webfact Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 GLO announces bounty to nail lottery price gougers By THE NATION The Government Lottery Office (GLO) has come out with a Bt1,000 cash reward for citizens who provide information on lottery price gouging, while officials who make arrests will be rewarded according to the fine in each case but not exceeding Bt2,000, director-general Boonsong Jantrisri said on Wednesday. “We hope the cash reward will encourage people to become the eyes and ears for officials and consequentially stop sellers from raising the price above the legal limit,” he said. The GLO is also revising the penalty for lottery price gouging, which had been stipulated in the Government Lottery Office Act of 1974 and states that offenders will face Bt2,000 in fines. “We aim to increase the fine to Bt10,000 to discourage would-be offenders,” Boonsong said. He added that in the past four year (2017-2020), 22,153 lottery price gougers were arrested nationwide – 2,339 in 2017, 6,240 in 2018, 7,527 in 2019 and 6,047 last year. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30402218 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2021-02-04 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 If they had a better distribution system, instead of selling the majority of tickets to rich Mr Bigs, who sell them on to the poor sellers, leaving a very small margin for profit for the small sellers, it could solve a lot of the problems. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fangless Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 It might have helped if they had stated what the legal prices are meant to be! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, webfact said: 22,153 lottery price gougers were arrested nationwide – 2,339 in 2017, 6,240 in 2018, 7,527 in 2019 and 6,047 Are these the lucky numbers for the next lottery? 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 The small ticket vendors make almost no money.....100 baht a ticket should be the correct price....... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post condobrit001 Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 3 hours ago, fangless said: It might have helped if they had stated what the legal prices are meant to be! The legal price is printed on each ticket and is 80 Baht for a pair of two. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunpeer Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 also here creating a "snitch-society"! if those officials did their job right there would not be any price-difference... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CharlieH Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 As with most things here absolutely pointless if there is no effective Police enforcement and realistic penalties.. There is NO active enforcement in almost anything! Hence the pleae for the public to help. But will they follow up ? As there is a "payoff" it might work, "officials who make arrests will be rewarded according to the fine in each case but not exceeding Bt2,000," For doing their damn job !!! You couldnt make this stuff up ...555 " 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ronaldo0 Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 You just wonder why they don’t set it up online . Is it distrust of those running it or is it the putting sellers out of work ? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Why do they need reports, I'm in Pattaya and I have seen ฿80 price once in 3 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: If they had a better distribution system, instead of selling the majority of tickets to rich Mr Bigs, who sell them on to the poor sellers, leaving a very small margin for profit for the small sellers, it could solve a lot of the problems. But but but but... there's got to be middlemen !!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overt2016 Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 Wasn't it one of PM P's promises to rein it in? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 6 hours ago, redwood1 said: The small ticket vendors make almost no money.....100 baht a ticket should be the correct price....... It is around here. Sorry, it is the normal price around here that the wife happily pays (maybe she has too much money) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Burma Bill Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 The correct price is 80 baht per ticket and when I lived in Thailand (pre Covid-19), were readily available at that price at most large supermarkets such as Tesco (where I used to buy mine), BigC and MAKRO. Living out in the sticks, for me the better value was the illegal "village" lottery based on the winning numbers of the legal lottery. It offered "odds" on how much you paid, from 1 baht upwards (50 baht for me) per number selection. I have won two 30,000 baht "prizes" and several smaller, but substantial, amounts during my time and far more than I did on the legal lottery. In the village we could also bet on the Singapore lottery. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dazinoz Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, condobrit001 said: The legal price is printed on each ticket and is 80 Baht for a pair of two. I guess you haven't bought a ticket in awhile. They have not been in pairs for over a year now. Single ticket, 6 million baht first prize. You can buy multiple tickets. A "pair" of tickets would win 12 million and usually cost 200 baht. Edited February 4, 2021 by Dazinoz 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoNiaw Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Burma Bill said: The correct price is 80 baht per ticket and when I lived in Thailand (pre Covid-19), were readily available at that price at most large supermarkets such as Tesco (where I used to buy mine), BigC and MAKRO. Living out in the sticks, for me the better value was the illegal "village" lottery based on the winning numbers of the legal lottery. It offered "odds" on how much you paid, from 1 baht upwards (50 baht for me) per number selection. I have won two 30,000 baht "prizes" and several smaller, but substantial, amounts during my time and far more than I did on the legal lottery. In the village we could also bet on the Singapore lottery. That's not just a village thing, very easy to find someone to take your numbers in Bangkok. A lot of people buy a ticket or two for the official lottery but put a whole lot more on the underground version. 90 baht's the best price around here but everyone knows the vendors aren't price-gouging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoNiaw Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Just now, KhaoNiaw said: That's not just a village thing, very easy to find someone to take your numbers in Bangkok. A lot of people buy a ticket or two for the official lottery but put a whole lot more on the underground version. 90 baht's the best price around here (single ticket) but everyone knows the vendors aren't price-gouging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackdd Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 In case somebody doesn't understand how this works, because the OP is as always quite lacking: If somebody wants to sell lottery tickets they have to get a license from the government. These licenses are limited and difficult to get. (I'm not certain about this, but would suspect that they are sold on for quite significant amounts of money, from old seller to new seller, same as motorbike taxi licenses) When somebody has such a license he can buy the tickets for about 70THB (which he pays to the government), and is allowed to sell them on for 80THB (the official price), unsold tickets can be returned before the deadline and they pay only for sold tickets. To increase their income they find "employees" who run around selling tickets. But in this case the license holder demands to get 90THB per ticket sold from his "employee", because he is greedy and wants to make extra profit. Thus the "employee" tries to sell the tickets for 100THB, so he earns 10THB per ticket, and the license holder earns about 20THB per ticket sold by his "employee". Instead of targeting the license holders (often wealthy people, made from exploiting people who have not much choice) who are breaking the law by sending out people to sell tickets for 100THB, the Thai government picks on the easy target, the "employee" who makes 10THB for a 100THB sale. If he wouldn't be selling tickets he would often sit on the street begging, or maybe collecting empty bottles. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinthebox Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Burma Bill said: Living out in the sticks, for me the better value was the illegal "village" lottery based on the winning numbers of the legal lottery. It offered "odds" on how much you paid, from 1 baht upwards (50 baht for me) per number selection. I have won two 30,000 baht "prizes" and several smaller, but substantial, amounts during my time and far more than I did on the legal lottery. In the village we could also bet on the Singapore lottery. have you really been paid off before? I always thought this black lottery was a complete scam. I can not imagine a "village-kingpin" handing out the lottery prize in cash to a farang. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 22 hours ago, fangless said: It might have helped if they had stated what the legal prices are meant to be! 80 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted February 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2021 15 hours ago, ronaldo0 said: You just wonder why they don’t set it up online . Is it distrust of those running it or is it the putting sellers out of work ? If it was totally online the avenue for corruption and employment would be gone... that's not the Thai way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Burma Bill Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 16 hours ago, jackinthebox said: have you really been paid off before? I always thought this black lottery was a complete scam. I can not imagine a "village-kingpin" handing out the lottery prize in cash to a farang. Yes, always got my winnings in cash, never a problem and not a scam. One of my 30,000 baht wins was in 20,50,100 and 500 baht notes handed to me in a plastic bag. The local "kingpin" was a family member!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, DefaultName said: Why do they need reports, I'm in Pattaya and I have seen ฿80 price once in 3 years. Out side, side entrance to Big-C Sukhumvit Jomtiem ( car park area) 80 baht Chaiyaphruek 2, Jomtiem right hand side, just after market, but before railway line, road side seller. Some times, Lotus Sukhumvit, Jomtien, just inside right hand entrance. Edited February 5, 2021 by quake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condobrit001 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 19 hours ago, Dazinoz said: I guess you haven't bought a ticket in awhile. They have not been in pairs for over a year now. Single ticket, 6 million baht first prize. You can buy multiple tickets. A "pair" of tickets would win 12 million and usually cost 200 baht. I don't know what planet you live on, but Thai lottery tockets are sold in pairs (40 Bhat X 2 = 80 Bhat). 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 20 minutes ago, condobrit001 said: I don't know what planet you live on, but Thai lottery tockets are sold in pairs (40 Bhat X 2 = 80 Bhat). They stopped selling them in the way you describe quite a few years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 33 minutes ago, condobrit001 said: I don't know what planet you live on, but Thai lottery tockets are sold in pairs (40 Bhat X 2 = 80 Bhat). 1 for 80 baht here in Chiang Mai (A different planet) at many vendors and has been for sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dazinoz Posted February 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, condobrit001 said: I don't know what planet you live on, but Thai lottery tockets are sold in pairs (40 Bhat X 2 = 80 Bhat). You are the one on a different planet. How about checking your facts before accusing someone else of being on another planet. At least 2 people have said same thing. Edited February 5, 2021 by Dazinoz 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazinoz Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Thailand said: 1 for 80 baht here in Chiang Mai (A different planet) at many vendors and has been for sometime. Same planet as far as lottery tickets are sold. Its condobrit001 who is on the different planet. Maybe his village still sells in pairs and wonders why he doesn't win. 2 minutes ago, Dazinoz said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 50 minutes ago, condobrit001 said: I don't know what planet you live on, but Thai lottery tockets are sold in pairs (40 Bhat X 2 = 80 Bhat). I suggest you do some homework, they have officially been 80 Baht per ticket for many years, I don't begrudge giving a poor ticket seller 100 Baht. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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