9 minutes ago, ogb said:

As of today the equation has changed, its now Covid 2 : Pfizer 1

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/04/new-zealand-records-first-covid-related-death-for-200-days

 

Here is a link for the previous post: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/new-zealand-reports-death-woman-after-pfizer-covid-vaccine-2021-08-30/

Your stats are off. More like Covid: 27 vaccines: 3,680,000.

 

Edit: you seemto have ignored this from the Reuters article:

 

The board said the myocarditis "was probably due to vaccination", according to the ministry. The health ministry said other medical issues at the same time could have influenced the outcome after vaccination.

 

 I haven't seen these posters all in one place since the News section was up and running.

 

I never had doubts but was a bit lazy to get it done. Waited a bit longer to get Pfizer rather than Astro Zeneca. Was a bit tempted to get Astro Zeneca as it used old technologies but when Pfizer got fully approved in the US I made the booking. Getting it this week. No cases in my area but still in harsh full lockdown in Melbourne Australia. 

17 hours ago, milys said:

I am so tired of listening to stupid anti-wax morons. You're talking about your rights and whatever BS.

Now it's like this, you're living in a society amongst many people who follow certain rules.

While you're choosing to not get vaccinated is only not your choice.

You destroy for all other people by letting the virus to mutate.

The more people who choose to not get vaccinated are working against the society.

You are giving the virus a much better chance to mutate and finally find a way to even get vaccinated people sick.

You're a disgrace to the society and to your children and loved ones if you don't get vaccinated.

BTW Your rights to choose in this case should be put in a place where the sun don't shine.

We don't let murderers walk around us free, do we ? Why should we let you ?

Something we need to watch out for are escape mutants evading the vaccine......driven by the vaccine

 

Watch this space

7 hours ago, Hummin said:

Im not sure this have been posted here or in another thread, but gives a dr´s view on some of the medicines discussed here 

 

 

Hang on...when I post Youtube vids I get told they are NOT  reliable source of info........

18 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Your stats are off. More like Covid: 27 vaccines: 3,680,000.

 

Edit: you seemto have ignored this from the Reuters article:

 

The board said the myocarditis "was probably due to vaccination", according to the ministry. The health ministry said other medical issues at the same time could have influenced the outcome after vaccination.

 

I don't understand the first part of your post so will reply only to the last part by noting that today's covid death was a person in their 90's - it still counts as a covid death even if "other medical issues at the same time could have influenced the outcome"

  

On 9/1/2021 at 2:29 AM, Jeffr2 said:

Most who are anti vaxxers aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. That's my personal experience.

 

Extremely hard to change their minds. Luckily, they'll soon be stuck at home as it's becoming harder and harder to avoid the jab. Luckily!

After reading your comment I'm more concerned about anti abortionists.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I earnestly hope you luck works out for you, its all you have.  

Thats very kind of you, but luck has little to do with well informed

decisions, thank you anyway.

1 hour ago, talahtnut said:

mRNA vaccines were only an idea for decades.

No mRNA vaccine or drug has ever won correct approval.

Only when the trial period is complete and data is known

would it be wise to make a decision on taking the jab.

Meanwhile I will be observing all you lab-rats with interest.

I do ernestly hope it all goes well for you.

Wow! Your hope is really poweful! For the every 99 unvaccinated folks who die from Covid vs only one  solitary vaccinated person  dies from the same.

Thanks ever so much.

You might want to spare a bit of that potent hope of yours for yourself and the rest of the unvaccinated. As the facts show, you people need it a lot more than the vaccinated do.

On 9/2/2021 at 8:59 AM, bestie said:

It makes me sad when I'm looking on social media where people "laughing" and having none compassion for people anymore who are refusing the vaccine and getting sick or dying.  This seems to be part of the new normal I guess. We lost it on our way. I think nobody wants to end up in a hospital and I understand the fear to getting vaccinated plus there is too much information on the web where everyone can spread their own opinion. 

 

Anyway one information that touched me was this video. 

 

 

Thank you for posting.

If I was an anti-vaxer I would certainly  have second thoughts after watching

20 hours ago, ogb said:

I don't understand the first part of your post so will reply only to the last part by noting that today's covid death was a person in their 90's - it still counts as a covid death even if "other medical issues at the same time could have influenced the outcome"

  

Perhaps. But doesn't seem they are classifying it as a death due to the jab.

 

The first part was showing how many people have been jabbed versus died from covid, or vaccines. Pretty good stats.

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