Tabien Baan.

[Neeranam]

8 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

I can only assume you don’t have a yellow book and your post is just your opinion. My experience has shown me it’s very useful in simplifying lots of different things I need or want to do. If you had one you’d know!

Can you give an example?

[tomazbodner]

First time I was getting entered into blue book, I needed 2 witnesses. Second and third time I needed none. Admittedly, first time was different khet than 2nd and 3rd time, so that confirms what Joe stated.

 

As for certified copies of passport when they are holding an original, and a translation of it....? Never heard of something like that. Although - the name in the tabien baan and pink ID needs to be in Thai, so it's possible they want translation of that? From what I read, foreigners without PR can get pink ID. In blue Tabien Baan surely name needs to be written in Thai. Not sure about yellow one as I've never had one.

[Neeranam]

 

 

3 hours ago, Robin said:

it is also something to show off to other Farangs who do not have one.

 

Do they take them down the pub?

[Fairynuff]

9 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Can you give an example?

No

[Tanoshi]

10 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Can you give an example?

Gone are the days of requiring a 'certificate of residence' from Immigration or your Embassy.

 

Just a few examples of how my Tabien Baan and ID card have worked for me.

1. Bought and registered two motor vehicles.

2. Sold one motor vehicle.

3. Bought and registered 3 motorcycles.

4. Opened a Savings account at Kasikorn bank.

5. Registered at my local government hospital.

6. Presenting my Thai ID card at places operating a duel pricing system, I've always been charged the Thai price.

7.Registered with Inland revenue to reclaim tax paid from interest deductions.

 

Just yesterday I visited a private clinic for a check, consultation and treatment.

Standing charge is 300 baht Thais, 500 baht Foreigners. I paid 300 baht on production of my Thai ID card.

At my local government hospital for consultation and treatment (not medication) I am always charged 50 baht.

 

I must admit that when I obtained my Yellow book and Thai ID card for foreigners, only a translation of my Passport was required, which I translated myself and was accepted. The book and card was issued within 30 minutes at a cost of 10 baht for the plastic protective card cover.

Even today with the often requirements to have Embassy certified copies of your Passport and translations legalised by the MFA, knowing what I now know in the usefulness of having these documents (time and cost savings), I'd still consider it worthwhile jumping through the initial hoops.

 

At the end of the day it's a personal choice and decision and criticism shouldn't be aimed at anyone who has, or has not bothered to try and integrate into the Thai way and system of doing things by obtaining a Yellow book and ID card for foreigners as proof of address and ID.

[The Fugitive]

22 hours ago, OJAS said:

 

You could, if you had wished, have obtained a duplicate birth certificate in long form including your parents' details from the GRO in Milton Keynes. That's what I did when DWP mislaid my original short form birth certificate which I had submitted to them as part of my State Pension application a few years ago. But probably not worth the hassle just for a yellow book as you say - particularly if your "beloved" amphur were then to insist on the duplicate certificate also being verified by the Embassy, who, for their part, would inform you that they were unable to do this and that you would need to submit yourself to the dreaded legalisation process as described in all its cumbersomely bureaucratic detail in the link below!

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/714089/Legalisation_info_June_2018.pdf

 

Many thanks for thinking of this and warning me! We had already been to the UK Embassy for a certified copy of my passport for marriage in Thailand purposes. The amphur 'bless 'em' then told me I had to go back for another one plus my birth certificate this time! That was why I gave up. As you kindly advise it's actually an extra step ontop of that!

[Tanoshi]

1 hour ago, The Fugitive said:

Many thanks for thinking of this and warning me! We had already been to the UK Embassy for a certified copy of my passport for marriage in Thailand purposes. The amphur 'bless 'em' then told me I had to go back for another one plus my birth certificate this time! That was why I gave up. As you kindly advise it's actually an extra step ontop of that!

I can understand why many simply give up due to additional requests from their Amphur, but I believe that's because that particular Amphur doesn't know what their doing, which doesn't help the applicant.

 

Re UK Birth certificates, a friend who's Amphur requested an Embassy certified copy and translation, legalised by the MFA, then refused it as it didn't have his parents name on it (parents named required for Tabien Baan).

He duly request the full version of birth certificate from the UK (detailing parents names) which again had to be Embassy certified, translated and legalised by the MFA, thought he'd finally cracked it.

They refused the full birth certificate because at the the top it states 'Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth'.

They requested the original, not a 'copy'. No amount of explanation could persuade them otherwise.

 

I'd have given up as well.

[The Fugitive]

47 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

I can understand why many simply give up due to additional requests from their Amphur, but I believe that's because that particular Amphur doesn't know what their doing, which doesn't help the applicant.

 

Re UK Birth certificates, a friend who's Amphur requested an Embassy certified copy and translation, legalised by the MFA, then refused it as it didn't have his parents name on it (parents named required for Tabien Baan).

He duly request the full version of birth certificate from the UK (detailing parents names) which again had to be Embassy certified, translated and legalised by the MFA, thought he'd finally cracked it.

They refused the full birth certificate because at the the top it states 'Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth'.

They requested the original, not a 'copy'. No amount of explanation could persuade them otherwise.

 

I'd have given up as well.

No excuse. However you look at it. He couldn't produce the original because he'd never been issued with one in that format. That Amphur needs stuffing with a rag mans trumpet, bell end first! 

[Neeranam]

4 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

I must admit that when I obtained my Yellow book and Thai ID card for foreigners, only a translation of my Passport was required, which I translated myself and was accepted. The book and card was issued within 30 minutes at a cost of 10 baht for the plastic protective card cover.

I also have translated some things by myself; there is no certified translation body in Thailand.

That pink thing is not a Thai ID card. It is a Non-Thai ID card(plainly stated on the front).

2 days ago, I got a Thai ID card(which is blue) and only paid 5 baht for the plastic cover. 

 

[KhaoNiaw]

11 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I also have translated some things by myself; there is no certified translation body in Thailand.

This is true. Did you get a stamp made up or just sign the translation? I got a stamp done years ago and it's never been a problem for doing my own translations. 

[Neeranam]

4 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

This is true. Did you get a stamp made up or just sign the translation? I got a stamp done years ago and it's never been a problem for doing my own translations. 

I thought of getting a stamp but haven't yet, just used my name and telephone number.

 

Actually, I'm thinking of starting a little business to translate things, so a stamp would be a good idea, to make people think I am certified! 

[Fairynuff]

16 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

to make people think I am certified! 

Yeah you should definitely be certified ????????????

[Tanoshi]

1 hour ago, The Fugitive said:

No excuse. However you look at it. He couldn't produce the original because he'd never been issued with one in that format. That Amphur needs stuffing with a rag mans trumpet, bell end first! 

The names of Mother and Father are required for the Tabien Baan.

UK issued original birth certificates do not give that information, only your name and DOB.

The full version, which can be requested, does contain the details of the Mother and Father, but the information is taken from the register so is therefore titled 'certified copy of an entry of birth (from the register).

The birth certificate is original, the entries are copied, but explain that to an Amphur.

[Tanoshi]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

I also have translated some things by myself; there is no certified translation body in Thailand.

That pink thing is not a Thai ID card. It is a Non-Thai ID card(plainly stated on the front).

2 days ago, I got a Thai ID card(which is blue) and only paid 5 baht for the plastic cover. 

 

So your a Thai national, obviously registered in a blue book with blue Thai ID card.

I'm sure you'll use these to great effect in the coming years.

For those without Thai nationality, the Yellow book and Thai ID card for foreigners are better than constant fees for Certificates of residence, but each to their own.

[Neeranam]

6 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

So your a Thai national, obviously registered in a blue book with blue Thai ID card.

I'm sure you'll use these to great effect in the coming years.

For those without Thai nationality, the Yellow book and Thai ID card for foreigners are better than constant fees for Certificates of residence, but each to their own.

Exactly, weigh the pros and cons of getting a yellow book. The only cons are the slight inconvenience of getting it. 

For some there are no benefits, esp if they have DL or WP.  For some, who buy sell cars and are not married, it would help. 

I doubt the majority of expats would need more than 2 or 3 residency certs., which are actually free, but annoying having to go to immigration and hassle them. 

The pink card helped me a couple of times, saved me taking my passport. 

Some I've met seem to think they are Thai in some way, which is untrue, it actually points out that they aren't. They were made originally for migrant workers. I remember one Burmese roti seller friend saying "oh you're the same as me now"! 

[ubonjoe]

This topic has run its course since it has turned into a typical repeat of a discussion about a yellow house book that has been done dozens of times before. Topic now