22 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Yup, it's a pandemic.  Quite why anyone thought it wouldn't eventually affect Thailand, I have no idea.  The numbers are still relatively low, and in my opinion, don't justify the panic being expressed in some quarters, or the disruption to life in general. I realise I'm in the minority here, though.

 

Given that many want to wait for the vaccine of their choice would indicate that the situation is not as bad as some make out, so I'd agree.

Edited May 24, 20215 yr by sungod

21 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 Just because your observation of cases floating around 2,000 is very much what I would expect and, for me, not really a cause for panic.  

I think you miss my point. Ok you expect it to float around 2k which it was for a few wks but then very recently large clusters have been discovered yet the numbers remain virtually the same. This is what I have a problem with. 

Edited May 24, 20215 yr by dinsdale

Khao Yoi Phetchaburi cluster 2011 cases..... nowhere to be found

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1 hour ago, anchadian said:

‘Phuket Must Win’ must close

 

PHUKET: The ‘Phuket Must Win’ web portal for people on the island to register to receive a state-provided COVID-19 vaccination will no longer accept registrations from Thais from June 5, and no longer receive registrations of foreigners after Tuesday (May 25).

 

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-must-win-must-close-80088.php

 

More of the magical, world-class, highly organised, transparent, and efficient Thai covid response posters keep telling us about ...

7 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

Khao Yoi Phetchaburi cluster 2011 cases..... nowhere to be found

 

The official tallies reported 1400 or so new cases from Phetchaburi province over the past two days, and I'd expect there will be some hundreds more later today when today's numbers by province are officially reported.

 

This below shows the daily new case numbers for Phetchaburi province for the past week through yesterday.

 

 

I believe, some of the cases from this cluster outbreak also are being reported in other provinces because that's where those involved are from.

 

Edited May 24, 20215 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

Chonburi has 106 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19, mostly from a single factory cluster

 

 

The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 106 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 with one new death this morning (May 24th), driven by clusters at industrial estates and factories.

 

This makes a total of 4,269 cases of Covid-19 in the current round of infections, with 998 still in medical care, with a total of nineteen recorded deaths in Chonburi since the start of this recent round of infections in early April. One more death was announced in this morning’s update.

 

Additionally, 3,252 people in total have now been released from medical care and fully recovered since this current wave began. 68 people were released yesterday.

 

 

 

More:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/05/24/chonburi-has-106-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-mostly-from-a-single-factory-cluster/

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The official tallies reported 1400 or so new cases from Phetchaburi province over the past two days, and I'd expect there will be some hundreds more later today when today's numbers by province are officially reported.

 

This below shows the daily new case numbers for Phetchaburi province for the past week through yesterday.

 

 

I believe, some of the cases from this cluster outbreak also are being reported in other provinces because that's where those involved are from.

 

Believe me yesterday evening local news reported 2011 case in Kao Yoi and more to follow. 1 case also in Phetchaburi prison already. In my area they announce constantly to go to the tessaban or hospital if you were in or around the factories there. if they found out they did not report they will fine you. 

43 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Seventy per cent of the population in 11 provinces will be vaccinated by August, as per the target set by the National Communicable Diseases Committee.

Dr Opas Karnkawinpong director-general at the Department of Disease Control, as a member and secretary of the National Communicable Diseases Committee, on May 17 issued guidelines to provincial governors on Covid-19 vaccination.

 

The document states that the first dose of AstraZeneca will be allocated from June - September. The government has set a target to vaccinate 47 million people nationwide, equivalent to 70 per cent of the national population. 

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001205

Pipe dreams. Where will those 47 million vaccines come from.

2 hours ago, WhatsNext said:

 

We live in weird times indeed, most people seem totally oblivious to math, statistics and chance calculations that show them that the ride to the test center on the back of a motorbike is a lot more dangerous than the actual infection.

Well, yes.

 

Your sense of risk management is not so good, because you don’t grasp the consequences of unfettered spread of an infectious disease. 

32 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I think you miss my point. Ok you expect it to float around 2k which it was for a few wks but then very recently large clusters have been discovered yet the numbers remain virtually the same. This is what I have a problem with. 

Because the number of infections outside of the clusters is decreasing. For example, there were 100+ infections in Chonburi today, but 75 were in factories, only 25 elsewhere.

 

or, it may be that testing outside of the clusters, and for hospital walk-ins, has been abandoned.

Edited May 24, 20215 yr by Danderman123

33 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

Khao Yoi Phetchaburi cluster 2011 cases..... nowhere to be found

Some reported yesterday. Feel free to point out missing cases later today.

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

‘Phuket Must Win’ must close

 

PHUKET: The ‘Phuket Must Win’ web portal for people on the island to register to receive a state-provided COVID-19 vaccination will no longer accept registrations from Thais from June 5, and no longer receive registrations of foreigners after Tuesday (May 25).

 

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-must-win-must-close-80088.php

What is the consequence of this decision ?

Just now, Danderman123 said:

What is the consequence of this decision ?

On the surface it seems no will get vaccinated without having to do the virus spreading, time wasting on-site registration first.

1 hour ago, tomazbodner said:

For Astra Zeneca they found it is more effective if second shot is given much later. In Europe second shots have also been postponed to 4-5 moths later. Maybe Sinovac is similar?

In Thailand, sinovac is 3 weeks, and astrazeneca is 10 weeks. 

Edited May 24, 20215 yr by DavisH

1 hour ago, Blumpie said:

These are weekend numbers too.  Yikes!

How long does it take for testing results to filter through to the daily report?

Edited May 24, 20215 yr by FarFlungFalang

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

I wonder why the left hand of the doctor always conveniently covers the needle touching the skin

The vaccine has to go into muscle, so the muscle is pinched up into a convenient  mound by the other hand.......if it goes directly into the blood stream it can kill you.

1 hour ago, tomazbodner said:

For Astra Zeneca they found it is more effective if second shot is given much later. In Europe second shots have also been postponed to 4-5 moths later. Maybe Sinovac is similar?

If that is why vajira  hospital in Phuket is postponing second jabs, and it may well be, I wonder why they don’t come out and say so and just reschedule the appointments?

 

not doing so makes one feel suspicious and look for negative reasons for the postponement. For instance, maybe Phuket is now a sinovac only zone and people who had the first AZ jab have to hope they don’t get forgotten in the reclassification. I don’t think it’s many people tbh, from memory not much AZ was ever imported.

2 hours ago, anchadian said:

‘Phuket Must Win’ must close

 

PHUKET: The ‘Phuket Must Win’ web portal for people on the island to register to receive a state-provided COVID-19 vaccination will no longer accept registrations from Thais from June 5, and no longer receive registrations of foreigners after Tuesday (May 25).

 

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-must-win-must-close-80088.php

I swear it was only 10 days ago that I was being told Phuketians could not use the general Covid vaccine registration app and HAD to use the Phuket must win app.

 

gotta stay nimble in Thailand, long term strategy lasts the blink of an eye ????

46 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Your sense of risk management is not so good, because you don’t grasp the consequences of unfettered spread of an infectious disease. 

 

Really i don't, tell me why with arguments please.

We can all see the stats don't we, i see the same as you ; 3.5 million deaths in 1 year and 5 months. That's 0,03% of the earth population per year. Tell me i am wrong

Seems like the OP is back to the vaccine theme AGAIN.

24 minutes ago, WhatsNext said:

 

Really i don't, tell me why with arguments please.

We can all see the stats don't we, i see the same as you ; 3.5 million deaths in 1 year and 5 months. That's 0,03% of the earth population per year. Tell me i am wrong

So, you are resorting to this lame argument. I think Holocaust apologists and defense attorneys make the same argument. 

 

At what point do you consider marginal deaths to be a problem? A billion? 

49 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

How long does it take for testing results to filter through to the daily report?

Anything up to a month I would imagine.......55

39 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I swear it was only 10 days ago that I was being told Phuketians could not use the general Covid vaccine registration app and HAD to use the Phuket must win app.

 

gotta stay nimble in Thailand, long term strategy lasts the blink of an eye ????

I read on hear a couple of days ago that we could register at Bangkok Hospital Siriroj here in Phuket. Went there this morning nice and early after the school run and they said they have no information yet on that.

8 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Anything up to a month I would imagine.......55

If its anything like the Prison inmates then yea, saved them all up it seems ????

The UK, South Africa and Brazil variants could be much more contagious than earlier versions. All three have undergone changes to their spike protein – the part of the virus which attaches to human cells. As a result, these variants seem to be better at infecting cells and spreading.

 

However, there is no evidence that any of them cause much more serious illness for the vast majority of people who become infected.

 

As with the original version, the risk is highest for people who are elderly or have significant underlying health conditions.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158036303812050

28 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

So, you are resorting to this lame argument. I think Holocaust apologists and defense attorneys make the same argument. 

 

At what point do you consider marginal deaths to be a problem? A billion? 

 

Your argument is strictly... as lame.

 

If one death is a problem... then we need to stop everything and everyone for this one death, isn't it ?

 

So let's breath in, and breath out... We can't escape using comparisons and scales.

 

Because that's the way human brain is working... ! to allow us to understand the world we live in.

 

If Covid commands that we lockdown countries for 3 or even 6 millions deaths in the world (let's double the official count)... then what shall we do for :

 

Disease burden and mortality estimates (WHO, for the year 2016, 5 years ago)

https://www.who.int/healthinfo/global_burden_disease/estimates/en/

 

Data : https://www.who.int/healthinfo/global_burden_disease/GHE2016_Deaths_Global_2000_2016.xls?ua=1

 

-heart diseases + strokes = 17,8 millions deaths

-cancers  = 8,9 millions

-infectious diseases + parasites = 5,49 millions

-respiratory diseases (not infectious) = 3,8 millions

-alzheimer dementia = 2,53 millions

 

etc.

"Nine villages in Tak Bai district, where the first cases of the South African variant of COVID-19 were detected, remain closed to prevent the malignant strain from spreading to other areas in Narathiwat province.

 

Department of Disease Control (DDC) Director-General Dr. Opas Karnkawinpong said those villages are under lockdown after health authorities detected the South African variant in three people, who have fully recovered from their infections. The province had originally planned the lockdown from May 8th to Saturday only, but the restrictions are still being enforced.

 

He said the South African variant, detected in Tak Bai, was similar to that found in Malaysia. An investigation by the department found the strain was imported into Thailand by a Malaysian woman, who illegally crossed the border to Thailand with her son and mother-in-law to visit her husband in Tak Bai from April 12-May 4."

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158036279117050

 

Edited May 24, 20215 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

"Nine villages in Tak Bai district, where the first cases of the South African variant of COVID-19 were detected, remain closed to prevent the malignant strain from spreading to other areas in Narathiwat province.

 

Department of Disease Control (DDC) Director-General Dr. Opas Karnkawinpong said those villages are under lockdown after health authorities detected the South African variant in three people, who have fully recovered from their infections. The province had originally planned the lockdown from May 8th to Saturday only, but the restrictions are still being enforced.

 

He said the South African variant, detected in Tak Bai, was similar to that found in Malaysia. An investigation by the department found the strain was imported into Thailand by a Malaysian woman, who illegally crossed the border to Thailand with her son and mother-in-law to visit her husband in Tak Bai from April 12-May 4."

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158036279117050

 

I hope they have extended the testing to the villages surrounding the 9 that have been locked down.  Foot paths, motorbike trails do exist and people walk between villages to see friends.  Did they ring them with barbed wire and guards?

23 minutes ago, anchadian said:

However, there is no evidence that any of them cause much more serious illness for the vast majority of people who become infected.

If they cause more infections they will cause more serious cases and more deaths won't they?Surely if more people are seriously ill or more people die as a result of it being more infectious then it causes "more" serious illness and death!How does one know how each individual will react if infected with the different strains?One could also say there is no evidence that it doesn't cause more serious illness for the majority of people who become infected.