1 hour ago, CANSIAM said:

What would be a better choice, Sinovac or home made AZ ? 

neither

17 minutes ago, placeholder said:

In Serrana Brazil after about 75% of the adult population was vaccinated with Coronavac, herd immunity seems to have been established . But in that case about 25% of the population that already been infected so if you do the math it took about 83% of the adult population to be either vaccinated or infected to establish herd immunity

And very nearly half a million dead. 

2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

And very nearly half a million dead. 

Yes, the pandemic is still raging outside of Serrana but not in Serrana. What does that tell you?

Just called Bangpokok hospital to see if my Monday appt is still on-have no AZ, might have some more Sinovac arriving tomorrow not sure, ring on Monday. Foreigner - not sure if can have or not. Shambles due to poor organization, khun nobody's fault as usual. ????

4 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Nobody knows what the long term effect these vaccines will have. My advice would be is wait for the better vaccines.

Your advice assumes that the long term effect of any of the vaccines is known and that the known long term effects are not good.   Neither is the case.

 Maybe you're advocating that waiting for an alternative vaccine that has not yet been invented but is in the works "will be better".  Why?  The long term effects of new vaccines won't be known either!

12 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Today Biden pledged the USA would be giving out 0.5 billion vaccines to the poor countries and the UK said it will give out 100 million. Five of those by September. Other G7 countries will join in for sure. I wonder if Thailand can get on the list. 

Thailand can try and claim to be a poor third world country which deserves to get everything free from the G7. Who will believe them?  

The WHO boss Tedros is much more likely to champion the cause of "poor" African countries, which cannot get the vaccine easily because they are busy slaughtering their citizens in ethnic conflicts.... (Ethiopia/Eritrea/Tigray are quite close to his heart.....).