Pfizer preferred vaccine for Thais: Poll

[sammieuk1]

Dr Yong and Dr Opas will be along to say AZ is top banana next month when Siam Bioscience churns out some fabled juice  zzzzzzz???? 

[friendofthai]

It was necessary to not mention Sinovac for Pfizer to win.

[mrfill]

23 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Sputnik apparently shunned by Russians with only 10% take up according to the BBC ????

Perhaps they haven't read about the trials with 22000 people reported by The Lancet which states:

 

"In a study of 22,000 people, the vaccine provided 91.6 per cent protection—a higher figure than the AstraZeneca (AZ) vaccine (76 per cent), and comparable to that reported for the Moderna and Pfizer jabs. Most of the side-effects were minor, any cases of Covid-19 in the vaccinated group were mild, and four deaths recorded in the study cohort were not vaccine-related. Sputnik V uses the same approach as the AZ and Johnson & Johnson vaccines: an inactivated (common cold) adenovirus carries the coronavirus fragment that stimulates an immune response."

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00234-8/fulltext

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48 minutes ago, mrfill said:

Perhaps they haven't read about the trials with 22000 people reported by The Lancet which states:

 

"In a study of 22,000 people, the vaccine provided 91.6 per cent protection—a higher figure than the AstraZeneca (AZ) vaccine (76 per cent), and comparable to that reported for the Moderna and Pfizer jabs. Most of the side-effects were minor, any cases of Covid-19 in the vaccinated group were mild, and four deaths recorded in the study cohort were not vaccine-related. Sputnik V uses the same approach as the AZ and Johnson & Johnson vaccines: an inactivated (common cold) adenovirus carries the coronavirus fragment that stimulates an immune response."

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00234-8/fulltext

I once cited the same thing and then someone pointed out to me that it was only an interim analysis and the actual raw data hadn't been shared. Here's the latest from the lancet published on May 12.

 

Data discrepancies and substandard reporting of interim data of Sputnik V phase 3 trial

Restricted access to data hampers trust in research. Access to data underpinning study findings is imperative to check and confirm the findings claimed. It is even more serious if there are apparent errors and numerical inconsistencies in the statistics and results presented. Regrettably, this seems to be what is happening in the case of the Sputnik V phase 3 trial.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00899-0/fulltext

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1 hour ago, friendofthai said:

It was necessary to not mention Sinovac for Pfizer to win.

The following is definitely not going to increase favorability ratings for Sinovac:

Chinese health experts promote third doses of vaccines, saying protection wanes after six months

Amid lingering questions over the efficacy of Chinese-developed coronavirus vaccines, health experts in China are calling for all high-risk groups to take a third dose of the vaccines, saying the shots’ protection recedes after six months.

The head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention made waves last month when he conceded the efficacy rate of China’s coronavirus vaccines was “not high,” in remarks that were quickly censored. He said the government was considering mixing different brands of vaccines or adding shots to increase the efficacy rate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/24/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

 

 

[brucegoniners]

LOL. Good luck with that! Instead you get SPUTNIK, or no soup for you!

[Albert Zweistein]

last week I ask several Thai what vaccin they preferred ( call it my private poll ) and none of them had a clue of what was ( coming ) available.

[Albert Zweistein]

4 hours ago, Youlike said:

And my wife just told me that Thailand ordered the Russian vaccine (which is the most safe one).

 

For sure i won't take the Pfizer after all these warnings from the vice president...Are We Being Set Up for Mass Depopulation? Michael Yeadon - Full Interview - Planet Lockdown (bitchute.com)

 

 

Had both Pfizer jabs, the 2nd one April 16 and no side effects at all. Not even a sore arm.

[shdmn]

One problem with the Russian vaccine is that the 1st and 2nd shot are actually different formulations. 

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/russia-covid19-vaccine-sputnik-v-arrives-on-may-1-what-makes-it-different-1795710-2021-04-28

 

[friendofthai]

16 hours ago, placeholder said:

The head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention made waves last month when he conceded the efficacy rate of China’s coronavirus vaccines was “not high,” in remarks that were quickly censored.

This man has obviously not yet adapted to the realities of the vaccine war that the Western countries are unleashing to the world. So he was surprised to see that his words that the current vaccines "don't have VERY high rates of protection" have been translated from English to English as "don't have high rates of protection":
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56713663

Here we see the difference in principles of work between the Western journalists and the Chinese ones. Chinese journalists present the full information to the public. But the western ones prefer to repost or publish partial information similar to this poll that is being reposted readily by many western and pro-western media resources. As we see from the comments in this topic, it looks ugly even for the westerners.

[friendofthai]

On 5/24/2021 at 4:27 PM, connda said:

Media sponsored polls are not scientifically significant and are primarily marketing tools.

Exactly! We see that Pfizer is using marketing tools. So almost everyone in Thailand has heard of it.  "Approval rating of 75.11 %" actually means "75.11% out of nearly 100% people that have heard of it because of advertising" [the text with the quotation marks in this sentence is not from the article].
And what about Sputnik?

 

On 5/24/2021 at 8:36 AM, rabas said:

61.89% had never even heard of Sputnik, but realized it was not Sinovac.

Yes, many people had never even heard of Sputnik!
So the result of 61.89% could mean, for instance,  "Approval rating is about 100% out of nearly 61.89% people that have ever heard of it" or, maybe, "Approval rating is about 90% out of nearly 68% people that have ever heard of it" [the text with the quotation marks in this sentence is not from the article]

To obtain unbiased objective results for a vaccine, we should count only people who have ever heard of this vaccine.

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2 minutes ago, friendofthai said:

Exactly! We see that Pfizer is using marketing tools. So almost everyone in Thailand has heard of it.  "Approval rating of 75.11 %" actually means "75.11% out of nearly 100% people that have heard of it because of advertising".
And what about Sputnik?

 

Yes, many people had never even heard of Sputnik!
So the result of 61.89% could mean, for instance,  "Approval rating is about 100% out of nearly 61.89% people that have ever heard of it" or, maybe, "Approval rating is about 90% out of nearly 68% people that have ever heard of it"

To obtain unbiased objective results for a vaccine, we should count only people who have ever heard of this vaccine.

Do you understand that using quotation marks for things that were never said in the article is deceptive?

 

[Fex Bluse]

@Natai Beach what is the status of the Thai designed vaccines you were waiting for?