Many platforms are writing about the situation with Covid-19 and readers are responding to it. One does not take it so closely and the other is very scared. Fear, misunderstanding, anger and even aggression can be found in many reactions. What has Covid done to your state of mi

Many platforms are writing about the situation with Covid-19 and readers are responding to it. One does not take it so closely and the other is very scared. Fear, misunderstanding, anger and even aggression can be found in many reactions. What has Covid done to your state of mind?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

97+% to 99% (depending where you live and your age) recovery rate from a virus ... NO

Wish I had a 97% recovery rate from all the ailments out there that actually are scary.

The short answer is no.  What's there to be scared of?  If you take suitable precautions (vax, mask etc), just as I might do with flu, pneumonia, syphilis etc, then why worry?  If you die, you die....

Flu is as likely to get me as COVID.

Why worry about something so unlikely to happen?

14 minutes ago, simon43 said:

The short answer is no.  What's there to be scared of?  If you take suitable precautions (vax, mask etc), just as I might do with flu, pneumonia, syphilis etc, then why worry?  If you die, you die....

Correct, take the safe and effective vaccine, follow medically advised precautions and live your life.

I'm not afraid of Covid.

But I fear what virus and hystery does to our economies, our mental health and our democracy. It devides the society more than anything I remember and I never felt so much hate between people with different opinions.

1 minute ago, JustAnotherHun said:

I'm not afraid of Covid.

But I fear what virus and hystery does to our economies, our mental health and our democracy. It devides the society more than anything I remember and I never felt so much hate between people with different opinions.

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I agree with all you said except the last point....

 

The hate you mention is actually very one-sided; you and I hate no one for making the decision to wear a mask or take a vaccine. 

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Flu is as likely to get me as COVID.

Why worry about something so unlikely to happen?

 

This is what happened to me 10 years ago when I flew to Japan. Some American doctor kept insisting to chat with me while spitting on my face. 4 days later while in Tokyo I got sick. Returned to Canada and was getting worse. Doctors just said the usual, drink and rest... Which I did for almost 3 months. Then I noticed breathing problems which I never had before, but last to this day.

I was and still am very annoyed and hassled from all the disruptions and changes to normal life as we knew it more than fear of the Covid itself...

A pair of trolling, COVID and vaccine misinformation posts have been removed, along with ensuing replies.

 

No.  Never been scared of sars-cov-2.  But I'm as scared as hell about the long term impact of the world's leaders reactions to trying to irrationally control the impossible.

 

I would like to see all world leaders attempt to herd a bunch of cats and then push a piece of string up a hill.  Anybody over the age of six understands the futility of attempting the impossible, but that gene is apparently missing in our (cough/splutter/choke) elected and unelected fools who are in control.

 

King Canute Rulez!

Scared no, aware yes.

 

The virus probably won't kill me but it can kill more vulnerable people so I take any reasonable steps to avoid contracting/spreading it, but I don't consider putting my life on hold like the Victorian government wanted me to do reasonable (I was living in Melbourne when this all started) so I left and came to Thailand.

It’s not been all bad news.

 

The Pandemic has for me, and many others, been an opportunity to think about what’s important and reorganize my life accordingly.

 

I’ve built the house I always wanted to build, spent time with my wife and family, changed my habits around things that have a health impact and got some serious cycling done.

 

I got my weight down to what it was when I was in my twenties and I’m fitter and happier now than I’ve been for many years.

 

I know many others who have likewise reset their priorities and are happier for having done so.

 

The ‘new normal’ has some very bright and promising opportunities.

 

I’m really looking forward to see how the changes wrought by this pandemic pan out, most of all I’m looking forward to see how young people respond to the ‘new normal’.

 

 

Quite a few people think that the comparatively low mortality rate for most age groups means that Covid is not be feared, but they are wrong. There are many debilitating effects of Covid affecting various vital organs, not to mention long Covid which can be very serious.

The other thing that foreign residents in Thailand really should consider is that if they test positive for Covid they will be put in hospital and will not be allowed visitors. In most areas the nurses and most doctors will speak rudimentary English at best. You will be in large shared wards or field wards where few if any of the other patients speak English beyond a basic level. Even if you have insurance or funds to  cover a private room, you will probably find that none are available.

 

Edited November 5, 20214 yr by blackprince

14 minutes ago, blackprince said:

Quite a few people think that the comparatively low mortality rate for most age groups means that Covid is not be feared, but they are wrong. There are many debilitating effects of Covid affecting various vital organs, not to mention long Covid which can be very serious.

The other thing that foreign residents in Thailand really should consider is that if they test positive for Covid they will be put in hospital and will not be allowed visitors. In most areas the nurses and most doctors will speak rudimentary English at best. You will be in large shared wards or field wards where few if any of the other patients speak English beyond a basic level. Even if you have insurance or funds to  cover a private room, you will probably find that none are available.

 

I'll agree to disagree with just about everything you just wrote.

17 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I'll agree to disagree with just about everything you just wrote.

I'm stating facts. These facts are indisputable.

You are free to have any opinion you wish, but it's a good idea to distinguish between opinion and fact.

And also a good idea to base opinions on facts of course.

You may have noticed that I haven't answered the OP's question about whether I'm personally worried about Covid. The answer is No, not much. 

But that's because of the specifics of my lifestyle in Thailand, not because I'm ill-informed enough to underestimate the seriousness of the disease or of the reality of hospitalisation in Thailand due to Covid.

24 minutes ago, blackprince said:

I'm stating facts. These facts are indisputable.

You are free to have any opinion you wish, but it's a good idea to distinguish between opinion and fact.

And also a good idea to base opinions on facts of course.

You may have noticed that I haven't answered the OP's question about whether I'm personally worried about Covid. The answer is No, not much. 

But that's because of the specifics of my lifestyle in Thailand, not because I'm ill-informed enough to underestimate the seriousness of the disease or of the reality of hospitalisation in Thailand due to Covid.

I disagree with your 'facts' , specifically your generalizations in reference to hospitalization of foreigners testing positive or being treated.  If available ( per insurance ) they go to private hosp, (almost mandatory) private or shared room, and I've yet to be in a private hosp. where there was not plenty of staff speaking English.

 

ill effects of covid, haven't researched, so can't comment, but seems most of those testing positive when random tested, didn't even know infected, with few to no symptoms.  Kind of makes you wonder how many millions have had & recovered without even being tested, or treated beyond basic flu symptoms & treatment of.

36 minutes ago, blackprince said:

I'm stating facts. These facts are indisputable.

 

These "facts" change from month to month.

Here's the "question" posed by the OP

 

Many platforms are writing about the situation with Covid-19 and readers are responding to it. One does not take it so closely and the other is very scared. Fear, misunderstanding, anger and even aggression can be found in many reactions. What has Covid done to your state of mind

 

Not an honest question at all. .  He's offering only 2 options if I understand his somewhat peculiar English correctly (clearly he's not a native speaker of English) One is that people either take it in a relaxed way and the other is "very scared". This is what's called a "close-ended" question. In this case the 2nd option is that  someone is "very scared" which implies that they're in the grip of a strong emotion and hence being irrational.  Are those the only 2 possibilities?  Obviously an honest question would either be open-ended i.e. one in which no option is suggested, or, if a closed-ended question, , one that includes a wide range of possible responses. Not just 2. It's obvious where the OP is coming from. 

Edited November 5, 20214 yr by placeholder

OP Title should read “afraid ….to Die….of Covid”, right ? In which case NO.

As a Fit Healthy Unfat Vaxxed 65, have made a maximum effort not to Die, reduced oddsNear Zero

If just generally afraid of other covid “consequences”.Again, NO.

Not because the consequences have not been devastating to people socially & financially….they have, but they are a done deal with no individual control so what use would “being afraid” be ? 

Covid is just another Life Risk to Identify, Minmize & Manage, like Health or Road Safety.

A lot of very brave people, in this forum. 

There is a lot to be scared of. if you are not you are foolish. 

Afraid for your own health. it has been reported that even if you survive it, problems from it could persisted for years. 

   More so , scared for my loved ones. If something happened to my daughter ,or wife , it would surely kill me faster than covid ever could. 

   Scared for the state of the worlds economy which is balanced on a knives edge, it would not take much to knock it of, and the covid disruptions might just do it. 

  Being 65 years old, scared that by the time the world recovers I might be too old or dead. 

   Plenty to be scared about, and anyone who is not ,is simply whistling in the dark.   

2 hours ago, blackprince said:

foreign residents in Thailand really should consider is that if they test positive for Covid they will be put in hospital and will not be allowed visitors. In most areas the nurses and most doctors will speak rudimentary English at best. You will be in large shared wards or field wards where few if any of the other patients speak English beyond a basic level.

In other words, a perfect opportunity to learn the Thai language, and no distractions.

I don't remember the flu disrupting the world's economy. 

 

" The World Health Organization estimates that 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide.

The COVID-19 situation continues to change, sometimes rapidly. Doctors and scientists are working to estimate the mortality rate of COVID-19. At present, it is thought to be substantially higher (possibly 10 times or more) than that of most strains of the flu."

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

 

And that's with preventive measures that have brought the world to a standstill .

Edited November 5, 20214 yr by onthedarkside
quote of hidden misinformation post removed

2 minutes ago, sirineou said:

I don't remember the flu disrupting the world's economy. 

It's not the virus that disrupts world's eco´nomy, it's the reaction on it.

3 minutes ago, sirineou said:

I don't remember the flu disrupting the world's economy. 

As a small side note  what ever happened to Flu and pneumonia ?

What's to be afraid of?

17 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

It's not the virus that disrupts world's eco´nomy, it's the reaction on it.

The  quote  and link that I posted from the very prestigious John Hopkins school of medicine. seems to indicate that the Mortality rate of Covid 19 is as much as 10 greater than the flu. Which is what I was responding at. 

To say that "It's not the virus that disrupts world's eco´nomy, it's the reaction on it. " is like saying it is not the bullet that killed it's the response of the body to the impact.

I think you are trying to imply that the response is out of proportion to the threat, which is arguable , but others might argue that the response is inadequate. 

both are neither here or there, the reality is , that it is disrupting and as such one needs to be concerned. 

8 minutes ago, sirineou said:

The  quote  and link that I posted from the very prestigious John Hopkins school of medicine.

I know the article you linked. Other studies come to very different results and I think no one of us is able to decide which one are more right.

 

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I think you are trying to imply that the response is out of proportion to the threat, which is arguable , but others might argue that the response is inadequate. 

both are neither here or there, the reality is , that it is disrupting and as such one needs to be concerned. 

That's what I wanted to say. Sorry, English is not my language and became a little rusty over the years.

5 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

I know the article you linked. Other studies come to very different results and I think no one of us is able to decide which one are more right.

can you please send me a link to those studies , It would be interesting to see.

 

Don t worry about the language , I realise we are all from different countries, languages and cultures. ????

50 minutes ago, johng said:

As a small side note  what ever happened to Flu and pneumonia ?

Pneumonia is the main cause of death from Covid.

As far as I know the flu was disrupted by all the social distancing and associated face mask wearing and hand washing.