Warning from Pattaya hotel industry boss of a Chinese takeover, loss of income to the economy

[EricTh]

On 9/11/2021 at 2:59 PM, robert888d said:

China will gradually take over Thailand. IT is only a question of time.

Here's a secret. Ethnic Tai actually came from China, they're not the natives of Thailand.

 

The natives of Thailand are the Mon and Khmer people.

[Leaver]

1 hour ago, EricTh said:

Here's a secret. Ethnic Tai actually came from China, they're not the natives of Thailand.

 

Here's a secret, he's talking about the future, not the past.  

[impulse]

On 9/11/2021 at 5:18 AM, Cake Monster said:

With over 700 Hotels in pattaya, a little thinning out would not go amiss.

The issue being that they're not thinning them out.  They're buying all they can, along with thousands of condos and villas that will be converted to micro-hotels, rented on the Chinese equivalents of AirBNB.  Bringing their own employees, contributing virtually nothing to Thai GDP, and paying no taxes because, how are Thai authorities going to track and tax rent payments that never make it to Thailand?

 

All the guys lamenting that foreigners can't own property are likely to see an overdose in "be careful what you wish for".

 

Just to be clear, I'm not against Chinese tourism.  It brings a ton of money into Thailand as long as Thai laws are followed with regard to ownership percentages, hotel taxes, WP laws, etc.  I'm against permanently selling out the country to get past a devastating but temporary disaster.

Edited October 2, 2021 by impulse

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, Leaver said:

A communist country has the most billionaires in the world.

 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/299513/billionaires-top-countries/

 

So much for everyone being equal under communism.  ????

 

It was said best in "Animal Farm". Something about all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

That book should be required reading in school, with an explanation of the deeper meaning.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

The issue being that they're not thinning them out.  They're buying all they can, along with thousands of condos and villas that will be converted to micro-hotels, rented on the Chinese equivalents of AirBNB.  Bringing their own employees, contributing virtually nothing to Thai GDP, and paying no taxes because, how are Thai authorities going to track and tax rent payments that never make it to Thailand?

 

All the guys lamenting that foreigners can't own property are likely to see an overdose in "be careful what you wish for".

 

Just to be clear, I'm not against Chinese tourism.  It brings a ton of money into Thailand as long as Thai laws are followed with regard to ownership percentages, hotel taxes, WP laws, etc.  I'm against permanently selling out the country to get past a devastating but temporary disaster.

Excellent post.

[mikebell]

On 9/11/2021 at 2:28 PM, petedk said:

When they start to buy the hotels we will see an invasion of Chinese tourists

They invaded two years ago and the pandemic is the result.

[placnx]

On 10/3/2021 at 12:03 AM, EricTh said:

Here's a secret. Ethnic Tai actually came from China, they're not the natives of Thailand.

 

The natives of Thailand are the Mon and Khmer people.

The Tai came South as a result of the Mongol invasion - Yuan Dynasty - long ago. You are right about the Mon, though.

[Leaver]

On 10/3/2021 at 4:25 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

It was said best in "Animal Farm". Something about all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

That book should be required reading in school, with an explanation of the deeper meaning.

 

I would not be surprised if in the future, several decades after I am dead, the next world war is between the haves and the have nots, globally.  

 

Basically, a civil war, across the planet, for equality.  

 

Edited October 8, 2021 by Leaver

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

I would not be surprised if in the future, several decades after I am dead, the next world war is between the haves and the have nots, globally.  

 

Basically, a civil war, across the planet, for equality.  

 

Just think about who has the private armies and most of the guns!

[Leaver]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Just think about who has the private armies and most of the guns!

 

If you look at a country like America, there's a gun in just about every household.   

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

If you look at a country like America, there's a gun in just about every household.   

and in other western countries there aren't. This isn't an American specific forum.

[Leaver]

24 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and in other western countries there aren't. This isn't an American specific forum.

Sure, but given there are more "have nots" than "haves" the sheer weight of numbers means during riots and attacks on enforcement measures means defence forces would struggle to maintain control.  Eg. Arab Spring.

 

That said, I suppose western countries could do a "Tiananmen Square" on its citizens.   

 

It's interesting that since 9/11 the White House has measures to repel an attack by aircraft, but was taken over by protesters.   

 

Edited October 10, 2021 by Leaver