Thailand Pass Is Up And Running

[Lorry]

On 11/1/2021 at 6:03 AM, gearbox said:

an epic failure in system design

You are  quoted in today's Financial Times

https://www.ft.com/content/8e5a0f97-8c2e-40c3-ad43-e0f6d5fd1915

 

So now i am officially "Lorry, the conqueror of Thailand Pass"

[Pepper9187]

Just now, PabloSanDiego said:

thanks. I have no doubt it's automatic as many reported just what you did. But I think 100% of them have been with EU vaccine QR Codes. But with my memory (always dangerous to count on) plus the sample size I could be wrong.  

 

I have a Yahoo email account I rarely use but maybe I'll try for a third time hoping to get the automatic approval. 

Yup it seems to be working (mostly) with EU ? not entirely sure that's 100% accurate bust i think that all the positive feedbacks i read were from people from the EU.

 

Anyways you can use the same email adress multiple times no worries, it's just that back then i didn't know that.

(for instance i've received my 2 instant confirmations on my same yahoo email).

 

Just DO NOT use hotmail as there's some issues, people do not even receive the acknowledgement email when they use hotmail.

 

I've contacted the Thailand Pass website guys and they they will look into that issue but i think it's still broken for now ?

[Pepper9187]

1 hour ago, Sandro777 said:

Again - why are you saying that SHA+ is improper? Here is the THAI EMBASSY WEBSITE:

 

"Fully Vaccinated from the Listed Countries
Fully vaccinated travelers, both Thai and foreigners will be allowed to enter Thailand without mandatory quarantine or sandbox stay. They only need to stay for 1 night in an ASQ or SHA+ Hotel while they wait for the COVID 19 RT-PCR test result that was taken upon arrival. "

 

Furthermore, many applicants have been under review for more than six working days, so please do not say it takes 3-5 to applicants. 

 

 

Edit / Update.

 

ASQ = AQ hotel and a Hotel can have the SHA+ certification, however if you book for 1 night with PCR test this will be a AQ booking, not a SHA+ booking.

 

If will be a AQ booking in a SHA+ certified hotel.

 

Just like for my booking :

 

[alyx]

3 hours ago, stubuzz said:

I have just made the the same "mistake" with instant approval. My hotel receipt has the AQ logo on the top and there is no mention of test and go.

When is your flight?

Mine is a SHA+

Initially 11 November Changed it to 24 November ...today when re applying

[Pepper9187]

6 minutes ago, alyx said:

Mine is a SHA+

Initially 11 November Changed it to 24 November ...today when re applying

Again, be careful, SHA+ is a certification, your hotel is SHA+ certified but it's a AQ booking (if you land in Bangkok, 1 night stay with PCR test).

 

Just like my booking here :

 

[alyx]

Thanks to the posts on the various thread I applied via the AQ and got the QR Code labelled "Alternative Quarantine" but one thing I find odd is the accompanying message Aren't the applicants supposed to quarantine for 10 days already?

Travelling to Thailand

1. 1. Please prepare your documents to present at the check-in counter and to the agencies concerned when arriving in Thailand. The documents are as follows
   1. 1.1 Passport with visa (if required)
   2. 1.2 Thailand Pass QR Code (on mobile device or printed copy)
   3. 1.3 Medical certificate with a laboratory result indicating that COVID-19 is not detected through RT-PCR test (issued within 72 hours before departure). If the Port Health and Quarantine at airports in Thailand discover that you have invalidated COVID-19 RT-PCR test result or if the type of the test is not RT-PCR method, you will not be eligible to be exempted from quarantine, but you may be allowed to enter Thailand by quarantine only.
2. 2. When arriving in Thailand, please present your documents and Thailand Pass QR Code to the immigration and disease control officers.

Remarks: if your airline requires additional documents, kindly prepare the additional required documents, or you may be denied boarding.

 

 Aren't the applicants supposed to quarantine for 10 days already?

Also (worrying) is the "if airline.......denied boarding" What other documents can they require apart from the above and the ticket ?

[Pepper9187]

6 minutes ago, alyx said:

Thanks to the posts on the various thread I applied via the AQ and got the QR Code labelled "Alternative Quarantine" but one thing I find odd is the accompanying message Aren't the applicants supposed to quarantine for 10 days already?

Travelling to Thailand

1. 1. Please prepare your documents to present at the check-in counter and to the agencies concerned when arriving in Thailand. The documents are as follows
   1. 1.1 Passport with visa (if required)
   2. 1.2 Thailand Pass QR Code (on mobile device or printed copy)
   3. 1.3 Medical certificate with a laboratory result indicating that COVID-19 is not detected through RT-PCR test (issued within 72 hours before departure). If the Port Health and Quarantine at airports in Thailand discover that you have invalidated COVID-19 RT-PCR test result or if the type of the test is not RT-PCR method, you will not be eligible to be exempted from quarantine, but you may be allowed to enter Thailand by quarantine only.
2. 2. When arriving in Thailand, please present your documents and Thailand Pass QR Code to the immigration and disease control officers.

Remarks: if your airline requires additional documents, kindly prepare the additional required documents, or you may be denied boarding.

 

 Aren't the applicants supposed to quarantine for 10 days already?

Also (worrying) is the "if airline.......denied boarding" What other documents can they require apart from the above and the ticket ?

You got the QR code with Alternative quarantine written on it at the bottom ? how so ?

 

Do not confuse 
Exemption from Quarantine (Test and Go) / Alternative Quarantine choice on the first page.
And your hotel booking type (asked at the "end" of the form.

 

Given you're fully vaccinated and from a country that's eligible you should choose Exemption from quarantine (test and go) ON THE FIST PAGE.

 

Then later on when they ask you about your hotel booking you should choose AQ (alternative quarantine) instead of SHA+

 

Edited November 8, 2021 by Pepper9187

[alyx]

32 minutes ago, Pepper9187 said:

Again, be careful, SHA+ is a certification, your hotel is SHA+ certified but it's a AQ booking (if you land in Bangkok, 1 night stay with PCR test).

 

Just like my booking here :

 

Confused: yes landing in Bkk but why should I tick AQ hotel whereas there is the Sha+ choice? I do not think that it will make a difference on the documentation

Staying at the Pullman (across my condo )

[alyx]

1 minute ago, Pepper9187 said:

You got the QR code with Alternative quarantine written on it at the bottom ? how so ?

 

Do not confuse 
Exemption from Quarantine (Test and Go) / Alternative Quarantine 
And your hotel booking type.

 

Given you're fully vaccinated and from a country that's eligible you should choose Exemption from quarantine (test and go) ON THE FIST PAGE.

 

Then later on when they ask you about your hotel booking you should choose AQ (alternative quarantine) instead of SHA+

 

 

I did not take this route. I went for the third category. When I chose Test and Go whatever Sha or AQ I never got a QR code. Only when I took the Alternative Quarantine did I get it

[Pepper9187]

Just now, alyx said:

I did not take this route. I went for the third category. When I chose Test and Go whatever Sha or AQ I never got a QR code. Only when I took the Alternative Quarantine did I get it

I'd be cautious with that one.

It's like if you were unvaccinated and still had to go through a 10 days quarantine.

 

Wait, let me check again : are you fully vaccinated and from an "quarantine free" eligible county ?

 

 

[alyx]

2 minutes ago, Pepper9187 said:

I'd be cautious with that one.

It's like if you were unvaccinated and still had to go through a 10 days quarantine.

 

Wait, let me check again : are you fully vaccinated and from an "quarantine free" eligible county ?

 

 

That is correct : fully vaccinated allowed in. but as I mentioned in an earlier post , I got this in the QR code email 

1. 1.3 Medical certificate with a laboratory result indicating that COVID-19 is not detected through RT-PCR test (issued within 72 hours before departure). If the Port Health and Quarantine at airports in Thailand discover that you have invalidated COVID-19 RT-PCR test result or if the type of the test is not RT-PCR method, you will not be eligible to be exempted from quarantine, but you may be allowed to enter Thailand by quarantine only.

[KhaoYai]

1 hour ago, Pepper9187 said:

Now for the "How is it possible" part, the system just read the documents and look for keywords, just like when you apply for an e-visa online and upload your passport JPEG it reads it and fill up all the details for you.

If that is true all I have to do is type out a form that says Mr. XXXX XXXXX has health insurance for $50,000 US which covers Covid 19. Another fake booking letter from my AQ hotel and I'm good to go..............................right?  Naaaa.

[Pepper9187]

2 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

If that is true all I have to do is type out a form that says Mr. XXXX XXXXX has health insurance for $50,000 US which covers Covid 19. Another fake booking letter from my AQ hotel and I'm good to go..............................right?  Naaaa.

I feel like i'm on reddit, when people don't understand how things work they call it fake.

 

It doesn't have to read everything, it just have to find a field like "insurance policy ID XXXX" and check a field like "Maximum benefits".

 

When i say it's automatic, just to be clear :

 

There's no background check whatsoever, it's not going to check if you have a valid hotel booking ID, or a valid insurance policy.

 

 

[KhaoYai]

1 hour ago, Aero992 said:

Has anyone had automatic approval from the UK, my documents/QR codes were converted and as clear as possible. Curious if it's worked for anyone else.

I would also like to know about UK vaccine documents.  The NHS App and downloads put dose 1 and dose 2 together, side by side and each has its own QR code. Do I need to separate them?

[Pepper9187]

8 minutes ago, alyx said:

That is correct : fully vaccinated allowed in. but as I mentioned in an earlier post , I got this in the QR code email 

1. 1.3 Medical certificate with a laboratory result indicating that COVID-19 is not detected through RT-PCR test (issued within 72 hours before departure). If the Port Health and Quarantine at airports in Thailand discover that you have invalidated COVID-19 RT-PCR test result or if the type of the test is not RT-PCR method, you will not be eligible to be exempted from quarantine, but you may be allowed to enter Thailand by quarantine only.

That only says that if you test positive upon arrival (at your hotel) or that IF before departure you used a non PCR test (antigen test), you may still be allowed to enter Thailand but THEN you will have to do a 10 days quarantine.

 

 

[Danderman123]

11 minutes ago, alyx said:

That is correct : fully vaccinated allowed in. but as I mentioned in an earlier post , I got this in the QR code email 

1. 1.3 Medical certificate with a laboratory result indicating that COVID-19 is not detected through RT-PCR test (issued within 72 hours before departure). If the Port Health and Quarantine at airports in Thailand discover that you have invalidated COVID-19 RT-PCR test result or if the type of the test is not RT-PCR method, you will not be eligible to be exempted from quarantine, but you may be allowed to enter Thailand by quarantine only.

Yes. If you have a fake PCR test, you probably have to quarantine.
 

But that has nothing to do with the current discussion. IF you are up against an imminent flight date and have no QR code, you can try for an immediate QR code by filing under Alternative Quarantine. The quarantine officer at Suvarnaphumi will examine your vaccination documents and assign you where appropriate.

[alyx]

2 minutes ago, Pepper9187 said:

That only says that if you test positive upon arrival (at your hotel) or that IF before departure you used a non PCR test (antigen test), you may still be allowed to enter Thailand but THEN you will have to do a 10 days quarantine.

 

 

I know but...I chose the Alternative Quarantine with a day day at the hotel to be able to get a QR code. Hence that should not be mentioned in that category

[Danderman123]

For anyone who entered Thailand with a QR code: were all of your documents reviewed, or just your PCR test results?

[alyx]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

Yes. If you have a fake PCR test, you probably have to quarantine.
 

But that has nothing to do with the current discussion. IF you are up against an imminent flight date and have no QR code, you can try for an immediate QR code by filing under Alternative Quarantine. The quarantine officer at Suvarnaphumi will examine your vaccination documents and assign you where appropriate.

Yes , thank you I understand

I just do not understand that this is mentioned in a 10 day quarantine 

[Pepper9187]

1 minute ago, alyx said:

I know but...I chose the Alternative Quarantine with a day day at the hotel to be able to get a QR code. Hence that should not be mentioned in that category

Oh right,

 

Don't worry then, i just checked all my QRs and it's a standard signature answer for approval emails.

[alyx]

Just now, Pepper9187 said:

Oh right,

 

Don't worry then, i just checked all my QRs and it's a standard signature answer for approval emails.

???? But it is weird to find this statement in the Alternative Quarantine ????

[Pepper9187]

Just now, alyx said:

???? But it is weird to find this statement in the Alternative Quarantine ????

Bruh !

Let's do a list of all the fuc*ked up things in that process, shall we !?

[alyx]

2 minutes ago, Pepper9187 said:

Bruh !

Let's do a list of all the fuc*ked up things in that process, shall we !?

555 No need ....there is a 57 page list above 

[Danderman123]

For those with multiple QR codes, is a QR tied to a specific flight, or can I use a duplicate QR code to come back to Thailand in December?

 

Update: nope. QR is tied to a specific date of Arrival.

Edited November 8, 2021 by Danderman123

[Pepper9187]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

For those with multiple QR codes, is a QR tied to a specific flight, or can I use a duplicate QR code to come back to Thailand in December?

LOL that's a good one.

 

Edit : Don't ;

 

The QR code is just something that opens a page with all the details you entered in the form :

Flight details / vaccine / hotel booking and so on.

 

So basically what i'm trying to say is NOPE

Edited November 8, 2021 by Pepper9187

[alyx]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

For those with multiple QR codes, is a QR tied to a specific flight, or can I use a duplicate QR code to come back to Thailand in December?

The QR code specifies a date of arrival so...not sure

[KhaoYai]

2 minutes ago, Pepper9187 said:

I feel like i'm on reddit, when people don't understand how things work they call it fake.

 

It doesn't have to read everything, it just have to find a field like "insurance policy ID XXXX" and check a field like "Maximum benefits".

 

When i say it's automatic, just to be clear :

 

There's no background check whatsoever, it's not going to check if you have a valid hotel booking ID, or a valid insurance policy.

 

 

Sorry I don't buy it.  All insurance policies are written differently - mine has very little detail in the schedule.  To get all the information they need I would have to send at least 5 pages.  I've attached the schedule.  Knowing Thailand as I do, I very much doubt they are using the technology you refer to - they just don't do that. Nor do I think it could cope with such requirements/varied potential responses.  I'd be very happy to be wrong.

[alyx]

2 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

Sorry I don't buy it.  All insurance policies are written differently - mine has very little detail in the schedule.  To get all the information they need I would have to send at least 5 pages.  I've attached the schedule.  Knowing Thailand as I do, I very much doubt they are using the technology you refer to - they just don't do that. Nor do I think it could cope with such requirements/varied potential responses.  I'd be very happy to be wrong.

You are paying 150 Pounds for a year coverage ? I guess it is only for Brits or UK residents, isn't ?

[mick220675]

18 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

I would also like to know about UK vaccine documents.  The NHS App and downloads put dose 1 and dose 2 together, side by side and each has its own QR code. Do I need to separate them?

I applied on the 1st using the nhs covid pass, just uploaded the certificate for both first/second and both QR parts of the application. On the second I received a email, 5 days later I received a QR coad.

[alyx]

15 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

For those with multiple QR codes, is a QR tied to a specific flight, or can I use a duplicate QR code to come back to Thailand in December?

QR code mentions the date of arrival so basically it would not work I guess