Salerno Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Is there no defence of "truth" allowed? Not in Thailand. Can also lose elsewhere, as per this "famous" case in Australia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Angel_defamation_case 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) When an elected government needs laws to protect itself from words, you've lost. When you have to use laws as a hammer to pound down criticism, you've lost. When you feel that the words of an 18-YO woman somehow threaten your power, you've lost. The regime looks more petty, ineffective and incompetent each day. Soon it will be tank-time. Edited July 23, 2021 by mtls2005 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Asquith Production Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 When you Fail to Plan you plan to fail. Justifiable criticism 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, mtls2005 said: Soon it will be tank-time. You think his own will move against him after he reserved so many seats in Senate for military into perpetuity? Even though all senators are appointed by the "elected" government. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The trend of celebrities calling out the government on various issues on their social media, which have huge followings, known as “Celeb Callouts”, has been intensified by a lawsuit filed by Mr. Prayut’s lawyer against a rapper “Milli” over her online posts targeting the government and the prime minister. The Thai hashtag #SaveMilli has been used in over a million tweets. The truth must not be made public... big brother in action. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 One more time: 11 hours ago, metisdead said: Please use discretion in your references to the government. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed. A post with disguised vulgar language has been removed: 8.) You will not post disruptive or inflammatory messages, vulgarities, obscenities or profanities. A post using a trolling image has been removed. A post with offensive Nazi comparisons has been removed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: When an elected government needs laws to protect itself from words, you've lost. When you have to use laws as a hammer to pound down criticism, you've lost. When you feel that the words of an 18-YO women somehow threaten your power, you've lost. The regime looks more petty, ineffective and incompetent each day. Soon it will be tank-time. The next Myanmar 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Thaiophil said: The plucky Ms Milli should thank the govt and plod. They just added millions to her social media following (me included) and boosted her career. I hope the relatively small fine does not deter anybody... personally i think it should be 1 baht in these cases. Costs awarded to the plaintiff . Edited July 23, 2021 by jacko45k 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Isaan sailor Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 Despite all her faults, America still benefits from 1st Amendment rights. Living here, you can see the difference. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poskat Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 one of the first things I learned when I began working in thailand was that the problem isnt the problem. The problem is the person who is pointing out the problem. And an even more egregious problem was assigning blame for the problem. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 In the current times, any form of criticism must be met with the full force of the Regime's powers, it's laws, and emergency powers. If they don't put down criticism in the early days it will blossom into, well something they don't want, a better, more equal society. In addition to these artists and celebrities, the regime also indicted some thirteen protesters for Lese Majeste and Sedition yesterday for their part in the German Embassy event. (The rival minion event organizers were fined 200 baht for unauthorized use of a loudspeaker). 13 protesters from October rally at German embassy indicted for lèse majesté, sedition Thirteen anti-establishment protesters were formally indicted by public prosecutors this morning (Thursday) on lèse majesté and sedition charges, in accordance with Sections 112 and 116 of the Thai Criminal Code, for their roles in the protest in front of the German Embassy in Bangkok on October 26th last year. On October 26th, 2020, the protesters submitted a petition to the German Embassy, demanding that the German government investigate whether HM the King of Thailand had exercised his powers on German soil. The petition letter was accepted by embassy officials. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/13-protesters-from-october-rally-at-german-embassy-indicted-for-lese-majeste-sedition/ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooBigToFit Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 "Please use discretion in your references to the government. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed." Now that this is ASEAN forum, should we expect that this also applies when talking about other nations in ASEAN? It sure limits free speech and truth around ASEAN, but what can we do but comply. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 "I will miss XXXXXX a lot, but the situation has deteriorated too fast so I have to go." I saw that in the news today, but it could apply to China, Hong Kong, Cambodia, Myanmar and now Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Misterwhisper Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 As far as tough army generals go, he is a surprisingly thin-skinned sissy and easily hurt in his feelings. 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sapson Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, mtls2005 said: 13 protesters from October rally at German embassy indicted for lèse majesté, sedition Although some guy issued a directive saying he didnt want anyone prosecuted under the lese majeste laws.......the megalomaniacs still decide to ignore that and use this ruling to control the people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grusa Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 14 hours ago, rabas said: 18 years old and vaxxed. Milli Phuckitol? I think Prayut has found his match. Instagram MILLI@phuckitol facebook: Phuckitol Phuckitol Is the surname real? 555 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 hours ago, mtls2005 said: In the current times, any form of criticism must be met with the full force of the Regime's powers, it's laws, and emergency powers. If they don't put down criticism in the early days it will blossom into, well something they don't want, a better, more equal society. In addition to these artists and celebrities, the regime also indicted some thirteen protesters for Lese Majeste and Sedition yesterday for their part in the German Embassy event. (The rival minion event organizers were fined 200 baht for unauthorized use of a loudspeaker). 13 protesters from October rally at German embassy indicted for lèse majesté, sedition Thirteen anti-establishment protesters were formally indicted by public prosecutors this morning (Thursday) on lèse majesté and sedition charges, in accordance with Sections 112 and 116 of the Thai Criminal Code, for their roles in the protest in front of the German Embassy in Bangkok on October 26th last year. On October 26th, 2020, the protesters submitted a petition to the German Embassy, demanding that the German government investigate whether HM the King of Thailand had exercised his powers on German soil. The petition letter was accepted by embassy officials. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/13-protesters-from-october-rally-at-german-embassy-indicted-for-lese-majeste-sedition/ Looks like the freedom of speech in a democratic style of government has gone up in smoke. No one can be critical of anyone anymore herein or they face either LM or defamation charges by this government in abid to silence its critics. In other countries the truth eventually finds it way into the main part of society and is mostly just ignored by those in power until the next election when they are swept out on their rears and replaced. Unfortunately that can not occur here based upon the rewrites of the constitution and the fact this former Junta led government have given themselves immunity from prosecution, and of course installed more of their own in the senate that thus has an overwhelming majority to squash whatever dissent in parliament is brought up. Truthfully, this is bordering on becoming a totalitarian society much like a few country surround Thailand. If I am wrong in my view I apologize to those who believe it to be different. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Caldera Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: 18-year-old Danupha Khanatheerakul reported to police today to hear the charge of defamation. She was fined 2,000 Baht. If I can get the same low price, I will defame the PM on a weekly basis. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 an inflammatory post has been removed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, Caldera said: If I can get the same low price, I will defame the PM on a weekly basis. Unless she releases a rap version of prayut's 12 core values, she will be indicted/charged, guaranteed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomacht8 Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 The problem is that soldiers are used to their orders being carried out without contradiction. That might make sense in a war situation. However, in all other social situations where people try to find the best solution for everyone through critical discussion, the military concept fails. Add nepotism, corruption, lack of transparency, shadow economy and appointed people without expertise, then the decline of a country is finally inevitable. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andycoops Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 What a nasty little man, hiding behind his committee. Using taxpayers money to sue taxpayers, surely illegal. If you want to serve the public then public criticism goes with the territory. If you want to be a private citizen, which the majority of the population prefer then you can behave like one and use neanderthal laws to sue. Nothing lasts forever, especially for usurpers. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Caldera said: If I can get the same low price, I will defame the PM on a weekly basis. Yup, it's quite the steal. I could easily afford 1 defamation per day and still have enough to live. And with a crowdfunding campaign to financially back me up... oh my! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotelbri Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 19 hours ago, connda said: 2000 THB. I guess the benefits outweigh the risks. <laughs> It would appear the police have decided to bypass the courts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 18 hours ago, rabas said: 18 years old and vaxxed. Milli Phuckitol? I think Prayut has found his match. Instagram MILLI@phuckitol facebook: Phuckitol Phuckitol looks like Clarence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneking Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Mtls2005 said, 'When you feel that the words of an 18-YO woman somehow threaten your power, you've lost.' The New Rap Against Dictatorship song is the explosive. No 2000 baht fines for these people. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 So sad. How can someone not see this is just fanning the flames of dissent and protests. What about the lies of stating 1 shot is vaccinated in Phuket. And if new cases hit 13, which has been exceeded, the sandbox would close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDinosaw Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: You mean the current DPRT where free speech is punished, truth is punished and lies are accepted as truths and people are forced to believe them, yep Amazing Thailand. My heart goes out to all of my friends here in Thailand and their families who are suffering at the hands of this Junta lead Government. Not good idea to suggest that Thailand is a Republic !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grusa Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said: looks like Clarence You defame Clarence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poskat Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Salerno said: Not in Thailand. Can also lose elsewhere, as per this "famous" case in Australia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Angel_defamation_case that's right. the fact that I killed my wife is no defense against the defamation charges I bring against you for spreading that news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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