Texas asks U.S. Supreme Court to help Trump upend election in long-shot lawsuit

[Jeffr2]

16 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Powell's SCOTUS cases weren't thrown out for lack of evidence.  In each of Powell's cases the dismissal was based on jurisdiction and pleading standards.  I doubt if most people here know the particulars of each and every case thus far filed and lost but they'll be sure to claim "no evidence" for every one of them and care not whether it's true or not.  Are you folks afraid of evidence of fraud?

They've been tossed with prejudice!  We'd love to see the evidence.  So far, none. 

 

If you know of evidence, why don't you share it here?  We'd love to see it.

[Jeffr2]

10 minutes ago, J Town said:

Standards be damned, if there was no evidence there was no case. That's in EVERY court case, it's the very core of a court decision - they're based on evidence. To say otherwise is specious and delusional.

It's stunning some don't get it.  Borders on trolling...

[IraqRon]

6 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

"Spurious" is the perfect word to describe these ongoing assaults on democracy as evidence in this silly TX R filing.

 

The drivel dragged up repeatedly since 3 Nov is that there are 'anomalies' in the way in which counted votes were added to the running tallies.  Nonsense.  Here are the facts:

 

These so-called anomalies are the direct result of pre-election actions by repub lawmakers.  Many States were prohibited from counting mail-in votes until the day of the election. Thus, what happened is that States election commissions tabulated first all the Election Day votes and set up the running tally. After the majority of Election Day votes were counted and tallied, only then were mail-in ballots opened and counted.

 

Because Democrats believed in the dangers of Covid, far more Dems chose to vote by mail (note that 45 his family, his AG and several other members of his Administration voted by mail). Thus, when those ballots were opened, it was no surprise that they tended heavily toward Biden. They were counted in batches, depending on the area they were sent, and then entered all at once into the running vote tally. Therefore, it is no surprise to anyone who dares to actually try to understand how the system worked that there would be large instant increases in the vote tally for Biden.

 

A cynic would guess that when the repubs set up the rules that prohibited counting mail-in ballots until Election Day, they knew full well how the votes would appear in the running tally, and they planned beforehand to raise doubts about something that the system they set up would cause to occur. They could then bark about 'one in ten trillion chance', when in fact it was both logical and expected.

 

 Yes it was expected, which is why Trump and his minion were against it and pushed the absurb claim that no ballots could be counted after midnight the last day of the election, even if postmarked before that time.  Which was part of the plan with his appointment of a political stooge and bag man supporter of his as head of the postal service. Luckily a federal court judge ruled against his orders and made them process all the ballots .

 

I really doubt any trump supporters on here can understand this as well as all the other facts pertaining to the election,.

[Tippaporn]

9 minutes ago, J Town said:

16 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Powell's SCOTUS cases weren't thrown out for lack of evidence.  In each of Powell's cases the dismissal was based on jurisdiction and pleading standards.  I doubt if most people here know the particulars of each and every case thus far filed and lost but they'll be sure to claim "no evidence" for every one of them and care not whether it's true or not.  Are you folks afraid of evidence of fraud?

Standards be damned, if there was no evidence there was no case. That's in EVERY court case, it's the very core of a court decision - they're based on evidence. To say otherwise is specious and delusional.

Absolutely false.  If a case brought before a court lacks standing then any evidence matters not.  In such instances the evidence is never even looked at.

 

Feel free to explain that the dismissal was due to lack of evidence.  If you can't then simply admit you're wrong.

[Jeffr2]

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

Absolutely false.  If a case brought before a court lacks standing then any evidence matters not.  In such instances the evidence is never even looked at.

 

Feel free to explain that the dismissal was due to lack of evidence.  If you can't then simply admit you're wrong.

Provide evidence of fraud or go away.  Petitions for adjudication mean nothing.  Only cases found in favor of finding voter fraud.

 

We're waiting...

[newnative]

Deeper into The Twilight Zone.  Poor America.  

[J Town]

BTW, The FBI recently opened a criminal investigation into claims that Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (the guy starting this idiocy) abused his office to benefit a wealthy donor. Could this be a setup for 45 to pre-emptively pardon him?

 

AP Explains: The FBI is investigating Texas AG Ken Paxton (apnews.com)

[GroveHillWanderer]

36 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Are you folks afraid of evidence of fraud?

I find it difficult to be afraid of something that doesn't exist, at least based on the total lack of it that has been presented in any of the  election-related lawsuits.

 

The election has been over for nearly 5 weeks now - if there were any proper evidence it would surely have been discovered and presented in one of the 50 or so lawsuits Trump's lawyers and supporters have filed so far. But it hasn't.

 

What does that tell you?

 

Trump And The GOP Have Now Lost 50 Post-Election Lawsuits

Edited December 9, 2020 by GroveHillWanderer

[Eric Loh]

4 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Absolutely false.  If a case brought before a court lacks standing then any evidence matters not.  In such instances the evidence is never even looked at.

 

Feel free to explain that the dismissal was due to lack of evidence.  If you can't then simply admit you're wrong.

You are confusing conspiracy theories and actual evidence. Judge made it clear that the rejection of Powell's request for injunctive relief were conspiracy theories and noting that the plaintiffs didn't give evidence. Eloquently expressed by the judge "an amalgamation of theories, conjecture and speculation..." So as it seem that you wrong and perhaps misguided by blind beliefs. 

[Somtamnication]

January 20th. at noon cannot come fast enough! Good riddance!

[Jeffr2]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/08/trump-lawyer-letter/

Letter from 1,500 attorneys says Trump campaign lawyers don’t have ‘license to lie’

“President Trump’s barrage of litigation is a pretext for a campaign to undermine public confidence in the outcome of the 2020 election, which inevitably will subvert constitutional democracy,” the letter says. “Sadly, the President’s primary agents and enablers in this effort are lawyers, obligated by their oath and ethical rules to uphold the rule of law.”

[Jeffr2]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/24/rudy-giuliani-disbar/

Congressman seeks to have Rudolph Giuliani disbarred over attempts to overturn election

Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-N.J.) filed complaints on Friday in five states against Giuliani and 22 other lawyers working with the Trump campaign, calling for them to be stripped of their law licenses for filing “frivolous” lawsuits and allegedly engaging in “conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit, or misrepresentation.”

“Donald Trump has done great damage to this nation — but he has always had helpers. These lawyers are enabling his treachery and harming our democracy,” Pascrell told The Post through a spokesperson Monday. He called the campaign legal team’s effort to overturn election results with frivolous lawsuits "misconduct and an affront to the rule of law.”

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36 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Powell's SCOTUS cases weren't thrown out for lack of evidence.  In each of Powell's cases the dismissal was based on jurisdiction and pleading standards.  I doubt if most people here know the particulars of each and every case thus far filed and lost but they'll be sure to claim "no evidence" for every one of them and care not whether it's true or not.  Are you folks afraid of evidence of fraud?

This is like someone asserting that his wife never said she divorced him because he was an alcoholic. It was because he was a drug addict.

[Caldera]

They should be dealt with like traitors, because that's what they are for undermining the public's trust in the democratic process / elections.

[Chomper Higgot]

41 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Powell's SCOTUS cases weren't thrown out for lack of evidence.  In each of Powell's cases the dismissal was based on jurisdiction and pleading standards.  I doubt if most people here know the particulars of each and every case thus far filed and lost but they'll be sure to claim "no evidence" for every one of them and care not whether it's true or not.  Are you folks afraid of evidence of fraud?

OK so Trump and his supporters claim fraud, but haven’t yet produced evidence and you object to those who oppose him ‘claiming no evidence’.

 

The basis of your objection is there might have been evidence in submissions to the courts that we none of us have seen.

 

[welovesundaysatspace]

37 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Are you folks afraid of evidence of fraud?

Since 50 failed lawsuits didn’t find any evidence of fraud, there’s nothing to be afraid of. It’s quite reassuring when so many courts confirm a safe election. 

[Jeffr2]

Well, some good news.  The GOP is turning on themselves.  Love it.  Hopefully, this will have an impact on the GA senate races.  Fingers crossed!  And I'm a former member of the GOP!  Insane times.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/us/arizona-ducey-republicans.html

After Trump’s Loss in Arizona, State Republicans Hurl Insults at One Another

A top Republican told the governor to “shut the hell up.” Another official described a lawmaker as a resident of “Crazytown.” All this in a state where the party recently reigned supreme.

[xylophone]

48 minutes ago, J Town said:

Standards be damned, if there was no evidence there was no case. That's in EVERY court case, it's the very core of a court decision - they're based on evidence. To say otherwise is specious and delusional.

And to add to that............

 

Legal experts have shredded an audacious new lawsuit challenging the results of America's presidential election in four swing states, calling it the "craziest" and "dumbest" case of the entire post-election period.

 

Professor Rick Hasen, an election law expert at the University of California, said Paxton's lawsuit may have replaced the one filed by Congressman Mike Kelly in Pennsylvania as "the dumbest case I've ever seen filed on an emergency basis at the Supreme Court".

"This is a press release masquerading as a lawsuit," Hasen said.

"What utter garbage. Dangerous garbage, but garbage."

 

US election: Legal experts label latest Trump lawsuit the 'dumbest' they've ever seen - NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-election-legal-experts-label-latest-trump-lawsuit-the-dumbest-theyve-ever-seen/ETROAN4IAKT2PMIVPSICQHA2HI/ 

[Jonnapat]

Beyond ridiculous. At some point this farcical situation must end. Every day reveals something more absurd than the previous day.

[Sujo]

32 minutes ago, xylophone said:

And to add to that............

 

Legal experts have shredded an audacious new lawsuit challenging the results of America's presidential election in four swing states, calling it the "craziest" and "dumbest" case of the entire post-election period.

 

Professor Rick Hasen, an election law expert at the University of California, said Paxton's lawsuit may have replaced the one filed by Congressman Mike Kelly in Pennsylvania as "the dumbest case I've ever seen filed on an emergency basis at the Supreme Court".

"This is a press release masquerading as a lawsuit," Hasen said.

"What utter garbage. Dangerous garbage, but garbage."

 

US election: Legal experts label latest Trump lawsuit the 'dumbest' they've ever seen - NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-election-legal-experts-label-latest-trump-lawsuit-the-dumbest-theyve-ever-seen/ETROAN4IAKT2PMIVPSICQHA2HI/ 

But we are being told its.going to be monumental.

[ChouDoufu]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

Absolutely false.  If a case brought before a court lacks standing then any evidence matters not.  In such instances the evidence is never even looked at.

 

Feel free to explain that the dismissal was due to lack of evidence.  If you can't then simply admit you're wrong.

 

you're correct, in a twisted sort of way.  these lawsuits were never designed to be winned, rather the plan was for them to be thrown out due to lack of standing or filing irregularities.

 

that allows the trump cult to claim the deep state refuses to even look at the evidence, lets them claim hugo chavez is covering up iranian and russian and chinese malign influence.....lets them keep collecting those scrumptious donor checks that much longer.

 

the very last thing these snake oil salesmen want is for the court to review the, ahem, "evudints."

 

but here in the real world........the transition continues, preparations for the inauguration are ongoing, and multiple state attorneys general are eagerly anticipating fresh roadkill.

[wwest5829]

6 hours ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

It´s high time to check if Trump is not spreading a more dangerous virus rhan Covid-19. Just take in the clowns in Texas for a couple of scientific experiments to find out.

Or maybe the whole state is infected with stupidity.

It will get worse in Texas as they are experiencing more folks from the West Coast moving into the state. Why worse? Because conservatives will try to stop the political scene moving further away from their thinking.

[ChouDoufu]

1 hour ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

What will Trump be remembered by in the future. Swamp Drainer. Wall Guy,  Covid

Denier.  Maybe he will not be remembered at all.  It will be a nice day, when he is

only seen on a few golf courses.

Geezer

 

he'll be remembered.

 

biden should declare a new national holiday, sort of like anzac day or memorial day.  this will be where hundreds of thousands of families will gather in cemeteries and places of worship to mourn the loss of family members due to the confeve flu.

[onthedarkside]

A post with a LONG quote of Wikipedia content has been removed for violating the forum's fair use quoting policy -- generally limiting quoted content here to a headline and 3 sentences of content along with a link to the original source.

 

Also removed was an off-topic post re Sec. of State Mike Pompeo.

 

[herfiehandbag]

40 minutes ago, Sujo said:

But we are being told its.going to be monumental.

Monumental is the new buzz word is it?

 

Sydney Powell said it was going to be "biblical", but that was before her cases were binned by assorted courts!

 

 

[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Since 50 failed lawsuits didn’t find any evidence of fraud, there’s nothing to be afraid of. It’s quite reassuring when so many courts confirm a safe election. 

51 now. So much losing we lose count. It’s beyond embarrassing. 

[Scott Tracy]

Jeepers.

 

As a non US citizen, I think the whole issue of the Presidential election is a farce. So much for the big democracy thing. This is more like a comic tragedy.

[Walker88]

51 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

51 now. So much losing we lose count. It’s beyond embarrassing. 

Saw this Tweet, which pretty much sums things up:

 

So either Clarence Thomas, Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh, Neil Gorsuch, Samuel Alito, Brian Kemp, Doug Ducey, the FBI, the CIA, and the entire state Republican Parties of Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are part of a deep state conspiracy

 

or

 

Trump lost.

[riclag]

18 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

Jeepers.

 

As a non US citizen, I think the whole issue of the Presidential election is a farce. So much for the big democracy thing. This is more like a comic tragedy.

This is part of the process(democracy thing) ! My country has a long history of contesting elections

https://theconversation.com/history-tells-us-that-a-contested-election-wont-destroy-american-democracy-149503

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2 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Saw this Tweet, which pretty much sums things up:

 

So either Clarence Thomas, Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh, Neil Gorsuch, Samuel Alito, Brian Kemp, Doug Ducey, the FBI, the CIA, and the entire state Republican Parties of Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are part of a deep state conspiracy

 

You got a problem with that?