Deez Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Nong Khai Man said: So NO Tourists Anytime SOON,Then ?? Not unless they want to blame them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Two trolling comment posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 41 minutes ago, anchadian said: Thong Lor - the source where it all started. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/manager-of-two-thonglor-pubs-sentenced-to-two-months-in-prison/ Manager of two Thonglor pubs sentenced to two months in prison The manager of two pubs, in Bangkok’s Thonglor area, which were blamed as the source of the current Thonglor COVID-19 cluster, has been sentenced to two months in prison, without suspension. Pol Maj-Gen Sophon Sarapat, commander of the 5th division of Metropolitan Police Bureau, said today (Sunday) that the manager of the Krystal Club and Emerald pub was arraigned before the Bangkok South District Court on Friday, for allegedly violating the Entertainment Venue Act and the Emergency Decree. He said that the two nightspots may face closure for up to five years. Are these clubs not owned by Chauvit? How can they convict someone so quickly when they can not even convict one of their own MP's. Don't answer that as it was a rhetorical question. If the clubs had been following all of the guidelines and someone was infected is that enough to convict the manager for a violation of the emergency decree, even if the person that passed on the infection was asymptomatic. Sorry, just playing devils advocate here, as it appears there is a very big double standard for those in power and those not in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Not sure if this has been posted somewhere already but an extra 281 people tested positive in Chiang Mai today, this to go on tomorrows count. (Richard Barrow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Not sure if this has been posted somewhere already but an extra 281 people tested positive in Chiang Mai today, this to go on tomorrows count. (Richard Barrow) I saw that. I am waiting for the knock on my door, as we just returned from Chiang Mai on Friday, before the explosion of cases. As I pointed out we are self isolating now and had planned to anyway because of the uptick in cases here in Bangkok. The irony of it all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 Accurate figures of course. How are you fan boys going with this. Thailand still No. 1? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, geisha said: Hi, where do you see the news of a new Cambodian virus which is not the UK or any other varient ? All the variants declared so far have been UK originating from Chinese and Indian arrivals in Feb / March. The "news" was in the news report quoted in the post you were replying to. The Thai virology expert is saying the strain circulating in TH now matches 100% with the strain now circulating in Cambodia, which is different to some extent from the original UK strain... so he says. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: There are varying estimates for death rates related to the coronavirus, depending on the country, population etc. But if Thailand did nothing and just let the virus spread at will, that could mean a very large CV death toll in a country of 70 million people. If Thailand ended up with the same death rate thus far as the U.S.. (now 575,000+ and counting out of 300 million), that would be about 140,000 deaths in Thailand. (0.2% of the population), if I did my math right. If all things were equal then you would be correct. Age plays a large factor in the group of people who die from this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 hours ago, John Drake said: Great. I have these symptoms most of the time anyway. Yeah and when I was younger part of my anatomy had the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, ukrules said: If all things were equal then you would be correct. Age plays a large factor in the group of people who die from this issue. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkktodd Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Pilotman said: good Oh really? The tourists allowed (expats included) are tested and retested whilst spending time in quarantine. My mate lives in Pattaya...he sees 9 outa 10 farangs NOT wearing masks. Are You one of them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 There was no EN version of the entire Thailand province by province new cases report issued today that I saw... But I'll post the Thai version of that list, which (for those who don't read Thai) at least gives folks an indication of how new coronavirus cases, albeit for now in small numbers, are beginning to be recorded almost everywhere in the country. https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/303961047888893 Some of the larger case counts for today by province were previously reported in EN in this thread, as follows: --Bangkok -- 236 --Chiang Mai -- 189 --Chonburi -- 180 --Prachuap Khiri Khan -- 49 --Samut Prakan -- 48 --Phuket -- 29 --Pathum Thani -- 26 --Saraburi -- 23 etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Another post trying to continue the political debate on the merits of lockdowns has been removed. it's a topic that belongs in the Coronavirus forum, not in this particular news thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Nanaplaza666 said: I can't wonder to think about the locked down area with all the factory workers in samut sakhon being locked up together with all those infected walking around . I am not hearing nothing about that anymore . Did any of them die ?? Where there any of them hospitalized ?? Could it be we didn't hear anything about it anymore because people only got sick and showing symptoms but didn't die ?? Maybe it is not as dangerous as we think or they want us to think . I don't say it's not here because i think it's very widespread already for a long time since the beginning but with lack of testing not being detected . I also don't say i am not worried about the spreading because i think it will spread even more during songkran , i am just saying that i think they should just open up everything and get on with vaccination of elder weaker and people with underlying decease and let it pan out . The human body will built some kind of imune to fight it we can already see how many people actually get infected and just get ill but after a few days or maybe two to 3 weeks get better . Compare nr's of people that get infected and get better to nr's of people that get infected and die and you will see that that percentage of deaths is very low . But that's my opinion amd everybody can think of it what they want . The factories were probably mostly younger people. Yes, vaccinate the elderly and those with underlying conditions but remember a fair number of younger people still get complications. Hospitals in the UK were seeing a larger number of people in their 40's and 50's admitted as the elders started to get protection from vaccines. I personally had a family member pass from Covid, 50yr old and no underlying conditions although rare to happen I admit. And then there is the effects of long covid, someone I know still suffering 2 months after catching the virus. In the UK they estimate 25% of people suffer from long covid in some form and seems to be affecting the younger people more, even those who have been asymptomatic with it. I returned from Thailand to UK February last year, last week in Thailand developed a persistent dry cough which lasted 3 weeks. I put it down to bad air quality (been Chiang Mai and BKK) and too much partying, but then suffered lethargy for several months after, out of breath climbing stairs etc. Was never tested as UK wasn't testing for covid at that point unless you were admitted to hospital. So yes need to vaccinate everyone to reduce the death and severity but it's not going to go away and the more it spreads, the more chance the virus has to mutate, hence vaccinated countries still trying to control it. This is like a lottery virus in my opinion, some are lucky, some are not, but age is no guarantee you won't be affected badly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Bkktodd said: Oh really? The tourists allowed (expats included) are tested and retested whilst spending time in quarantine. My mate lives in Pattaya...he sees 9 outa 10 farangs NOT wearing masks. Are You one of them? No I'm not and it irritates me to see it. My previous post of 'good' seems to have split opinion nicely. Tourists here are an irritant and a menace, especially the Chinese ones, so I will not be happy to see them back any time soon, albeit that in previous years I was one of them. That's got nothing to do with the virus. Edited April 11, 2021 by Pilotman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) Just saw a news report on TNN 16 of a young mother whose very young child has tested positive for Covid and she has tried 4 hospitals for admittance but keeps being turned away and the child has a high fever. This is getting insane here in BKK if hospitals are turning away patients really needing admittance. Maybe after todays issues they will isolate the asymptomatic positive cases in ASQ hotels until symptoms develop or they test negative, or better yet let those folks stay at home if they have the necessary room to be isolated, or if not then a field hospital, but to turn people away that are ill is just recklessness. Edited April 11, 2021 by ThailandRyan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, ThailandRyan said: Just saw a news report on TNN 16 of a young mother whose very young child has tested positve for Covid and she has tried 4 hospitals for admittance but keeps being turned away and the child has a high fever. This is getting insane here in BKK if hospitals are turning away patients really needing admittance. Maybe after todays issues they will isolate the asymptomatic positive cases in ASQ hotels until symptoms develop or they test negative, or better yet let those folks stay at home if they have the necessary room to be isolated, or if not then a field hospital, but to turn people away that are ill is just recklessness. Yea I saw that the child had a high fever apparently to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 40 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: I saw that. I am waiting for the knock on my door, as we just returned from Chiang Mai on Friday, before the explosion of cases. As I pointed out we are self isolating now and had planned to anyway because of the uptick in cases here in Bangkok. The irony of it all. Published in media now they are also asking for public donations Chiang Mai records 281 new COVID-19 cases on Sunday Thailand’s northern province of Chiang Mai recorded an additional 281 COVID-19 cases today (Sunday), mostly related to nightspots, prompting provincial authorities to expand facilities at the field hospital. Health officials appealed for public donations of bottled drinking water, sanitary paper, garbage bins and bags, beds and mattresses for the field hospital. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/chiang-mai-records-281-new-covid-19-cases-on-sunday/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Yea I saw that the child had a high fever apparently to. This government in my view, be it the local provincial or the PM's group, have been very slow on the uptake of this new spike in cases. My personal opinion is they got caught short handed and believed it would disappear like the other spikes did. However, now a very large majority of Thai people are positive and its not migrants whom they can not lock into their factories, or dorms. It is starting to go pear shaped. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Just saw a news report on TNN 16 of a young mother whose very young child has tested positive for Covid and she has tried 4 hospitals for admittance but keeps being turned away and the child has a high fever. This is getting insane here in BKK if hospitals are turning away patients really needing admittance. Maybe after todays issues they will isolate the asymptomatic positive cases in ASQ hotels until symptoms develop or they test negative, or better yet let those folks stay at home if they have the necessary room to be isolated, or if not then a field hospital, but to turn people away that are ill is just recklessness. The government the other day was basically saying the private hospital operators, who account for about 2/3rds of the COVID specific real hospital beds, need to do a better job of referring confirmed cases to other hospitals with available space. Some private hospitals are full for handling COVID cases at present. Others have available beds. But that info hasn't always been made available to the folks testing positive. So now they even have a new hotline for getting info about available hospital bed locations in the BKK region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: The government the other day was basically saying the private hospital operators, who account for about 2/3rds of the COVID specific real hospital beds, need to do a better job of referring confirmed cases to other hospitals with available space. Some private hospitals are full for handling COVID cases at present. Others have available beds. But that info hasn't always been made available to the folks testing positive. So now they even have a new hotline for getting info about available hospital bed locations in the BKK region. I saw that as well. The first hospital this lady went to with her ill child should have sequestered/isolated them there in a waiting area if possible, called around and found a bed, and then transported the child to the found hospital instead of allowing the parents to continue bouncing around and possibly infecting others. Just insane in my book. This Government and the local provincial facilities need to step it up as this thing is already spiraling. Finger pointing isn't going to get the job done. Glad I have what I need here at home to hold out for at least the next 6 weeks with the GF and daughter. Stay safe everyone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Just saw a news report on TNN 16 of a young mother whose very young child has tested positive for Covid and she has tried 4 hospitals for admittance but keeps being turned away and the child has a high fever. This is getting insane here in BKK if hospitals are turning away patients really needing admittance. Maybe after todays issues they will isolate the asymptomatic positive cases in ASQ hotels until symptoms develop or they test negative, or better yet let those folks stay at home if they have the necessary room to be isolated, or if not then a field hospital, but to turn people away that are ill is just recklessness. I believe that case is in Hua Hin and she has now found a hospital place. She was of course partying at the Maya bar and many other places if you read her facebook timeline, she was complaining about having no hospital place for the baby who has a fever on a hua hin facebook group in Thai. The system is already falling apart and they have asymptomatics occupying hospital beds while there are people who potentially need treatment that are being turned away. This policy will change very quickly or chaos will ensue. I'm 50/50 on which way it will go in the next week or two but eventually they will need to treat the ill and send the asymptomatics home to self isolate, just like in the rest of the real world. It's about to get real...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Meanwhile the Gangsters running the country are all sitting at home this Sunday evening eating a nice Steak and drinking very expensive French Wines etc etc while the country and its Medical Facility's are collapsing. I fear we are in for a very difficult time in the next few weeks/months; so batten down the hatches and stay safe everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby1947 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 When will the true figures come out, total BS from day one. But as they say This is Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 An extended, off-topic exchange of posts about tourists and tourism has been removed. Same with a pair of posts about the UK's handling of the pandemic, and a misinformation post. Again, the topic here is: Thailand reports daily record 967 new coronavirus infections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Zweistein Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 6 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: The strain of Covid-19 found in Thailand among visitors to entertainment venues in Bangkok has the spike pattern that matches perfectly with the Cambodia strain. Chulalongkorn University virology specialist Dr Yong Poovorawan said the latest strain does not match 100% with the British or other strains, but displays a 100% match with the Cambodia strain. The Cambodia strain had been found spreading in Cambodia about 6 weeks before it was detected in Thailand. From this data, it is conclusive that the latest wave at entertainment venues is related to the Cambodia strain of the virus. https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157942846797050 Anybody surprised ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, ikke1959 said: Time to think about a vaccination program. Suppose there are coming more cases and Thailand is not prepared to give their people a jab. with 550.000 vaccinated people they can not fight the spreading of this virus.......but the government has time to think, first a holiday of course and a number of meetings to decide about having a meeting to decide when the meeting to discuss covid should be planned. Edited April 11, 2021 by Artisi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, ukrules said: The system is already falling apart and they have asymptomatics occupying hospital beds while there are people who potentially need treatment that are being turned away. In theory, the real hospital beds are supposed to be reserved/used for those with medical conditions requiring hospital care. While the "field hospital" type facilities are intended for those with little to no symptoms, just to keep them out of public circulation. But in practice, AFAIK, the government only started setting up the various planned field hospital facilities in the past couple days, and I'm not sure how many of them if any, other than Chiang Mai, have actually begun admitting folks yet. I think they're trying to get the system working the right way... but just running a bit behind the curve as the positive COVID test numbers continue to mount over the past couple weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sheryl Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 7 hours ago, anchadian said: Yes, a good question. What is the recommended procedure in Thai hospitals or is this something they wont reveal to the media? No mysteries and no special treatment. Deaths always lag behind new cases. We are some weeks away from seeing deaths related to this spike. Also age of the infected is a factor. The patients in Thailand are on the whole younger than those in the West. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, ukrules said: If all things were equal then you would be correct. Age plays a large factor in the group of people who die from this issue. Seems like it plays a large part on who spreads it too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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