7 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

Gotta say, I had the AZ vaccine and suffered incredible fatigue for a day. I don't think its Sinovac per se, just a side-effect of the dual dose vaccines.

 

What the article lacks is the amount of vaccines given.

 

Sinovac hasn't released enough data and hasn't even been approved for emergency use by WHO.  Its cheap, that's originally why Anutin was told to get it.  

11 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Sinovac hasn't released enough data and hasn't even been approved for emergency use by WHO.  Its cheap, that's originally why Anutin was told to get it.  

 

And there's me thinking he was getting into bed with the Chinese...

 

21 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Sinovac hasn't released enough data and hasn't even been approved for emergency use by WHO.  Its cheap, that's originally why Anutin was told to get it.  

Just wondering what data WHO is reviewing for safety and efficacy if Sinovac hasn’t released enough data.  Approval likely soon. ????

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/who-inches-closer-to-approval-of-chinese-sinopharm-and-sinovac-vaccines/

1 hour ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

I am not an anti vaxxer if i can get the moderna soon i will for sure , but 9 out of 88 C'mon that must even make you thinking . 

I did my second shot of moderna last week and I have to say personally the second shot does have more side effects like tiredness and slight fever. My brother also had fever although my mom just felt tired. My business partner did his coronavac and felt nothing for both shots so it's really up to individual body response.

7 hours ago, madmen said:

Same here, dead tired 2days and not looking forward to the second dose. 

 

Did you receive your vaccination in Thailand?

 

Sinocrap vaccine

40 minutes ago, FalangJaiDee said:

Sign me RIGHT UP for an “experimental mRNA shot” that hasn’t been approved by the FDA yet. Rolling the dice on nasty side effects is much better than a virus with a 99.999% survival rate 

It has been approved under an emergency authorization. And it's far from experimental.

 

I just had a follow rabies shot that knocked me sideways for an hour.

 

You really need a better source for your news. The survival rate isn't 99.999%. Don't post misinformation.

49 minutes ago, FalangJaiDee said:

Sign me RIGHT UP for an “experimental mRNA shot” that hasn’t been approved by the FDA yet. Rolling the dice on nasty side effects is much better than a virus with a 99.999% survival rate 

Which viirus would that be? Not covid which has a much higher fatility rate:

https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid#how-did-confirmed-deaths-and-cases-change-over-time

And there are also long term effects of covid:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

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2 hours ago, Caldera said:

"Her condition gradually improved after pillows were used to help her to breathe more comfortably"

 

Sorry, but side effects at such a low level are to be expected and not at all newsworthy. Breathing difficulties relieved by cleverly positioned pillows, really? Can't have been very serious then.

 

Personally, I would not consider difficulty breathing a low level side effect. Reduction in breathing would get me to head for the emergency room.

5 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Personally, I would not consider difficulty breathing a low level side effect. Reduction in breathing would get me to head for the emergency room.

Given that she needed only propping up with pillows and no medication or intubation, I'd say that's pretty low level.

7 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

pale in comparison to the millions of lives these jabs have saved.  Thrilled!!!!!!!!

how many millions?

source?

15 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

how many millions?

source?

www.who.int

7 hours ago, hotchilli said:

12 hours ago, ukrules said:

 

Pillows, really? Who writes this <deleted>?

 

Cheaper than ventilators.

plus breathing through a feather pillow must surely filter better than  mask too...

3 hours ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

12 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

This ones going to be like a dog-whistle for the Anti-vaxxers !!! 

I am not an anti vaxxer if i can get the moderna soon i will for sure , but 9 out of 88 C'mon that must even make you thinking . 

 

I have to agree...  88 vaccinations and 9 adverse reactions - thats terrible optics for Sinovac.

 

The reactions appear to be quite severe and more than the ‘normal headache and cold symptoms experienced by many who take a vaccine (any vaccine) and considered a perfectly normal response’....

 

 

Now I start to wonder if Sinovac is safe... what of the few million people who have had no adverse reactions? it does seem somewhat strange that there was a concentration of negative reactions to the virus at Thammarsat, I  wonder where else has reported genuine serious side effects. 

 

 

ONCE AGAIN

 

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5 hours ago, placeholder said:

It's very effective against symptoms serious enough to require hospitalization. And while you may consider this a minor point, it's also very effective against the most serious symptom of all: death.

We’re you home schooled lol Chinese apologist 

2 hours ago, smew said:

First we got the virus from China then the substandard vaccine.. what next !?? 

Thank you...

I would drink 10 gallons of buzzard puke and die of the drizzling sh**s, before I would take the Chinese counterfeit vaccine. 

2 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

Sinovac hasn't released enough data and hasn't even been approved for emergency use by WHO.  Its cheap, that's originally why Anutin was told to get it.  

Are you sure that what you are posting is truthful and accurate?

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/who-gives-emergency-approval-sinopharm-first-chinese-covid-19-vaccine-2021-05-07/

 

Story from 3 days ago.....

52 minutes ago, mrfill said:

Are you sure that what you are posting is truthful and accurate?

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/who-gives-emergency-approval-sinopharm-first-chinese-covid-19-vaccine-2021-05-07/

 

Story from 3 days ago.....

Someone else will correct you if I don't. Sinovac and sinopharm are two different vaccine makers from China. 

The results of these bottles all look the same.
I ask for my neighbour, Could it be that they are all experimental vaccines?

1 hour ago, Aomelia said:

We’re you home schooled lol Chinese apologist 

He's just stating the facts. Do some research and you'll find out.

1 hour ago, mrfill said:

Are you sure that what you are posting is truthful and accurate?

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/who-gives-emergency-approval-sinopharm-first-chinese-covid-19-vaccine-2021-05-07/

 

Story from 3 days ago.....

The link you posted is for Sinopharm, not the same as Sinovac, which has still not been approved by WHO.

14 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

This ones going to be like a dog-whistle for the Anti-vaxxers !!! 

https://vaers.hhs.gov

38 minutes ago, connda said:

https://vaers.hhs.gov

Anti vaxxer?

7 hours ago, placeholder said:

It's very effective against symptoms serious enough to require hospitalization. And while you may consider this a minor point, it's also very effective against the most serious symptom of all: death.

Sino-"anything" is out of the question as far as I'm concerned. As long as I have a choice, I'll take my chances and wait. The US hasn't sanctioned it and for good reason, IMO. I don't understanding why the Thai government is pushing what is (also IMO) a grossly substandard vaccine (Sinovac) on people and meanwhile are dragging their feet on getting other superior options into the pipeline. Who knows what kinds of shady games are playing out between the Thai gov't and the Chinese? To me it smells of, "we the gov't, don't give a rat's behind about prioritizing what's best for the well-being of the people".

15 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

This ones going to be like a dog-whistle for the Anti-vaxxers !!! 

 

Isn't it anybodies legal right to be pro or anti vaccines?

 

I don't want to declare myself pro or anti, though in my adult life I have never felt the need for a vaccine, and I have also never been seriously ill either.

 

Same goes for this Covid vaccine, if it isn't mandatory I will give it a miss.

3 hours ago, Aomelia said:

We’re you home schooled lol Chinese apologist 

Your comment is very telling. You seem to be taking out your animus against the Chinese govt on a company that happens to be Chinese. I've cited scientific studies time and again to show that Coronavac is very effective against severe covid symptoms up to and including death.

Whatever the faults of the Chinese govt may be, and they are legion, has nothing to do with the scientific question of whether or not a vaccine can spare people from needless suffering and death. 

27 minutes ago, DBath said:

Sino-"anything" is out of the question as far as I'm concerned. As long as I have a choice, I'll take my chances and wait. The US hasn't sanctioned it and for good reason, IMO. I don't understanding why the Thai government is pushing what is (also IMO) a grossly substandard vaccine (Sinovac) on people and meanwhile are dragging their feet on getting other superior options into the pipeline. Who knows what kinds of shady games are playing out between the Thai gov't and the Chinese? To me it smells of, "we the gov't, don't give a rat's behind about prioritizing what's best for the well-being of the people".

Why is a vaccine that has repeatedly been show to be so powerful in protecting those infected with covid against hospitalization and death "substandard"? For all kinds of reasons, it will be most likely be quite a while before other vaccines are available in Thailand. I guess you'd rather people wait and expose themselves to the risk of suffering serious illness and death in order to gain access to another vaccine that may protect them slightly more effectively against those unhappy outcomes.