ChulaCov19 Vaccine as Effective as Pfizer’s

[CartagenaWarlock]

On 8/16/2021 at 7:31 AM, Golden Triangle said:

Like most things Thai or Chinese, they copied someone else's work, plenty of articles on here to substantiate what I have said, no I'm not gonna post links, if you've been here long enough you will have seen them, do your own research

What's wrong with copying somebody else's work? More vaccines in the World is better than a small number of suppliers. 

[tomacht8]

Healthy optimism is always good. Novavax is likely to be marketed next. The results of a second phase 3 study from a test group from 29,960 people are available. Very good data. The EU has already ordered 200 million shots. Novavax aims to produce 100 million vaccine doses per month by the end of September.

 

Might also be interesting for an nut in Thailand. Because the rapid development of there own Thai vaccines can also go wrong. 

 

The latest example is CureVacs. Among other things, they were flooded with money by the German state, just like the now successful BioNtec.  

 

CureVacs conducted the phase 3 clinical trial on 40,000 test persons. The results are devastating. Only in younger people did the data show that 77% of the active ingredient can protect against moderate illnesses and 100 percent against hospitalization and death.

In the best case, a niche vaccine.

 

The current examples should show how time consuming and how complex the tests and evaluations on 30-40K people are; and how close success or failure can be.

 

 

[tomacht8]

Healthy optimism is always good. Novavax is likely to be marketed next. The results of a second phase 3 study from a test group from 29,960 people are available. Very good data. The EU has already ordered 200 million shots. Novavax aims to produce 100 million vaccine doses per month by the end of September.

 

Might also be interesting for an nut in Thailand. Because the rapid development of there own Thai vaccines can also go wrong. 

 

The latest example is CureVacs. Among other things, they were flooded with money by the German state, just like the now successful BioNtec.  

 

CureVacs conducted the phase 3 clinical trial on 40,000 test persons. The results are devastating. Only in younger people did the data show that 77% of the active ingredient can protect against moderate illnesses and 100 percent against hospitalization and death.

In the best case, a niche vaccine.

 

The current examples should show how time consuming and how complex the tests and evaluations on 30-40K people are; and how close success or failure can be.

 

 

[jacko45k]

10 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

What's wrong with copying somebody else's work? More vaccines in the World is better than a small number of suppliers. 

Let us hope they maintain the quality standards of the originals in their copies then. Usually corners are cut, savings made and cheaper components and materials are employed.... had personal experience of this that wrecked expensive equipment. 

 

Bought any baby formula lately?

Edited August 18, 2021 by jacko45k

[metisdead]

A post with unsubstantiated statistics has been removed. 

[CartagenaWarlock]

16 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Bought any baby formula lately?

Baby formula does not need any copying. It's very old technology. Quality control is not same as copying recipe. If Q/A is bad it is the Q/A process which is not properly copied.

[CartagenaWarlock]

Here goes all the pfizer love
With the arrival of the contagious Delta variant, Covid hospitalizations and deaths among vaccinated Americans also may have increased, according to preliminary figures.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/health/covid-vaccinated-infections.html

[jacko45k]

4 minutes ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

Baby formula does not need any copying. It's very old technology. Quality control is not same as copying recipe. If Q/A is bad it is the Q/A process which is not properly copied.

Very naïve, it is supplied in containers that copy some original.... in this case melamine was added to to cover up other deficiencies like dilution. 

Edited August 18, 2021 by jacko45k

[Artisi]

19 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

What's wrong with copying somebody else's work? More vaccines in the World is better than a small number of suppliers. 

Nothing is wrong with copying, it's the quality of the end product that's important, not a strong point in China. 

[shdmn]

7 hours ago, Artisi said:

Nothing is wrong with copying, it's the quality of the end product that's important, not a strong point in China. 

They why are so many western brand name products built there?  Everything from car parts to household appliances to air conditioners.  Also, check the labels on your western brand name clothes.  It's an extremely strong point in China.   Just because a lot of cheaply built things come from China does not mean they can't mass produce quality products as well.

 

They tend to be behind the west in innovation but they seem to be getting better at that as well.

Edited August 18, 2021 by shdmn

[cdemundo]

Wow, great.

This is a positive development.

Good for Chula, can't see any reason to be negative about this.

 

[cdemundo]

On 8/16/2021 at 1:59 PM, shdmn said:

So the doom mongers do what they do best, move on to the next shiny object to complain about instead of admit they were wrong, and they are almost ALWAYS wrong.  Now they are beaking off about lack of vaccines. I can guarantee you that will gradually improve.  It already has quite a bit.  So the perpetually wrong doom mongers will just move on from that eventually.

Exactly. Well said.