many westerners have nature and culture in their isaan village  bars restaurants and a little of the bright lights is what people are looking for...

So where and who exactly will be checking " all those" tourists for their vaccination paperwork and more to the point, which tourists will be wandering around with their vaccination paperwork tucked into their passports ? 

7 hours ago, ezzra said:

If all entertainment venues will remain shut, you can take all your lofty dreams of millions of tourists coming back and throw them to the bin, i'm yet to meet any tourists whom, when in Thailand, didn't ventured out at night for a look see and to 'walking streets' throughout Thailand and sit somewhere for a cold beer and enjoy the hustle and bustle of the bars, restaurants and cafe scene and the atmosphere of the place that's make Thailand so unique...

Whilst I agree with your post 100 %, I cannot help feeling that too many people are going overboard with the opening of Pattaya and other resorts.

In order for the  " Hustlle and Bustle " that you describe to be seen, it needs a spark. and that spark will be large amunts of Money flying around.

Many seem to think that on October 1st, the Tarmac on the Aiport runways is going to melt with all the Planes landing, full to capacity with high rolling Tourists that will spend their entire life savings in Thailand during their 2/3 week Holiday.

I wish the opening well, and the Thai people well in their Business,s , but I cannot see the return of any spark soon.

 

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Pattaya R I P 

Brothels and bj bars out, culture and family pursuits in. Quite right, time the country moved away from being mainly the whore house of the world.

Edited September 16, 20214 yr by clivebaxter

Pattaya exists for one thing, and one thing only. The nightlife and entertainment. You don't open that, people won't return in numbers.....simple. 

Just now, bullseye66 said:

Pattaya exists for one thing, and one thing only. The nightlife and entertainment. You don't open that, people won't return in numbers.....simple. 

Can only hope they don't return and it dies a slow death then

5 minutes ago, clivebaxter said:

Brothels and bj bars out, culture and family pursuits in. Quite right, time the country moved away from being mainly the whore house of the world.

What's "bj"?

Pretty much all you can do for nightlife is hit up 7-Eleven for your adult beverages and pick up one (or two) freelancers along beach road and head back hand in hand back to your room.

13 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

What's "bj"?

can't be written, it gets deleted!

5 minutes ago, BobinBKK said:

Pretty much all you can do for nightlife is hit up 7-Eleven for your adult beverages and pick up one (or two) freelancers along beach road and head back hand in hand back to your room.

worth travelling thousands of miles for that?

4 hours ago, 2long said:

I love a beer, in a special bar as well as a restaurant, but these establishments should be the last to open. So, there's some sense in opening other places first, at least to test the water and get SOME tourists through the door.

What other places?

Pattaya does not have other places.

3 minutes ago, clivebaxter said:

worth travelling thousands of miles for that?

Maybe not so much for international travelers, but only a 2 hour bus ride for me ???? 

Well it seems that everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet here, I stopped doing tourist attractions about 14 years ago, then I began to concentrate purely & simply on the night life 100%.

 

I had a whale of a time for a few years before retiring here just about 10 years ago when I slowed down considerably, I still live on the outskirts & enjoy the bars and restaurants out on the Darkside, the Mrs does the shopping in town & I order decent Western food from various outlets. Life couldn't really be much better.

 

I feel so sorry for those that have lost their jobs, their businesses, homes, cars, savings and in some cases their lives, Pattaya is not a nice place to be right now, infact that applies to Thailand as a whole. Yes, things will eventually improve, but I don't see that happening much this side of Christmas, the faux government are fairly and squarely responsible for this debacle & the government stooge, namely the Pattaya mayor, doesn't help, he follows the government's stupidity by ordering the Chinese vaccines, now the Health Minister says everyone who received Sinovac or Sinopharm will get a booster shot, talk about false economy..........

 

Hopefully by the middle of next year things may have normalised, I certainly hope so, but by opening now they are just inviting a whole world of pain to visit them, and neither the Thai people or us deserve that, stay safe one and all, see you on the other side of this mess.

 

 

Tell the potential British tourists that they can come, but the bars and clubs will be closed.  They'll be queueing at the travel agents, for Spain.

 

Some though, especially those who've been here before, won't believe how closed it is and will come anyway.  Those should be fun to watch.  ????

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1 hour ago, clivebaxter said:

time the country moved away from being mainly the whore house of the world

Oh we will NOT be having any of that!!! 555

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38 minutes ago, BobinBKK said:

Pretty much all you can do for nightlife is hit up 7-Eleven for your adult beverages and pick up one (or two) freelancers along beach road and head back hand in hand back to your room.

The New Normal for sure since April.  My girlfriend and I go to the local thai market for beer and/or Hong Thong (try to stay away from spending at CP all) 

We engage in nightlife activities at the condo pool or on my balcony.   Music, dancing, swimming, conversing with neighbors and friends....It's all good man

Peace

4 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

The New Normal for sure since April.  My girlfriend and I go to the local thai market for beer and/or Hong Thong (try to stay away from spending at CP all) 

We engage in nightlife activities at the condo pool or on my balcony.   Music, dancing, swimming, conversing with neighbors and friends....It's all good man

Peace

Hmmmm My condo pool (and gym) has been closed for months ???? 

And cultural, natural bring in how much tourism and how much of your GDP? You have to get booze in restaurants and kids in school before you can open entertainment.....and news flash. The longer you wait the more foreigners will find other places to go and that tourism revenue will be gone forever

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Gosh, it's like they WANT the reopening to fail.

Tourists don't, IMO, go to Pattaya for Thai culture, and the city is IMO a grot hole with terrible traffic. Other than Temple of Truth, Mini Siam, Alcazar and Tiffany, what is there to see that can't be seen elsewhere that doesn't involve staying in a grot hole?

Forgot the Teddy Bear Museum 

4 hours ago, Crossy said:

 

555. I took my parents to Patpong in 2000, mum said "that bar is full of naked women", dad's response "let's go in!".

 

Mum was slightly confused when a lady handed her a balloon on a stick and told her to hold it up. The look on her face when is was burst by a dart from a "blow pipe" was priceless!

 

Slightly  but in reply to Crossy, I recall a trip to Patpong in 1985 with a bunch of guys from the oil company where I worked in Saudi, me being a relative newbie to Thailand.

 

Sitting at a bar, watching the "ping-pong" show, a lady deposited a ping pong ball into my beer glass to the cheers of my mates. When I got over my surprise, what did I do?  Easy...drank the beer and paid the bar fine to the accompaniment of more cheers. 

What's the expression? "Life was so simple, then" Happy, happy days! ???? 

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6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps they learned from what happened in NZ. We opened to quarantine less travel with Australia and got delta and more lockdowns to our despair.

Quarantine less travel is IMO a bad idea.

What? Even for fully vaccinated negative testing farangs? 

No way im going to thailand for seeing things i allreade seen.I like to chill out in a outdoor restaurant with a cold beer and looking at citylife.I love bangkok,not been in pattaya for 12 years.

3 hours ago, clivebaxter said:

Brothels and bj bars out, culture and family pursuits in. Quite right, time the country moved away from being mainly the whore house of the world.

You do realise that 90% of the prostitution in Thailand is driven by Thais themselves , yes ?

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps they learned from what happened in NZ. We opened to quarantine less travel with Australia and got delta and more lockdowns to our despair.

Quarantine less travel is IMO a bad idea.

Delta is already in Thailand.  Factor in vaxxed only arrivals.  EU is dropping the quarantine.  NZ shuts down with 2 cases. Hardly worth a mention

3 hours ago, RafPinto said:

What's "bj"?

Berli Jucker?

1 minute ago, Clarkey611 said:

Berli Jucker?

Thought it was Bumbum Johnson.

No guarantees of nightlife/entertainment opening. Good luck getting tourist to come here.  

People were always just visiting Pattaya for the 'cultural and natural' activities.

Who doesn't know the world-reknowned fantastic beaches with crystal clear water, the top-notch road system with revolutionary drainage systems and auto-repairing potholes, strategically placed manhole covers, the carefully maintained green areas and lush parks all over the city, and the clear tap water? It's amazing.

 

Still, maybe using rational thinking, seeing "Covid" for what it is (similar to catching a flu for non-risk groups, and something mainly risk groups should find all options to protect themselves against) and getting rid of this vaccine / mask / distancing "fun" (after all, progressive and developed countries like Sweden, Denmark and about half of US states are doing very well with this strategy, especially economically!) might be the way to go ASAP.

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3 hours ago, clivebaxter said:

Brothels and bj bars out, culture and family pursuits in. Quite right, time the country moved away from being mainly the whore house of the world.

Thailand was a whore house before the farang came along go back to the second world war when Thailand supplied ladies to the Japanese army