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Thailand not invited to US democracy summit


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6 hours ago, Walker88 said:

No, President Biden can actually point out countries on a map. He also knows China and India share a long common border (and have historical issues over it), and would never call some South Asian countries Nipple and Button.

Or Laser (Lhasa).

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6 hours ago, fangless said:

How about actual real live Democracy rather than monuments and virtual meetings on it!

Actual real live Democracy. Whatever that is. 

Don't believe it's practiced anywhere, actually - though, there is a surface romance that many pretend to imbibe. 

 

The real live universal practices are oligarchical and plutocratic. Too many are fooled to understand these forms are something else.

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1 hour ago, Albert Zweistein said:

It's a democracy summit.

Sure it is...and anyone here who strongly prefers to live in a democratic country should consider moving to a country in the democracy list...for example Iraq.

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10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Obviously it would have been absurd to invite Thailand.

 

But inviting the nation of Taiwan is going to get Xi's panda panties in a twist. Good on Biden.

Yes, much better to invite the Democratic Republic of Congo....it even has "democratic" in the name!

 

Corruption perception index - number 170 out of 180 countries. Makes Thailand to look pretty good.

 

https://www.transparency.org/en/countries/democratic-republic-of-the-congo

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"South and Central Asia obtained just four invites (for India, the Maldives, Nepal, and Pakistan).

https://carnegieendowment.org/2021/11/22/who-s-in-and-who-s-out-from-biden-s-democracy-summit-pub-85822

Seems when it comes to democracy, Thailand isn't a hub.

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It’s kind of ironic that this summit is being held in the USA, since a fairly large part of the voters there are still convinced that Trump lost because the election was ‘stolen’. About 10-15% even believe it’s acceptable to use force/violence to overthrow the current administration. How’s that for democracy?

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Thailand's health minister couldnt go to a who meeting due to not meeting the vaxx standard, and now thai style democracy is shunned by the world democracy meeting.

 

Reality is a harsh mistress

Best in thailand doesnt mean much on the world stage.

 

No wonder the thais hate foreigners

Foreigners dont buy their bullshxttt

Its the ultimate loss of face

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49 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Actually, Vietnam has a friendly relationship with the US given China's anti-sovereign attitude towards Vietnam.

An "enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of relationship.

Notice that Vietnam directly borders China.

With Thailand's military government's almost fawning relationship with China, it would be a security risk for US intelligence operations originating from Thailand. 

Well I don't think Vietnam allows NSA listening and intercepting devices on its soil pointing at China.

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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Absolutely. The future of American democracy is under grave threat by very dark forces that we saw during the January 6th insurrection/coup attempt. They still control one of the two major parties in the U.S. But it's good for the current U.S. president who actually is pro democracy to at least attempt to be a leader on this issue as it is an international one.

The perpetuation of cultural illusion is at play. 

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12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No surprise. Would they even want to come to such a conference? 

Of course they would! Gives them a chance to push their lies and tell everyone what great defenders of democracy they are. You have to understand that these people (and I’m not only talking about the Myanmar junta here) don’t live in the real world, they have created their own reality where everything they say is true and everything they do is good. 

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1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

Well I don't think Vietnam allows NSA listening and intercepting devices on its soil pointing at China.

Your proof? Or just speculating.

Vietnam wants substantial trade with the US, since 2001 has had a bilateral trade agreement with the US, has been forging closer military ties and high-level military exchanges with the US since 2016. Vietnam now wants to begin selling its electric SUVs next year. 

You're thinking of Vietnam after the US withdrawal. Times have changed especially in the Pacific-southeast Asia region.

Vietnam wants the power to resist China's "bad boy" behavior that threatens Vietnam's sovereignty- Communist or not. Partnership with a naval and air superiority super power like the US can give Vietnam disportionate political power for its size. 

 

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10 hours ago, mvdf said:

Yup... selective bullying in the works. Exclude those governments not aligned with the bully's governance system.

Ok. So Thailand in your opinion is a democracy then. Please note that freedom of speech is a vital underpinning of Democracy. This is not the case here.

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