WHO approves Sinovac COVID-19 vaccine, 2nd Chinese-made dose listed

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9 minutes ago, friendofthai said:

I can show you a simple reason. There are two models of the world order - the neocolonial model and the  model of multiple sovereign countries. The world is balancing between the two models and that provoke growing military tensions between those countries that like the neocolonial model and others that would prefer the  model of multiple sovereign countries.

The colonial/neocolonial model suggests that there should be a 2 groups of countries in this world:
1. Countries with superior rights - they could be called "metropolises", "developed countries" etc
2. Countries with inferior rights - they could be called "colonies", "vassals", "developing countries" etc

The model of multiple sovereign countries suggests that China Russia Iran and, maybe, some European countries would get true sovereignty and independence.

WHO is using such terms as  "developed countries" "developing countries" too often that ( in opinion of China and Russia) clearly demonstrates her belonging to the neocolonial model in which China is a "developing country" with inferior rights. Of course China wants to become a country with superior rights. But to accomplish this in the colonial model, China should have its vassals or its own dependent countries, which is a natural thing for any western country but against Chinese main principles. So China prefers to move towards the model of sovereign countries in which there is no place for neocolonial institutions such as WHO.

Lots of silly assertions here. Impugning of motives based on economic classificattions of different countires.

. But given that China and Russia are both engaged in aggressive territorial expansion against their neighbors, your argument is ridiculous.

[friendofthai]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

But given that China and Russia are both engaged in aggressive territorial expansion against their neighbors, your argument is ridiculous.

When Russia expands, all the new people become the new citizens with the same rights as other citizens. Can you imagine that all the Indians of the British empire would had have the same rights as people who lived in London? It was simply impossible.

[holy cow cm]

1 hour ago, bangon04 said:

and will the CCP approve western vaccines for entering China? 

Sure why not, but not without heavy duties. And because of internal anti West propaganda being pounded to the folk there, there is no one going to touch it anyway. The USA doesn't need their stuff as is doing quite well with Moderna, Pfizer and J&J coming back out into the mainstream.  Seriously strained relations. And if you read the news today, some Chinese government  mouthpiece called for China to get ready for Nuclear war if the USA presses further into the real origin of where Covid 19 came from. How about those Nuclear holocausts apples? 

[Nojohndoe]

10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Lots of silly assertions here. Impugning of motives based on economic classificattions of different countires.

. But given that China and Russia are both engaged in aggressive territorial expansion against their neighbors, your argument is ridiculous.

Why so ? The US has had a history of aggressive territorial invasion itself . That it has finally run out of justification in far places apart from continuation of  presence and in increasing lessening general  support of is a factor in the validity of the opinion.

[Fromas]

I sympathize, but off topic opinion discussions can be tacked on to any thread.

 

Sinovac? Chinese trojan horses, vaccine diplomacy....

AstraZeneca? UK rejects, colonial masters.....

Pfizer? US new world order, pharma domination.....

 

and on and on and on.

 

I think Pub Section is a more suitable space for this.

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51 minutes ago, friendofthai said:

When Russia expands, all the new people become the new citizens with the same rights as other citizens. Can you imagine that all the Indians of the British empire would had have the same rights as people who lived in London? It was simply impossible.

The UK stopped being an expanding colonial power over a century ago. And you think it's okay to take territory from another country as long as you claim to give people the same right as the invading nation's people has? Really?

And you think it's okay to claim an entire sea as belonging to one country based on its colonial past?

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, friendofthai said:

When Russia expands, all the new people become the new citizens with the same rights as other citizens. Can you imagine that all the Indians of the British empire would had have the same rights as people who lived in London? It was simply impossible.

Many Russians can't wait to escape. And for sure, don't want to be conquered if outside side Russia.

 

Indians in the UK have the same rights as any other citizen. It's called democracy.

[Nojohndoe]

14 minutes ago, Fromas said:

I sympathize, but off topic opinion discussions can be tacked on to any thread.

 

Sinovac? Chinese trojan horses, vaccine diplomacy....

AstraZeneca? UK rejects, colonial masters.....

Pfizer? US new world order, pharma domination.....

 

and on and on and on.

 

I think Pub Section is a more suitable space for this.

Ok. So within the strict confines you prescribe to this topic you prefer no associative discussion about aspects  put by others. So what input  do you have to add  that is totally relative to " WHO approves Sinovac COVID-19 vaccine, 2nd Chinese-made  vaccine dose listed" ?

[Lingba]

Who is on first base

[Stargeezr]

Yes I find it amazing that the labs found some vaccines that work for this CIOVID virus and its variants, but some how there has been no cure found for diabetes, after all the years of the labs looking for one.

  You all know the golden goose of diabetes, where people take insulin jabs and pills to control that disease. Of course if the cure was admitted, the golden goose would be gone, and the big pharmas would not get their yearly money, from people all over the world. This is my one conspiracy theory, that there is a cure for diabetes, but we will not be allowed to get it unless we are very rich, or connected.

   Geezer

 

[Phuketboy]

15 hours ago, Tony125 said:

Both Moderna and Pfizer have appliied for full FDA approval

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/01/covid-vaccine-moderna-applies-for-full-fda-approval.html

Yes they applied, However, applied for does not mean approved. 

[Jeffr2]

5 minutes ago, Phuketboy said:

Yes they applied, However, applied for does not mean approved. 

Hopefully full approval will be here before the end of the year.  They're fast tracking the paperwork.  Just like they've been doing for the past year.  Not cutting any corners, just being more efficient.

[EricTh]

On 6/2/2021 at 7:31 AM, HaoleBoy said:

Why isn't the efficacy of Sinovac listed with more details?

Were any papers written and published with peer-reviews done?

 

What is the length between jabs going to do for Thailand - second dose 2-4 weeks later ?  The "know-all" government is stretching the period between jabs way out there ....

 

 

Do you know how they conduct those so-called 'efficacy' test.

 

Data can be manipulated and has nothing to do with real efficacy so as to promote certain vaccines and downgrade others. I've learned not to rely on those reports done/paid by big pharma who is after their own interests.

 

Having a vaccine doesn't mean you won't get infected again, it means that it will protect you from being seriously ill.

 

 

 

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[internationalism]

Anutin has yesterday ordered yet another 11mln of sinovac, coming already from June onwards to August.

But that can also mean, that AZ will be still in short supply, partly because it was contracted to Philippines and the other SE Asia countries

https://www.khaosod.co.th/breaking-news/news_6432337

[Bundooman]

On 6/2/2021 at 8:11 AM, DirtyHarry55 said:

And according to Chulalongkorn and Chinese Media 99.49% patients developed antibodies 4 weeks after receiving 2 shot so that's reassuring.
Not sure how reliable those test results from Brazil, Thailand, Indonesia, Turkey and Pakistan are going to be.
Will also be interesting to see if it's given to any 1st World Countries considering it's relative high price too.
And thank you Thailand for being our Lab Rat's lets see how effective it is in Phuket as I believe 70% of the population have already received it?

 

 

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202106/1225133.shtml

Well, if the Chinese Vax is that good - how about China supplying it free for everyone around the world. 

They provided Covid 19 free - why not the vaccine?

[Hyna]

8 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Yes I find it amazing that the labs found some vaccines that work for this CIOVID virus and its variants, but some how there has been no cure found for diabetes, after all the years of the labs looking for one.

  You all know the golden goose of diabetes, where people take insulin jabs and pills to control that disease. Of course if the cure was admitted, the golden goose would be gone, and the big pharmas would not get their yearly money, from people all over the world. This is my one conspiracy theory, that there is a cure for diabetes, but we will not be allowed to get it unless we are very rich, or connected.

   Geezer

 

The cure for diabetes is well known: lose weight. Eat only healthy food.