32 minutes ago, kynikoi said:

Thanks. You're always a trusted source for me on this stuff. Is this the DNA vaccine I'd read about somewhere recently (not mRNA, DNA)?

This a 'viral vector' vaccine different from ones like AZ and Sputnik that contain DNA inside the viral vector shell.

 

In this case, they redesign a virus by adding SARS-2 spikes. Here they use the 'avian' Newcastle disease virus that can't infect humans, but is easily  manufactured in chicken eggs. Here is the bizarre lab recipe how to 'make' the virus.

 

So the whole technology is

1. New, advanced Hexapro spike design superior to Moderna and Pfizer

2. Design a Newcastle disease virus that includes these spikes.

3. Manufacture cheaply in chicken eggs.

 

Provide this cheap, superior technology to the world.

Optional: send  som nam na message to Pfizer, Moderna

9 hours ago, Swimfan said:

Don't recall anything about ICUs filling to capacity, Countries running out of Oxygen, Refrigeration trailers outside hospitals for makeshift morgues and crematoriums running around the clock. 

Did i miss something ?  

Yes you missed 44,500 deaths. 

1 hour ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

But  apparently we  are  not  allowed to mention that most  people who get covid DONT need  hospitalisation.

 

But we are allowed to mention that the Thai government today estimated that about 5% of all COVID cases will end up with severe respiratory problems and thus require critical care hospitalization.

 

And at the current rate of 6,000 plus new COVID cases PER DAY, that would mean an added 300 critical care patients needing care each and every day in a hospital system that's already basically run out of critical care beds....

 

So the fact that the majority of all COVID cases (more than half) don't end up requiring hospitalization (though a goodly share do) becomes pretty meaningless in that context.

 

 

1 hour ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

But  apparently we  are  not  allowed to mention that most  people who get covid DONT need  hospitalisation.

I don’t recall anyone saying that most do need to go to hospital or that we are not allowed to mention it. But unfortunately a significant number do require hospitalization.. That number is already putting pressure on the health system particularly ICU capacity. If that number continues to increase it won’t be just Covid patients struggling to get treatment and dying. 
Only the narrow minded think is just about number of deaths and fail to see the bigger picture and long term consequences. 

34 minutes ago, Daithi85 said:

Yes you missed 44,500 deaths. 

Global flu deaths range 300k and 665k

a year yet Covid caused about 3 million in one year. 
So your point is??

My school is closed and basically has been for 7 months. All teachers have now been told to do online from home. Cannot come to school. Many have families in other provineces but have been told not to travel to their home provinces. Local temple still receiving bodies daily for cremation via biosecure ambulances everyone including monks in full PPE. Said not to be Thai. My wife is scared and thinks Prayut is an idiot. "Why open Phuket?" she says.  "Stupid Prayut." Well what can I say to all of this except a maniac is bringing Thailand to it's knees. Open Thailand fully in October? Absolutely no chance.

2 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

But  apparently we  are  not  allowed to mention that most  people who get covid DONT need  hospitalisation.

Irrelevant if the total numbers of infection increases, so that the percent who do require hospitalization overwhelm the system.

38 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Irrelevant if the total numbers of infection increases, so that the percent who do require hospitalization overwhelm the system.

System is already overwhelmed, hospitals in BKK are full and people waiting for beds, 144 new doctors being conscripted straight out of school to help.  It is truly a mess, I hope you can see now what we have been talking about since just before Songkran has come to fruition and they are not even truly testing.  It is a sad reality.

More confirmation today via Reuters that the promised 10 million doses a month of locally produced AZ vaccine for Thailand is likely to end up instead being about 5 million doses instead -- as prior posts here have reported.

 

"Thailand was expecting 10 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine to be delivered this month, but the head of its vaccine institute, Nakorn Premsri, said he was notified about half of that would be delivered monthly until September.

 

AstraZeneca's Thai partner, royal-owned Siam Bioscience, can produce about 15 million doses monthly, but part of that is committed to other countries, Nakorn said.

 

Siam Bioscience and AstraZeneca have repeatedly declined to discuss reports of production shortfalls."

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1222563-thailand-to-vaccinate-vulnerable-groups-faster-as-critical-cases-rise/

 

An off-topic and unsourced post has been removed, along with a reply.

 

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/doctor-shares-photos-of-people-camping-out-for-covid-19-treatment-in-bangkok/

 

A doctor has shared pictures of people camping outside a hospital in hopes of getting a bed for COVID-19 treatment.

 

 Thiravat Hemachudha, neurologist and director of the Health Science Centre of Emerging Diseases at Chulalongkorn University, on Thursday night shared images of people camping outside the Ramathibodi Hospital in Bangkok. “At least these people who cannot get access to hospital’s treatment should be provided with favipiravir to take at home,” Thiravat wrote, referring to antiviral medication used to treat COVID-19 patients. ...

 

 The post was shared more than 1,700 times on Facebook with many comments expressing their bitterness toward the government while others asked the doctor about medication or herbs they can use to treat coronavirus at home.  Despite the government ensuring that there are enough beds for “severely affected” patients during the third-wave outbreak, there have been many complaints from people who said that they couldn’t find a bed at hospitals for themselves or their loved ones.

 

The village in which my elderly mother in law lives, in Udon Thani, is organizing group sessions at the temple to teach the people how to make Covid treatments out of herbs.

 

sad that in this day and age communities have to resort to this type of witch doctor practices especially when the vaccines do actually exist. I just hope they wear masks at the sessions.

I just got a message from one of my grade 5 students.

 

"Hello Teacher, I'm sick with covid 19, I  must to go in the hospital and come back when I'm feeling better."

 

Right now there are some tears in my eyes. 

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

More confirmation today via Reuters that the promised 10 million doses a month of locally produced AZ vaccine for Thailand is likely to end up instead being about 5 million doses instead -- as prior posts here have reported.

 

"Thailand was expecting 10 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine to be delivered this month, but the head of its vaccine institute, Nakorn Premsri, said he was notified about half of that would be delivered monthly until September.

 

AstraZeneca's Thai partner, royal-owned Siam Bioscience, can produce about 15 million doses monthly, but part of that is committed to other countries, Nakorn said.

 

Siam Bioscience and AstraZeneca have repeatedly declined to discuss reports of production shortfalls."

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1222563-thailand-to-vaccinate-vulnerable-groups-faster-as-critical-cases-rise/

 

“Thailand has been rushing to secure supplies from other sources, including mRNA vaccines of Moderna and Pfizer and BioNTech.”

 

rushing? They have dragged their feet for months! Not a single dose has arrived in Thailand afaik.

 

and suddenly they now realize they should have been vaccinating the at risk groups first? Like every other country that I know has done. But here they chase the elusive unicorn tourist, that won’t come in any case, because they didn’t “rush” fast enough to get vaccine supplies.

 

sometimes I get so mad at the stupidity of it all.

26 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

and suddenly they now realize they should have been vaccinating the at risk groups first? Like every other country that I know has done. But here they chase the elusive unicorn tourist, that won’t come in any case, because they didn’t “rush” fast enough to get vaccine supplies.

 

As the Reuters report correctly notes:

 

"Health authorities had initially aimed to vaccinate those groups first, but supplies were diverted to factory workers, communities with big outbreaks, and the population of the island of Phuket ahead of this week's reopening to foreign tourists."

 

And meanwhile, even as of today, we have lots of age 60+ expats/foreign nationals here in Thailand who desperately want to get vaccinated and have absolutely nowhere to go in many instances.

 

3 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

organizing group sessions

even  more ridiculous is  gathering people together in "group sessions" that should  spread it nicely.

5 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

even  more ridiculous is  gathering people together in "group sessions" that should  spread it nicely.

I haven’t seen the sessions. Whether they socially distance and wear masks, I don’t know. If they do it’s the herb cure idea that is the more ridiculous.

Thailand reports 6,230 new COVID-19 cases, 41 more deaths

File photo: REUTERS

 

Thailand on Saturday (July 3) reported 6,230 new COVID-19 cases and 41 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. 

 

Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1222599-thailand-reports-6230-new-covid-19-cases-41-more-deaths/

 

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