club Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: Heading into August with terrible statistics that show no signs of waning. With the hospitals already at breaking point the situation can only get worse. The images coming from some hospitals are akin to a war zone. The medics need support and the patients need the government to visit the hospitals and tell them why they will be dying waiting for a bed. 17,970 new cases with 175 of those from prisons. 178 COVID deaths. Rolling 7 day average up till 31st July. Community cases chart from official figures. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand patients need the government to visit the hospitals and tell them why they will be dying waiting for a bed. 17,970 new cases with 175 of those from prisons. 178 COVID deaths. You know that will never happen. Very sad 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: There are hundreds of photos and videos of yesterday's protest on social media. I could hear them from my office in Centralworld. It was another in the regular anti-government protests, although to be more Covid-aware it was mostly motorbikes and cars. It also turned nasty later on in the day. Just do a Twitter search. Thanks Brewster, I have seen it myself on social media, my point was the rest of the world is seeing it now for what it truly is and those in the US are getting concerned for all who live in this country and believe it might end up like an event in a country, who has its claws into this government, many years ago with Tanks. Edited August 2, 2021 by ThailandRyan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, ChipButty said: Absolute chaos around Bangkok hospitals many people cannot get a bed 5 days it took to get my BiL into a bed the first one should have been Saturday morning after 2 and half hours to be sent home and wait for a call later in the day, we eventually found another hospital that would take him Sunday morning his friends got him there at 8 am and he was admitted right away thats good for him, The first hospital never called back, I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago, when people were claiming that hospitals were full. Actually, there were beds available (obviously because more people were admitted), but the system for allocating the infected to hospital beds is weak, if not inoperable. So, I am sure that even today there may be a hospital that has empty beds, with no intake system to fill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
club Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Last night as we went for a long walk, while going to the market to get a few groceries, the number of newly homeless people, lining the sidewalks under the stairwells to the crossroad walkways on Sukhumvit was staggering. Looks like many who are unemployed were booted out of their modest homes where my GF said many were probably only paying between 2k and 3k a month in rent. Sad to see no social safety net for this country. Families dropping of Covid infected parents at temples, people now living on the streets because they do not want to infect family and so on. I think Thailand is pretty close to the breaking point. Just was sent a video, by a friend in the US, of a protest and near riot held last night with the Thai police lobbing gas canisters at the crowds as well as a large moving protest on motorbikes and in cars. He indicated the video was from a live news feed that he captured. People in other countries are starting to see Thailand for what is really happening here and thus is why the good PM has now decided that even true news is fake and to charge all who show such with a crime. I have not observed any news on the protests except of a few still photos. I do not dare post the video here. Sad to see no social safety net for this country. They cant even pay for vaccines , but they can buy Submarines from China 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, jacko45k said: I usually like to see some optimism.... but in this case I am afraid not. We have had such results after the weekend before, only to see it bump up after a few days...... Optimism kinda hard to do: suppose 17970/4 = 4492 are delta. Suppose the R0 is 4 Now go forward 8 days. The generation interval ( the time between infection events in an infector-infectee pair in the transmission chain) * see graph in figure link. Is about 3.5 days. So the exponent of growth is 8days/3.5 days gen.int.= 2.28. Then in eight days by the data and math the total new infections: 4492(4)^2.28 = 105,958. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32145466/#:~:text=Limiting our data to only,than its median incubation period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Thanks Brewster, but I have seen it myself on social media, my point was the rest of the world is seeing it now for what it truly is and those in the US are getting concerned for all who live in this country and believe it might end up like an event in a country, who has its claws into this government, many years ago with Tanks. I'm not sure I see your point unless you're saying that yesterday's protest was Covid related. The international coverage of the anti-government protests in Bangkok months ago was extensive. Maybe you're unable to say what you really mean, which of course is understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sapson Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: The medics need support and the patients need the government to visit the hospitals and tell them why they will be dying waiting for a bed. Sad situation caused by extreme negligence, greed, mismanagement and the Im alright Jack attitude that prevails. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post club Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Thanks Brewster, but I have seen it myself on social media, my point was the rest of the world is seeing it now for what it truly is and those in the US are getting concerned for all who live in this country and believe it might end up like an event in a country, who has its claws into this government, many years ago with Tanks. The US government proved their loyalty to us by not sending vaccines to ALL Americans (9 million) living and working in other countries , but I do have many family members asking me when i am coming home 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: I'm not sure I see your point unless you're saying that yesterday's protest was Covid related. The international coverage of the anti-government protests in Bangkok months ago was extensive. Maybe you're unable to say what you really mean, which of course is understandable. Yes, I meant Covid related, as well as the removal of the PM, sorry I did not make that clear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, club said: The US government proved their loyalty to us by not sending vaccines to ALL Americans (9 million) living and working in other countries , but I do have many family members asking me when i am coming home 2 phone calls today on that subject as well, and not understanding why I am choosing to stay here. Hard to explain to someone whose whole life is far away that they should just pack up and go. I do not feel that my life is in danger here, or that of my GF. I have lived here through the 2010 protests and Coup as well as the 2014 protests and Coup. The Covid response and handling is just another component now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi85 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Caldera said: They should have suspended the lottery, as they did last year. Yesterday, I saw dozens of people crowding around lottery ticket sellers, with the usual chatting and shouting. Hardly essential. Ohh no, people chatting I can't believe it.. Unbelievable. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, Daithi85 said: Ohh no, people chatting I can't believe it.. Unbelievable. Whats unbelievable is missing out the point he made: "dozens of people crowding around lottery ticket sellers, with the usual chatting and shouting. Hardly essential." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: 2 phone calls today on that subject as well, and not understanding why I am choosing to stay here. Hard to explain to someone whose whole life is far away that they should just pack up and go. I do not feel that my life is in danger here, or that of my GF. I have lived here through the 2010 protests and Coup as well as the 2014 protests and Coup. The Covid response and handling is just another component now. It seems like many people are getting out of Bangkok, we got a booking for our condo from yesterday with a woman that lives in BKK and she told me a lot of her friends have done the same, She did the Sandbox I think she was worried BKK goes into complete lock down, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: 41 minutes ago, club said: The US government proved their loyalty to us by not sending vaccines to ALL Americans (9 million) living and working in other countries , but I do have many family members asking me when i am coming home 2 phone calls today on that subject as well, and not understanding why I am choosing to stay here. One of the advantages of no longer having any non-estranged family members back in the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 47 minutes ago, morrobay said: Optimism kinda hard to do: suppose 17970/4 = 4492 are delta. Suppose the R0 is 4 Now go forward 8 days. The generation interval ( the time between infection events in an infector-infectee pair in the transmission chain) * see graph in figure link. Is about 3.5 days. So the exponent of growth is 8days/3.5 days gen.int.= 2.28. Then in eight days by the data and math the total new infections: 4492(4)^2.28 = 105,958. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32145466/#:~:text=Limiting our data to only,than its median incubation period. By now, most all infections would be Delta. Bangkok reported 70% a month ago on July 3. The curve of percent delta rises very fast around 50%. But this just further proves your point. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002795 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 Many recovered asymptomatic, mild cases in Bangkok’s 43 ‘community isolation’ venues go home Many “green” COVID-19 cases, or those who are asymptomatic or with mild symptoms, in Bangkok’s 43 community isolation facilities have returned home after recovering and being cleared of the virus, according to Bangkok City Hall, as Thailand’s daily infection and death rates remain very high. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/many-recovered-asymptomatic-mild-cases-in-bangkoks-43-community-isolation-venues-go-home/ 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Another quiet day for news. Have just returned from a shopping trip and surprised to see this thread still on page 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 hours ago, darksidedog said: With two days slightly lower, you dare to ask yourself if we have seen the peak, or if it was just less testing over the weekend? Or possibly it could be a stall before another barrier of 20,000 per Day has to be published. There was a stall of several days prior to the barrier of 10,000 cases per Day being published, only a couple of weeks ago. If the cases are indeed 20,000,publish that fact, nothing is going to change by holding back the reported numbers. They are what they are sadly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, anchadian said: Another quiet day for news. Have just returned from a shopping trip and surprised to see this thread still on page 2. Probably wouldn't be so quiet if they actually started putting the rapid antigen positive tests in the statistics, the real numbers must be scary......... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: As of yesterday 205,002 patients in care 4,765 in ICU and 1,044 on ventilators Very sad situation for all those affected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 Phuket village goes under lockdown PHUKET: Baan Nanai in Moo 7, Tambon Thepkrasattri, in Thalang District, has been ordered “to close” to contain the spread of COVID-19 after eight local residents in the village were found to be infected, resulting in many local high-risk contacts. “The area is locked [down]. People inside [the area] cannot move out, and outsiders cannot come in,” confirmed the Phuket office of the Public Relations Department (PR Phuket) https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-village-goes-under-lockdown-80898.php 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 46 minutes ago, ChipButty said: It seems like many people are getting out of Bangkok, we got a booking for our condo from yesterday with a woman that lives in BKK and she told me a lot of her friends have done the same, She did the Sandbox I think she was worried BKK goes into complete lock down, My Wife has a few Apartments near Pattaya , and has been told by the Local Tesaban, that she is not allowed to rent out to any new customers. Its the same for all the owners. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, anchadian said: Another quiet day for news. Have just returned from a shopping trip and surprised to see this thread still on page 2. Think some (myself included) bit jaded by the figures. Meaning doubts about their veracity. Aren't the positives taken from walk ins and samples from known clusters along with prisons. Not really random sample. Edited August 2, 2021 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 The Federation of Thai Industries (FTI) is working to acquire more vaccines to speed up vaccination of factory workers as COVID-19 infections spread in their workplaces. FTI chairman Supant Mongkolsuthree said the FTI has submitted urgent requests to Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul and Labor Minister Suchart Chomklin because only 10% of factory workers have, so far, been vaccinated, under an inoculation scheme for workers insured by Section 33 of the Social Security Act. https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158175844517050 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 The two-week extension of the lockdown period and expansion of the "dark red" zone to cover 29 provinces would cost the economy around THB300-400 billion due to lost economic activities, the Thai Chamber of Commerce said on Sunday https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40004077 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 Our political class and political culture must change after the pandemic. We can no longer tolerate a government filled with self- serving profiteers. https://www.thaienquirer.com/30670/opinion-our-political-class-and-political-culture-must-change-after-the-pandemic/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Think some (myself included) bit jaded by the figures. Meaning doubts about their veracity. Aren't the positives taken from walk ins and samples from known clusters along with prisons. Not really random sample. I look at it like it is groundhog day, when yet we do suspect the numbers are higher because of a lack of testing and then could it be the weekend effect, who knows. To see the numbers on ventilators, the deaths, and all of the people on the streets who have been evicted, as well as all of the construction sites running full tilt and traffic like normal, the question is what is really going on. Up country the numbers are shooting skyward...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 The 178 new deaths reported Monday ties Thailand's all-time high for daily COVID deaths, matched only by another 178 deaths two days ago on July 31. Total COVID deaths pass the 5,000 mark for the first time, reaching 5,158. The 17,970 total new COVID cases reported Monday was Thailand's third highest total ever, surpassed only by the prior two days of 18,000+ case counts. The 17,795 general population portion of the total cases reported Monday was Thailand's second highest total ever. COVID patients in critical condition, even with the 178 deaths, still inched upward to a new record high of 4,768 (+3). But, the number of those critical condition patients on ventilators declined from 1,044 to 1,028, certainly due to the high number of deaths for the day. Total active cases / hospitalized patients set another record high reaching 208,875 (+3,873), including 75,705 in traditional hospitals (+1,603), also a new daily record high. The active cases number rose again for the day because the volume of new cases still exceeded the 13,919 COVID patients whom the government released home as recovered. Walk-in patients reported today but counted on Sunday, which typically is a lower activity day, declined to 13,567, down from 15,137 the day before. Don't expect that to continue as we move into the weekdays ahead. https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James105 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: Whats unbelievable is missing out the point he made: "dozens of people crowding around lottery ticket sellers, with the usual chatting and shouting. Hardly essential." But crucially, are they speaking in English though? https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisonescalante/2020/09/08/why-speaking-english-may-spread-more-coronavirus-than-other-languages/?sh=59112d2f6eea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Green Chiretta (Fah Talai Jone) and certain other medicinal herbs are selling like hotcakes in #Thailand now that the public has realized they can help keep #COVID19 at bay. Read more: https://thaip.bs/x8caJpN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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