MrJ2U Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 11 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: A very tenous issue Covid has become. Life without knowing, because of no mass testing, yet the numbers hover in the 2k area and continue in line with double digit deaths. And there going to end the testing at the Phuket entry point as the government is stopping the funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 An off-topic post linking to an opinion piece on Thai government and politics has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) https://www.thaipbsworld.com/bangkok-extends-closure-of-businesses-public-venues-and-services-until-may-17th/ The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) announced today (Friday) an extension of the closures of several businesses, public spaces and services until May 17th, citing the continuing surge of COVID-19 infections in the capital. Edited May 7, 2021 by anchadian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Sounds like the Ministry of Public Health is now moving ahead with plans posted here yesterday to establish a very large field hospital complex in the Challenger Hall complex at Muang Thong Thani in Nonthaburi.... in an effort to take the strain off regular hospitals in Bangkok that are filling with COVID patients. The planned field hospital would be aimed at serving COVID patients with minor symptoms. Per Google Translate from the MoPH: Today (7 May 2021) Mr. Anutin Charnvirakul, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Public Health, along with Dr. Kiattaphum Wongrajit, Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Public Health. And management team Enter the Challenger Building, Muang Thong Thani, preparing to establish the Budsarakam Hospital Ready to receive paper beds from Panjapon Fiber Container Co., Ltd. to support for use in Bussarakam Hospital. Initial of 3,500 beds Anutin gave an interview that The Ministry of Public Health has prepared to establish Bussarakam Hospital at Challenger Muang Thong Thani to support the COVID-19 situation in Bangkok and the surrounding areas with high numbers of infected people. ...This will help the hospitals in the Bangkok area have a bed to fully support the critically ill patients with the red group. If everything goes according to plan, the service is expected to open in mid-May. ... Mr. Anutin continued that Initially, it will accommodate approximately 1,200 infected beds and can be extended to 5,000 beds, providing comprehensive care for COVID patients. Original Thai language announcement: https://pr.moph.go.th/?url=pr/detail/2/04/157854/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, anchadian said: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/bangkok-extends-closure-of-businesses-public-venues-and-services-until-may-17th/ The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) announced today (Friday) an extension of the closures of several businesses, public spaces and services until May 17th, citing the continuing surge of COVID-19 infections in the capital. That's it, just let the malls stay open from 11 to 8pm. From an earlier post:https://www.thaipbsworld.com/191-covid-19-infections-found-in-new-bang-khae-cluster/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExpatOilWorker Posted May 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, anchadian said: https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1390655692311171072 A new cluster has been found at a pineapple canning factory in Prachuap Khiri Khan today. Out of 257 people examined, 112 tested positive. There should be more details about this in the press briefing tomorrow #COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand 43.6% positivity rate, that must be a new record. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Pretty obvious they are struggling to contain this, with numbers this high its playing catch up all the time, contain one cluster only to fight another and another and this logically leads to further spread until its completely ravaged Bangkok and into Provinces. Not sure how many rapid tests are being used, nobody does apart from them but like the Samut Sakhon outbreak and locking up the migrants, we just never got hear hear of the true positive count, it was all hidden. I suspect this may be happening right now in the slum communities, straight into quarantine or field hospital with no official count for a proportion of them. The huge field hospitals now being erected in Bangkok with ICU facilities would be a perfect place for the serious victims from the slums and migrants. Out of sight, out of mind for the officials. The only way to have any hope to curb this is mass testing, not Thailand's version of mass testing but real mass testing. Identify the true scale of the problem so you know what you have to do. In the meantime there should be no other alternative than to have a complete lockdown to act as a circuit breaker, even if only for a couple of weeks. I agree with you 100%. The field hospitals were only supposed to be for mild cases but are apparently now being used for serious cases with makeshift ICU facilities with probably limited equipment and maybe no ventilators. Since they are open plan there is no way of curbing the infection from spreading to everyone working in the field hospitals and anyone who maybe got a false positive test, if they can still accommodate asymptomatic patients. Early on there were warnings issued that patients would be prosecuted for taking pictures in the field hospitals, ostensibly to protect the privacy of other patients. Last year there was lots of horrific images from hospitals in Italy, Spain and the US but China did the same as Thailand in trying suppress that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ourmanflint Posted May 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2021 52 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said: 43.6% positivity rate, that must be a new record. Not to worry, our resident expert will be along soon to explain why everything is ok 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, ourmanflint said: Not to worry, our resident expert will be along soon to explain why everything is ok PS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 hours ago, ourmanflint said: Not to worry, our resident expert will be along soon to explain why everything is ok It's ok. ???? P.S. I'm drunk and have been for three days now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, bwpage3 said: You just don't get that Thailand is not testing enough people per day to get an accurate account of the number of covid cases. Read some of the other posts that already mentioned this. Exactly, WHO recommends a rate of 5%positivity and an ideal rate of 3% positivity of people tested, or below, to show adequate testing is been carried out so as not to miss a higher percentage of cases. Confusion comes from rates arrived at from total tests as opposed to people tested, as repeat testing can cancel out eg. person tests positive, later negative for release. Testing should also be widespread and not just concentrated on target areas as this gives a false positivity. If you test areas and start getting very low positives in those areas it counteracts the positive rates in the high cluster hotspot areas and those coming forward with symptoms/contact trace, and gives the overall rate. If that rate is low then you know you are testing adequately and not missing cases. Edited May 7, 2021 by Petey11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I had a Covid-19 test yesterday. I wonder where my test will appear in the national reports. It was not a random sample, I don’t think I am a person under investigation, and I didn’t walk into a hospital for a test, I am in quarantine. Same with people flying out of Thailand who need a PCR test, how are they reported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted May 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2021 8 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said: 43.6% positivity rate, that must be a new record. That's pretty high really.Don't know how that one got out.It would make a great headline and viral news story."Thailand's infection rate reaches 43%". 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 India is not going into a national lockdown apparently leaving it up to the states. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-08/why-is-india-not-announcing-a-lockdown-covid-second-wave/100124692 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: India is not going into a national lockdown apparently leaving it up to the states. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-08/why-is-india-not-announcing-a-lockdown-covid-second-wave/100124692 They will need more pyre wood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said: They will need more pyre wood. But if they had cardboard beds like Thailand is adopting in their field camps they could burn them in situ perhaps. Edited May 7, 2021 by Excel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1390817587303309313 Chonburi Public Health Office has just just announced that they have 72 new cases today (lowest for one month). The total so far is now 3,202. Most new cases in Bang Lamung/Pattaya (37), Chonburi City (14), and Sriracha (9) #COVID19 #โควิด19 #Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: I had a Covid-19 test yesterday. I wonder where my test will appear in the national reports. It was not a random sample, I don’t think I am a person under investigation, and I didn’t walk into a hospital for a test, I am in quarantine. Same with people flying out of Thailand who need a PCR test, how are they reported? You've been posting here about tests and categories for weeks and you still don't know? Amazing Would you like me to repeat what has been posted multiple times before? Of course you'll need to furnish all the details of the circumstances on which test and why. Although I'm surprised you didn't ask them yourself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 21 hours ago, Excel said: Well we will soon have the brain dead on here claiming it has flat lined (again) and it has peaked (again). Also the government apologists will pop out of the woodwork claiming they are doing a good job. Well we all know exactly what it is they are doing a good job of and for whom and it is certainly nothing do to do with proactive random testing as it is not happening nationally. And only selectively where cases have already occurred as a reactive case in those hot spots which perhaps could have been mitigated by appropriate government actions previously. It didn't take too long after my previous post for the usual posters to go from posting ludicrous claims to them becoming ridiculously ludicrous claims . Can't wait for todays installments from them as it is like as if they post after firstly reading from "Herge's adventures of Tintin" If it wasn't so serious it would be laughable what they say and claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Excel said: It didn't take too long after my previous post for the usual posters to go from posting ludicrous claims to them becoming ridiculously ludicrous claims . Can't wait for todays installments from them as it is like as if they post after firstly reading from "Herge's adventures of Tintin" If it wasn't so serious it would be laughable what they say and claim. The numbers for Chonburi have been posted here. The number of new infections is declining in Chonburi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: The numbers for Chonburi have been posted here. The number of new infections is declining in Chonburi. So , we can all read other posts so what is your point of stating what we already know ? Or do you think Chonburi is all of Thailand now ? So exactly what chapter of "Herge's Adventures of Tintin" are you up to now ? ???? That ASQ is taking it's toll on you perhaps ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Excel said: So , we can all read other posts so what is your point of stating what we already know ? Or do you think Chonburi is all of Thailand now ? So exactly what chapter of "Herge's Adventures of Tintin" are you up to now ? ???? That ASQ is taking it's toll on you perhaps ? I am sorry that the data does not support your assertion that the epidemic will be catastrophic in the near future. I suggest you move the goalposts so that when this wave peters out, you can claim that the 500 or so fatalities from the wave were what you were predicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Capital needs beds as Covid cases soar: The government is scrambling to find more beds for Covid-19 patients with severe symptoms as new cases in Bangkok exceed 500 on a daily basis. https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1390822434874433536 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1390836430218297344 BREAKING: Thai health ministry reporting 19 deaths and 2,419 cases on Saturday. Full update at 12:30pm. 4 May: 1,763 - 27 dead 5 May: 2,112 - 15 dead 6 May: 1,911 - 18 dead 7 May: 2,044 - 27 dead 8 May: 2,419 - 19 dead TODAY Edited May 8, 2021 by anchadian 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, anchadian said: https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1390836430218297344 BREAKING: Thai health ministry reporting 19 deaths and 2,419 cases on Saturday. Full update at 12:30pm. 4 May: 1,763 - 27 dead 5 May: 2,112 - 15 dead 6 May: 1,911 - 18 dead 7 May: 2,044 - 27 dead 8 May: 2,419 - 19 dead <— TODAY Not good news, containing this outbreak is failing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Cue the Doomsayers and the Exponential Definers. I should note that there were a few thousand tests left over from testing in Klong Toey that were probably processed yesterday that added to today’s totals. it is true that more testing will lead to more infections reported. Let’s see how many of today’s cases came from more testing, or more people showing up at hospitals. Or, maybe the prisons were tested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted May 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) @anchadian Thank you for the daily morning updates. It does show that we are no where in actually leveling off here. Many of these cases are more than likely in Bangkok, but now there is a pineapple factory in Prachuap Kiri Khan that has a rate of almost 50% positive cases of those tested so far. Add in the new clusters popping up and all it takes is one person to keep the spread going into the outer areas where testing is not being done. Of course there will be a member or two to report that it is still being contained and the government is continuing its control of the issues. With this many cases, and who knows how many more undetected, we are in for a long ride. Stay safe folks Edited May 8, 2021 by ThailandRyan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: Cue the Doomsayers and the Exponential Definers. I should note that there were a few thousand tests left over from testing in Klong Toey that were probably processed yesterday that added to today’s totals. it is true that more testing will lead to more infections reported. Let’s see how many of today’s cases came from more testing, or more people showing up at hospitals. Or, maybe the prisons were tested. Expect the worst, hope for the best, thats how most battles and pandemics have been won. Risk Assessment. However I see your one who seems only to react to the positive news, while seeming to ignore the negative signals. Also known as "Normalcy bias" These people are never able to carry out risk assessments, the most vital tool for beating the virus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Capital needs beds as Covid cases soar: The government is scrambling to find more beds for Covid-19 patients with severe symptoms as new cases in Bangkok exceed 500 on a daily basis. https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1390822434874433536 PM sent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: I am sorry that the data does not support your assertion that the epidemic will be catastrophic in the near future. I suggest you move the goalposts so that when this wave peters out, you can claim that the 500 or so fatalities from the wave were what you were predicting. You appear now to be deliberately making up baseless claims and assumptions about what I said? Tell me ,where did I ever claim it would be catastrophic ? I think you better stop making false claims about what people say or do not say on here as other posters will think you are becoming delusional and perhaps unbalanced stuck in that hotel room of yours. If you do not desist from making erroneous claims and falsehoods about what I write you will be reported. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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