Popular Post rooster59 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 The week in Thailand was dominated by the PM’s Monday announcement that the country would be reopening at last come November 1st. Once again the hapless PM seemed to have jumped the gun in an effort to boost his own political traction as the bearer of good news. And once again it backfired as the very people he is trying to woo - foreign tourists - expressed more confusion than ever in online forums with the oft heard refrain “I’ll just wait till there’s more clarity” far more prevalent than “Yippee, get me on a plane to Thailand”. On the face of it, Prayut's final grudging acceptance that Thailand needs to open up despite the Covid-19 numbers rather than because of them, is a step in the right direction. But his own goal was that his “quarantine free access” was anything but. Fine to insist on double vaxxed tourists, great to ensure everyone has a test before they are Bangkok bound. But oops - why insist on another test on arrival and create more headaches. And essentially completely undermine the no quarantine rhetoric. Tourists will have to do just that at least for a night while they await their results. Subsequent babble about “swab hubs” in the Thai capital did little to allay concerns. The country should just be opening up to double vaxxed tourists and be done with it. And there should be no stipulation for children to be vaccinated. The further lack of clarity in that regard is putting off much needed income from bewildered parents.. Prayut and his cronies have clearly used the pandemic to advance the idea of moving on from Thailand’s sex tourism past - always an embarrassment though many of those cronies have fingers in that pie. The rhetoric is all about quality tourists and big spenders coming to the rescue. No more mass tourism. This is a bunch of smoke and mirrors as when push comes to shove they will salivate for the high numbers that India and China represent rather than longer staying Europeans and Americans. One thing is for sure, as Rooster has said in recent weeks, the pandemic is the watershed that sees Thailand move away from nightlife as a primary means of attracting tourists whether they admit it or not. Nature, families and wholesomeness is the “New Normal” though Thailand’s sex and night-time industry was so huge that it’ll probably just take a little more sniffing out. The country is so unfaithful to each other - as a survey showed - that the industry has to survive just to cater to errant husbands, never mind the tourists. Though it might be less overt and less apparent to visitors in the future. The days of Go-Go bars and scantily clad women in the streets calling out to “handsum man” are numbered. This will enable entities like the TAT to pretend that it doesn't exist rather like that cop a few years ago who said there was no sex industry. Former tourism minister Kobkarn famously said in 2016 that she was going to preside over the end of the industry. This caused her to be sent packing back to the business sector where she would do less damage. But a reassessment of the trade post-pandemic is clearly on the cards and places like Pattaya will never be the same again. That is probably a good thing as it needs a total reinvention from its seedy past. Further changes were not changes at all. The new “Thailand Pass” is just a Certificate of Entry under another guise though creating a one stop shop for the documentation is a positive step. But who wants all this aggravation when taking a holiday - shouldn’t everything be as simple as possible for visitors? Yes, people coming to my house should remove their shoes and I may well direct them to a part of the sofa to sit on. But do they need to be told about how they sit, when they can get up, what they can say, where they can walk around, what they can and can’t touch? Of course not; a guest is a guest and they should always be made to feel at home. Thailand needs to remember that and stop all the rules and regulations and hark back to a simpler time when people were attracted to the country because of its laissez-faire attitude. Sex industry or no sex industry. The curfew was reduced and mutterings were made about allowing alcohol and the reopening of nightclubs from December. The authorities continued to burble on about protocols. Everyone is sick of protocols but they do know what they should and should not do. We’ve had gels, and masks, and social distancing and temperature checks thrust down our throats for the best part of two years. We know what to do, we and our children all over the world have got used to it. Just reopen and be done with it for goodness sake - we’re all tired of being caged up. Our two year prison sentence should be over - with a little remission for good behavior! The curfew is another red flag to tourism potential. Just scrap it. Now! Everyone knows that the infection numbers will go up as the country reopens - that has been shown most everywhere. The health system can cope. Concentrate on the vaccinations and stop overthinking everything, that’s my message. To wit, I shall be heading off to Bang Sue today (Sunday) to get my second jab of AstraZeneca. I’ll join the double-dosed, now nearly 40% of the population. I’m glad to see that this vaccine is now recognised abroad. America will even accept those with Sinopharm and Sinovac in their arms for their belated second week in November opening, announced this week. Thailand’s pandemic response has - like many countries - been laughable at times and I know it's kept me relatively sane by chuckling in lockdown. But this week there was thankfully far more to guffaw about on ASEAN NOW than the dreaded lurgy latest. Apropos to my prior comments about unfaithfulness, a survey by Durex did the rounds again on social media, which showed that 51% of respondents in Thailand admitted to having a bit on the side. A bigger surprise was that the Germans were at 45% ahead of the French. Maybe Frenchmen lie more, though. Sex-starved Brits languished in a pathetic ninth. The post showed a map of the most unfaithful countries - all in Europe except for Thailand. In your face Kobkarn! On ASEAN NOW’s Facebook arm there was a thread about getting a hole in one at golf. Wagster J.P. Doyle linked the two stories saying this was because of Thailand’s 19th hole. Continuing the theme somewhat, Thailand also had a spate of men getting their manhood’s stuck in all manner of things this week. Firstly a guy in Kanchanaburi had to be cut free from a bottle opener then Thai Rath went to town on a person in Bangkok who got his “jao loke” wedged in a PVC pipe. The media compiled a six minute video as a lady presenter kept deadpan, a male anchor winced and a foundation rescue staffer explained how he used his tool (cutting equipment, that is) to extricate the Member for Krung Thep. Years ago it was obvious that Thailand - with plenty of unfortunates’ todgers that had NOT been fed to the ducks - was heading to be the hub of reattachments. Now it looks like being the hub of extractions, perhaps rivalling the great dental industry! One wonders if the lack of nighttime entertainment has caused all this. The technician from Rom Sai foundation just said drily that who was he to judge. Never ones to miss out on an opportunity to look foolish, the RTP joined the fun and games suggesting that we should not copy Squid Game, the hit Korean show depicting violence aplenty on Netflix. Funny, but just moments before the spokesman told me I had decided to ritually slaughter my noisy neighbor for using a power drill. Thanks RTP! Frankly, Thais of all ages have been subjected to gratuitous violence on and off screen since the year dot. They are bloomin’ used to it! Funniest picture of the week was the Tourist Authority of Thailand governor Yutthasak Suphasorn who tried to look serious behind his black mask emblazoned with what looked like a red banana. Only a banana skin could have been more appropriate after some of his pronouncements this year. Good news for Pattaya came when the military announced that the Cobra Gold exercises - cancelled in the pandemic - would be back on next year in full. The marines should be able to visit Nong Nooch gardens and go to Cartoon Network by then. Let’s hope the military police can keep them in order amid the orchids and water chutes. In more serious news - though with that familiar Thai smirk that it was anything but - was a family in the north east who advertised selling their eyes and kidneys. They were on a march to the governor in Ubon after acting as guarantor for the wife of a cop who reneged on repaying for a tractor purchased years ago. In Chiang Mai the tourist police and TAT got their floral bouquets and baskets out to visit a Russian mum whose 7 year old son fell in a boiling geyser. They promised help. Many posters took the opportunity to blame the distraught parent. Please stop; you don’t know the facts of the case and have you never encountered an unexpected danger in Thailand before? In Bangkok a Brit living on the 26th floor of a condo in Pak Kret got some online praise for helping a painter who was left dangling after his rope was cut. The reader was also left dangling as to why this had happened in the first place. I wish the Thai media would learn to ask a few more questions - it would make translators' lives a whole lot easier. The Association of Thai Travel Agents asked us to believe that the appearances of Lisa of Blackpink fame and opera singer Andrea Bocelli at New Year countdowns in Phuket and Bangkok was 200 million baht well spent. “Suppose Lisa’s appearance attracts a million foreign tourists and each of them spends 75,000 baht, that’ll mean 75 billion in foreign exchange” said Sec-Gen Adit. He’s clearly angling to take over at the TAT or be Thailand’s next tourism minister. In international news that caught my eye, Star Trek’s William Shatner blasted into space on Bozo’s Phallus. Prince William said it right: “Repair this planet, not find the next”. In California the crime known as “stealthing” - removing a condom during sex without the knowledge of the recipient, was enshrined in law. Finally, a footballer in Thailand who ran into gambling debt decided to rob a gold shop and after his capture was taken on a reenactment that attracted dozens of gawking shoppers. Plod had an easy task in snaring him as he dropped his mobile phone at the scene of the crime. Hopefully he’s not a goalkeeper. Rooster -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2021-10-17 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 30 2 1 12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 can somebody send this article to our esteemed PM.. he need a cold shower of reality to wake him up and smell the tourism's dollars... Enough is enough with all this lockdown and quarantines and repeated jabs and paperwork that never end... 16 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gandtee Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 'have you never encountered an unexpected danger in Thailand before?' My missus, when I make a Brit style joke or a reference to him who shouldn't be referred to, or Thai politics. Lampooning farang style is not appreciated here.???? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Another Prayoops hits the social media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotelbri Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 Prayut " bringing poverty to the people " 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 Truth be told, Prayut and the rest do not know what to do or how to do it. And in fairness, can not really blame them as this kind of mess has never happened in our life time. As usual Thailand has too many experts with opinions and yet not a single one has any knowledge or expertise. Yes Thailand need tourism and yes everyone wants big spenders. But one has to also offer something in return to get the big spenders. Thailand does not have anything to offer to big spenders, starting from lack of english language skills all across the board, down to simple footpath to walk on or a meter taxi to hail. It is indeed silly to have people tested upon arrival when they were tested less than 3 days prior to flying. It is somewhat silly to open up when you have a curfew in place, restrictions on alcohol, business operating hours and places to party. Even big spenders would want to have drinks in a hotel lounge or a bar. or have wine with their meals 12 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 It is more and more apparent by the day, that the destruction and sabotage of Thailand's tourism industry is likely deliberate, and planned out. Nothing else makes sense. They have been wanting to get rid of the nightlife for as long as they have been in power. What better way to do this, than use the cover of Covid? Reduce the entire industry to ashes, then rebuild it, in their own pure as snow image. Without a trace of nightlife, or a hint of a sex industry. Of course we know this will not only mean a total failure to ever revive the tourism industry, but likely a larger sex industry. Try to stop it, and oppress it, and what happens? It just grows. When you have a nation that pays 3,000 to 5,000 baht a month more for a college graduate with a 4 year degree (after a very expensive education) than an unskilled laborer, what choice do some women have? Just "say not to sex" is as stupid and misguided as "just say no to drugs". But stupid barely even begins to describe the current leadership. Possibly moronic, fake, misguided, arrogant, out of touch, pathological, lacking one iota of compassion, black hearted, misled, ill informed, and incapable to leadership is closer to the mark. 11 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stephenterry Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 I would suggest there are more incompetent governments than Thailand. As far as I'm concerned my lifestyle here hasn't changed much - all I need I can get. And the last thing I need is hundreds of Chinese tourists descending upon my patch. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuiAddict Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 So what are the alcohol rules right now? On Samui we've been able to get a drink for a few days now, everywhere seems to be opening up/getting ready. One of the beach clubs even has a DJ event on today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crazykopite Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 Maybe I’m missing something here but I was always under the impression that the wealthy Thai husbands would drop there wives off to do so shopping while they went for a soapy if the intention is to get rid of these places what hobby will the Thai husbands take up ! 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, SamuiAddict said: So what are the alcohol rules right now? On Samui we've been able to get a drink for a few days now, everywhere seems to be opening up/getting ready. One of the beach clubs even has a DJ event on today. Not like that on Koh Phangan we’re still having to drink out of tin cups and coffee mugs ☹️ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jaspermiller922 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 No it's not good enough not going to spend a fortune on flights and covid tests to arrive in a shutdown country and have another test, where I can't even have a beer Prague for Xmas I think Thailand needs so sort it's sh#t out 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Hey @rooster59 did you get a message I sent to you about a week or so ago?? Edited October 17, 2021 by xylophone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millcx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, hotelbri said: Prayut " bringing poverty to the people " Thailand has Fallen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont confuse me Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 As clear as Beijing sky line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cape Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Utterly sick and tired of waiting on this old and stupid PM. Off to Columbia next month. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, stephenterry said: And the last thing I need is hundreds of Chinese tourists descending upon my patch. Unfortunately, the million or so people who no longer have jobs, money or food on the table do need them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, SamuiAddict said: So what are the alcohol rules right now? On Samui we've been able to get a drink for a few days now, everywhere seems to be opening up/getting ready. One of the beach clubs even has a DJ event on today. Both Samui and Phuket have restaurants that are allowed to sell alcohol - legally. (Bars as well in Phuket?) This is down to the Samui Plus/Phuket sandbox. And high numbers of locals that have had two or more vaccines. Here is the list for Samui. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedhump Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Suddenly you're a medical expert? You need another test after arrival in the UK too, within 2 days. I'm sure these aren't the only two countries in the world demanding this. Edited October 17, 2021 by Speedhump Speeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sambum Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 “Repair this planet, not find the next”. At the end of a (Sir) Richard Attenborough series ("Life on Earth"?) he was standing beside a huge NASA rocket, and commenting on the fact that America had just authorising the spending of millions of dollars into investigating the possibility of colonising another planet, and he brought the entire series to an end by asking "Would that money not be better spent looking after the one that we've got?" Words of wisdom from a very wise and talented man! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said: Unfortunately, the million or so people who no longer have jobs, money or food on the table do need them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 If Prayut wants to kill the nightlife he'd better find alternative work for all those who have been employed in it..... and he'd better find something else to attract foreign tourists. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babyfis Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Yes reopening the country to allow tourists into the country again is the best idea to help the economic going again, it might take a bit of time but is a start. Reopening for fully vaccinated tourists is the best option, but it should be a straight forward and easy, like for fully vaccinated approval jabs tourists landed in Thailand shouldn’t have any other conditions like having to take a test or quarantine. If fully vaccinated tourists have to go through hassle conditions districts-ions for holidays they will don’t bother, they rather go a country that is hassle free to enjoy their holiday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post the green light Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 true true and true fully vaccinated and proof of tested before departure should be enough to be tested again will mean quarantine again in an ASQ hotels for best 2 days to worst case7 days depend on how fast the hospital return the test result. Knowing Thailand 5 days minimum. It is a show stopper. this idea of retesting again will be appalled for visitors to Thailand. they will go somewhere else. There are so many beautiful beaches around the world. the only thing that people are willing to withstand long expensive flight and go thru the hoopla is the sex industry of Thailand. They can get rid of the gogo bars but are they are going to take away the massage parlors that government people use them a lot? Thailand does not have mountain or as many flower garden as many part of the world. without the cheap sex industry nobody will come. Mass tourism is good. people spend money on vacation rich or poor. people on holiday do not want their hands tied. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the green light Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Babyfis said: Yes reopening the country to allow tourists into the country again is the best idea to help the economic going again, it might take a bit of time but is a start. Reopening for fully vaccinated tourists is the best option, but it should be a straight forward and easy, like for fully vaccinated approval jabs tourists landed in Thailand shouldn’t have any other conditions like having to take a test or quarantine. If fully vaccinated tourists have to go through hassle conditions districts-ions for holidays they will don’t bother, they rather go a country that is hassle free to enjoy their holiday. fully agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the green light Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 it is so stupid to be excited the "Good days are back again" let rephrase Friday's decision for the fully vaccinated tourists (rich or poor) 1. you can come but need to retested again. 2. you need to have smart phone to download the APP. Thai App have hacked and personal information has been stolen. Tourist do not want to hassle with government APPs 3. you need to stay in an ASQ hotel for 2 days minimum or longer depend on how fast the processing time of the lab. How many days to book the ASQ is not clear. 4. you need to buy the useless health insurance.( why?) 5. if you go to the beaches, you will waste 2 more days for transportation 6.out of 7-10 holidays.. the time left for holiday is cut down to 2-5 days. 7. curfew until 11 pm.. where can you go at night? nothing to do 8.no Nana, no Soi cowboy and no Patpung... how fun it is- sex industry is dead. 9 Mountain- no...beautiful park - no , nothing to do where any tourists will go for fun after a long and expensive airfare to visit Thailand.. NO...tourist will go another country for fun and enjoy myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, sambum said: “Repair this planet, not find the next”. At the end of a (Sir) Richard Attenborough series ("Life on Earth"?) he was standing beside a huge NASA rocket, and commenting on the fact that America had just authorising the spending of millions of dollars into investigating the possibility of colonising another planet, and he brought the entire series to an end by asking "Would that money not be better spent looking after the one that we've got?" Words of wisdom from a very wise and talented man! Such reasoned and similar pearls have been repeated by numerous souls recently, all to fall on ridicule or ignored by the usual circles. We don't realize what we have until it's lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 6 hours ago, BestB said: Truth be told, Prayut and the rest do not know what to do or how to do it. And in fairness, can not really blame them as this kind of mess has never happened in our life time. As usual Thailand has too many experts with opinions and yet not a single one has any knowledge or expertise. Yes Thailand need tourism and yes everyone wants big spenders. But one has to also offer something in return to get the big spenders. Thailand does not have anything to offer to big spenders, starting from lack of english language skills all across the board, down to simple footpath to walk on or a meter taxi to hail. It is indeed silly to have people tested upon arrival when they were tested less than 3 days prior to flying. It is somewhat silly to open up when you have a curfew in place, restrictions on alcohol, business operating hours and places to party. Even big spenders would want to have drinks in a hotel lounge or a bar. or have wine with their meals well spoken and correct. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, the green light said: true true and true fully vaccinated and proof of tested before departure should be enough to be tested again will mean quarantine again in an ASQ hotels for best 2 days to worst case7 days depend on how fast the hospital return the test result. Knowing Thailand 5 days minimum. It is a show stopper. this idea of retesting again will be appalled for visitors to Thailand. they will go somewhere else. There are so many beautiful beaches around the world. the only thing that people are willing to withstand long expensive flight and go thru the hoopla is the sex industry of Thailand. They can get rid of the gogo bars but are they are going to take away the massage parlors that government people use them a lot? Thailand does not have mountain or as many flower garden as many part of the world. without the cheap sex industry nobody will come. Mass tourism is good. people spend money on vacation rich or poor. people on holiday do not want their hands tied. Well configured and expanded effort. But their authoritarian ears aren't listening to any such reasoning. The learning curve is nil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: Both Samui and Phuket have restaurants that are allowed to sell alcohol - legally. (Bars as well in Phuket?) This is down to the Samui Plus/Phuket sandbox. And high numbers of locals that have had two or more vaccines. Here is the list for Samui. I guess I can't go to ' Noi's love massage and food ' tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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