opportunities arise what March year would you like it to be???? 

12 hours ago, rooster59 said:

These include business people such as technical experts, high level workers and those in the medical field, foreigners who are married to or a parent of a Thai national, property owners, retiree visa holders, Elite Card holders and those who enter Thailand under the Special Tourist Visa scheme - all of which have to undergo mandatory 14 day quarantine.

To the best of my knowledge, that statement is not true. I believe the 60 day tourist visa is now available again, in which case Thailand is now open again to anyone who is prepared to comply with the conditions such as quarantine, insurance etc.

 

I would have thought the Tourism Minister would be aware on the entry requirements.