U.S. CDC urges avoiding travel to Thailand over COVID-19

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FILE PHOTO: A general view of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia September 30, 2014. REUTERS/Tami Chappell

 

By David Shepardson

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) warned on Monday against travel to Israel, France, Thailand, Iceland and several other countries because of a rising number of COVID-19 cases in those nations.

 

The CDC has been adding to its highest "Level 4: Very High" COVID-19 level as cases spread around the globe. The United States added Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, along with other places, including Aruba and French Polynesia.

 

The U.S. State Department also issued its parallel Level 4: Do Not Travel" advisories for Iceland and France on Monday.

 

In July, the CDC had raised concerns about Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, lifting its travel health notice by two levels to "Level 3: High."

 

The CDC also hiked alert levels to "Level 3: High" for Austria, Croatia, El Salvador, Azerbaijan, Guam, Kenya and Jamaica. The CDC says unvaccinated travelers should avoid nonessential travel to those countries.

 

(Reporting by David Shepardson; editing by Jonathan Oatis and Marguerita Choy)

 

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[ukrules]

It's strange at the moment that Israel is on the list considering the very high number of people already vaccinated.

 

Why is that?

[RichardColeman]

With the USA posting the most cases for the last few days I'd imagine those countries are saying don't go to the USA !

[DaveSamutP]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

With the USA posting the most cases for the last few days I'd imagine those countries are saying don't go to the USA !

Unless they want vaccines or jobs, of course. ????

[ThailandRyan]

It was only a matter of time and when it would happen.  Time is of the essence to get tbe vaccines administered to those who want it, or maybe put some teeth in the restrictions already on the books.

[gk10012001]

If one is vaccinated, is there really a big risk to that person?  If there is a risk, then why are vaccinated people in the USA now rarely required to be masked, or stay at home in lockdown, etc.   So wishy washy on how things are handled

[jerrymahoney]

Level 4 Advisory is still only a recommendation and a US citizen returning from Thailand has no more requirements than a US citizen returning from any other country -- a 1-3 day old negative viral/PCR test.

[Tarteso]

Warning again travel to Thailand who has a 6% of vaccinated population…sounds highly logic.

Edited August 9, 2021 by Tarteso

[jacko45k]

3 hours ago, ukrules said:

It's strange at the moment that Israel is on the list considering the very high number of people already vaccinated.

 

Why is that?

A very obvious new wave of infections that started at the end of June, and yesterday reported 5900 new cases. 

[ukrules]

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

A very obvious new wave of infections that started at the end of June, and yesterday reported 5900 new cases. 

Oh, I see, makes sense now.

 

I guess they should have vaccinated more people?

 

 

[jacko45k]

3 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Oh, I see, makes sense now.

 

I guess they should have vaccinated more people?

 

 

If you think the vaccinations prevents infections, I suggest you read up on the topic. 

[Scott]

Inflammatory post and replies removed.

 

[Skeptic7]

53 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

If you think the vaccinations prevents infections, I suggest you read up on the topic. 

Perhaps you should take your own advice. Of course it's never 100% and no one has ever claimed such. However full vax lowers risk of infection substantially..and first dose alone does also, but a bit less so. 

 

New research has found that double vaccinated people were three times less likely than unvaccinated people to test positive for the coronavirus. 

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/227713/coronavirus-infections-three-times-lower-double/

 

A study by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which looked at more than 3,900 essential workers, shows fully vaccinated people are more than 90 percent protected against infection. According to the ongoing study, even partially vaccinated people are 81 per cent less likely to become infected than people who haven't had been inoculated.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/can-fully-vaccinated-people-get-covid-19-again-experts-weigh-in-101624759161283.html

[jacko45k]

5 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

Perhaps you should take your own advice. Of course it's never 100% and no one has ever claimed such

There we go then... thanks for making my point. 

You might read this not from Hindustan.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

Edited August 10, 2021 by jacko45k

[BTB1977]

One more reason out of 50 others for not coming here. 

[ThailandRyan]

 

Travel at your own risk if you believe you must.  Travel is tenuous even when vaccinated no matter what, or when or why you travel.  Every location has a different strain of this or that, and if your immune system is compromised or your worn down vaccines may give you some protection but not keep you from getting the virus.  To stay safe, people should just travel within there known circles and always be safe, especially right now as the Delta and who knows what new variant may be skulking about.

Edited August 10, 2021 by onthedarkside
quote of hidden post removed

[Skeptic7]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

If you think the vaccinations prevents infections, I suggest you read up on the topic. 

Your point above is clearly that vaccinations do not prevent infection. 

 

8 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

There we go then... thanks for making my point. 

You might read this not from Hindustan.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

Now you're agreeing Vax does prevent infection, just not at 100%. Exactly the point I made. 

 

The Hindustan article used data directly from CDC and ECDC and says same. Nothing wrong with it. 

 

While we now apparently agree...that first post where you implied that Vax don't prevent infection is bizarre and confusing. Perhaps you misstated what you intended, but it clearly implies that. 

[chang1]

26 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

There we go then... thanks for making my point. 

You might read this not from Hindustan.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

You both seem to be saying the same thing - vaccines save many lives and reduce infections but don't help everyone. All common knowledge. 

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, Skeptic7 said:

While we now apparently agree...that first post where you implied that Vax don't prevent infection is bizarre and confusing. Perhaps you misstated what you intended, but it clearly implies that. 

Look up 'prevent' in the dictionary and get back to me. 

I believe that is where our differences lie.

I understand a person who has been vaccinated can be infected, but it is quickly eliminated, in the best case scenario. 

[suestra29]

5 hours ago, ukrules said:

It's strange at the moment that Israel is on the list considering the very high number of people already vaccinated.

 

Why is that?

Could be the conflict there 

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) warned on Monday against travel to Israel, France, Thailand, Iceland and several other countries because of a rising number of COVID-19 cases in those nations.

Ouchhhhh !

[chang1]

7 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

To stay safe, people should just travel within there known circles and always be safe, especially right now as the Delta and who knows what new variant may be skulking about.

To stay safe is impossible, just look at Thai roads. Sooner or later you have to weigh up the risks. I'm fully vaccinated and doing the sandbox thing. I have put off things and kept away from people but now judge travel is safe enough for us to get back to normal. Until a vaccine resistant strain comes along there is very low risk to us or our hosts. The anti vaxers have done their best to keep us locked up but we are now free and they are the ones who get left out.

[buick]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The CDC says unvaccinated travelers should avoid nonessential travel to those countries.

does this sentence apply to both level 4 and level 3 rated countries ?  it appears in the last discussion on Level 3 High but maybe they are saying unvaccinated travelers should avoid travel to level 4 and level 3.  does not apply to vaccinated travelers ? 

[ThailandRyan]

Todays cases 19,843, with 235 deaths. 

Sounds like the Travel advisory is warranted still and will be in place for awhile.

[SiSePuede419]

What's wrong with Austria?

 

Historically, their people have been very sensible. ????

[LiamB80]

The UK will likely add Thailand to its red list countries at the next review if the rate of infection continues. Then everyone returning from Thailand will have to pay £2k for quarantine 

[AlQaholic]

With 108,000 new infections daily in the US, who are they talking to?

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

If you think the vaccinations prevents infections, I suggest you read up on the topic. 

Plus the immunity level given depends on the vaccine !!!!

No point boasting nearly 70% have been given something that in reality is doesn't work and is useless.

 

[mberbae]

Lots of Thais are traveling to the USA and getting a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine

within days of arrival.  If Thailand could say the same, there would be no CDC

warning.

[Magenta408]

CDC is about as credible as a unicorn in my favourite pub now closed with the unicorn inside. This has now become a political issue. CDC has very little credibility, very little credibility.