29 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Is there no defence of "truth" allowed?

Not in Thailand.

 

Can also lose elsewhere, as per this "famous" case in Australia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Angel_defamation_case

When an elected government needs laws to protect itself from words, you've lost.

 

When you have to use laws as a hammer to pound down criticism, you've lost.

 

When you feel that the words of an 18-YO woman somehow threaten your power, you've lost.

 

 

The regime looks more petty, ineffective and incompetent each day.

 

Soon it will be tank-time.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 23, 20214 yr by mtls2005

When you Fail to Plan you plan to fail.  Justifiable criticism

1 minute ago, mtls2005 said:

Soon it will be tank-time.

You think his own will move against him after he reserved so many seats in Senate for military into perpetuity?

Even though all senators are appointed by the "elected" government.

 

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The trend of celebrities calling out the government on various issues on their social media, which have huge followings, known as “Celeb Callouts”, has been intensified by a lawsuit filed by Mr. Prayut’s lawyer against a rapper “Milli” over her online posts targeting the government and the prime minister. The Thai hashtag #SaveMilli has been used in over a million tweets.

The truth must not be made public... big brother in action.

One more time:

 

11 hours ago, metisdead said:

Please use discretion in your references to the government. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed.

 

A post with disguised vulgar language has been removed:

 

8.) You will not post disruptive or inflammatory messages, vulgarities, obscenities or profanities.

 

A post using a trolling image has been removed. 

 

 

A post with offensive Nazi comparisons has been removed.

19 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

When an elected government needs laws to protect itself from words, you've lost.

 

When you have to use laws as a hammer to pound down criticism, you've lost.

 

When you feel that the words of an 18-YO women somehow threaten your power, you've lost.

 

 

The regime looks more petty, ineffective and incompetent each day.

 

Soon it will be tank-time.

 

 

 

 

 

The next Myanmar

50 minutes ago, Thaiophil said:

The plucky Ms Milli should thank the govt and plod. They just added millions to her social media following (me included) and boosted her career.  

I hope the relatively small fine does not deter anybody... personally i think it should be 1 baht in these cases. Costs awarded to the plaintiff .

Edited July 23, 20214 yr by jacko45k

Despite all her faults, America still benefits from 1st Amendment rights.  Living here, you can see the difference.

one of the first things I learned when I began working in thailand was that the problem isnt the problem.

 

The problem is the person who is pointing out the problem.

 

And an even more egregious problem was assigning blame for the problem.

In the current times, any form of criticism must be met with the full force of the Regime's powers, it's laws, and emergency powers.

 

If they don't put down criticism in the early days it will blossom into, well something they don't want, a better, more equal society.

 

In addition to these artists and celebrities, the regime also indicted some thirteen protesters for Lese Majeste and Sedition yesterday for their part in the German Embassy event. (The rival minion event organizers were fined 200 baht for unauthorized use of a loudspeaker).

 

 

13 protesters from October rally at German embassy indicted for lèse majesté, sedition

 

Thirteen anti-establishment protesters were formally indicted by public prosecutors this morning (Thursday) on lèse majesté and sedition charges, in accordance with Sections 112 and 116 of the Thai Criminal Code, for their roles in the protest in front of the German Embassy in Bangkok on October 26th last year.

 

On October 26th, 2020, the protesters submitted a petition to the German Embassy, demanding that the German government investigate whether HM the King of Thailand had exercised his powers on German soil. The petition letter was accepted by embassy officials.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/13-protesters-from-october-rally-at-german-embassy-indicted-for-lese-majeste-sedition/

"Please use discretion in your references to the government. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed."

 

Now that this is ASEAN forum, should we expect that this also applies when talking about other nations in ASEAN? It sure limits free speech and truth around ASEAN, but what can we do but comply. 

"I will miss XXXXXX a lot, but the situation has deteriorated too fast so I have to go."

I saw that in the news today, but it could apply to China, Hong Kong, Cambodia, Myanmar and now Thailand. 

As far as tough army generals go, he is a surprisingly thin-skinned sissy and easily hurt in his feelings.

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

13 protesters from October rally at German embassy indicted for lèse majesté, sedition

Although some guy issued a directive saying he didnt want anyone prosecuted under the lese majeste laws.......the megalomaniacs still decide to ignore that and use this ruling to control the people.

14 hours ago, rabas said:

18 years old and vaxxed. 

 

Milli Phuckitol? I think Prayut has found his match.

Instagram MILLI@phuckitol   facebook: Phuckitol Phuckitol

Is the surname real? 555

3 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

In the current times, any form of criticism must be met with the full force of the Regime's powers, it's laws, and emergency powers.

 

If they don't put down criticism in the early days it will blossom into, well something they don't want, a better, more equal society.

 

In addition to these artists and celebrities, the regime also indicted some thirteen protesters for Lese Majeste and Sedition yesterday for their part in the German Embassy event. (The rival minion event organizers were fined 200 baht for unauthorized use of a loudspeaker).

 

 

13 protesters from October rally at German embassy indicted for lèse majesté, sedition

 

Thirteen anti-establishment protesters were formally indicted by public prosecutors this morning (Thursday) on lèse majesté and sedition charges, in accordance with Sections 112 and 116 of the Thai Criminal Code, for their roles in the protest in front of the German Embassy in Bangkok on October 26th last year.

 

On October 26th, 2020, the protesters submitted a petition to the German Embassy, demanding that the German government investigate whether HM the King of Thailand had exercised his powers on German soil. The petition letter was accepted by embassy officials.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/13-protesters-from-october-rally-at-german-embassy-indicted-for-lese-majeste-sedition/

Looks like the freedom of speech in a democratic style of government has gone up in smoke.  No one can be critical of anyone anymore herein or they face either LM or defamation charges by this government in abid to silence its critics.  In other countries the truth eventually finds it way into the main part of society and is mostly just ignored by those in power until the next election when they are swept out on their rears and replaced.  Unfortunately that can not occur here based upon the rewrites of the constitution and the fact this former Junta led government have given themselves immunity from prosecution, and of course installed more of their own in the senate that thus has an overwhelming majority to squash whatever dissent in parliament is brought up.  Truthfully, this is bordering on becoming a totalitarian society much like a few country surround Thailand.  If I am wrong in my view I apologize to those who believe it to be different.

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

18-year-old Danupha Khanatheerakul reported to police today to hear the charge of defamation. She was fined 2,000 Baht.

If I can get the same low price, I will defame the PM on a weekly basis.

an inflammatory post has been removed

48 minutes ago, Caldera said:

If I can get the same low price, I will defame the PM on a weekly basis.

 

Unless she releases a rap version of prayut's 12 core values, she will be indicted/charged, guaranteed.

 

 

The problem is that soldiers are used to their orders being carried out without contradiction. That might make sense in a war situation. However, in all other social situations where people try to find the best solution for everyone through critical discussion, the military concept fails. Add nepotism, corruption, lack of transparency, shadow economy and appointed people without expertise, then the decline of a country is finally inevitable.

What a nasty little man, hiding behind his committee.

Using taxpayers money to sue taxpayers, surely illegal.

If you want to serve the public then public criticism goes with the territory.

If you want to be a private citizen, which the majority of the population prefer then you can behave like one and use neanderthal laws to sue.

Nothing lasts forever, especially for usurpers.

2 hours ago, Caldera said:

If I can get the same low price, I will defame the PM on a weekly basis.

Yup, it's quite the steal. I could easily afford 1 defamation per day and still have enough to live. And with a crowdfunding campaign to financially back me up... oh my!

19 hours ago, connda said:

2000 THB.  I guess the benefits outweigh the risks.  <laughs>

It would appear the police have decided to bypass the courts . 

18 hours ago, rabas said:

18 years old and vaxxed. 

 

Milli Phuckitol? I think Prayut has found his match.

Instagram MILLI@phuckitol   facebook: Phuckitol Phuckitol

looks  like Clarence

Mtls2005 said, 'When you feel that the words of an 18-YO woman somehow threaten your power, you've lost.'

The New Rap Against Dictatorship song is the explosive. No 2000 baht fines for these people.

So sad.   How can someone not see this is just fanning the flames of dissent and protests.   What about the lies of stating 1 shot is vaccinated in Phuket.  And if new cases hit 13, which has been exceeded, the sandbox would close. 

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

You mean the current DPRT where free speech is punished, truth is punished and lies are accepted as truths and people are forced to believe them, yep Amazing Thailand.  My heart goes out to all of my friends here in Thailand and their families who are suffering at the hands of this Junta lead Government.

Not  good idea to suggest that Thailand is a Republic !!!

2 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

looks  like Clarence

You defame Clarence!

10 hours ago, Salerno said:

Not in Thailand.

 

Can also lose elsewhere, as per this "famous" case in Australia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Angel_defamation_case

that's right. the fact that I killed my wife is no defense against the defamation charges I bring against you for spreading that news