zzaa09 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: That's a good thing to hope for (less dangerous) but at this point there is no evidence whatsoever that that is true. So yes, wait and see. Yet, there isn't any evidence any which way - This new mutation might just peter out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, zzaa09 said: Yet, there isn't any evidence any which way - This new mutation might just peter out. Fingers crossed..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sezze Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Fingers crossed..... Expect things turned back for many countries if not all very soon , i mean in the next 3/4 days .Israel closed its borders already. It is waiting and hoping that it is less virulent ( dangerous) and more spreading . That way is the way out , and the way it looks will be by far the fastest way out . Let's just all cross our fingers .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, sezze said: Expect things turned back for many countries if not all very soon , i mean in the next 3/4 days .Israel closed its borders already. It is waiting and hoping that it is less virulent ( dangerous) and more spreading . That way is the way out , and the way it looks will be by far the fastest way out . Let's just all cross our fingers .... It would be prudent to lock up a few places until we know more about this new mutation..... I know people on the way to Thailand (from UK) and at first I though the recent storm was their problem, now this , which might impact their return. Bloody nightmare.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, zzaa09 said: Yet, there isn't any evidence any which way - This new mutation might just peter out. There is no evidence of anything. This could be so blown out of proportion it is stunning. Or not. In a few weeks we will know. Until then let's watch cat videos! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, Blumpie said: There is no evidence of anything. This could be so blown out of proportion it is stunning. Or not. In a few weeks we will know. Until then let's watch cat videos! Of course. Blown outta proportion, as this whole thing has been. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiexpat Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 TAT has posted an update of the rules from 16 Dec https://www.tatnews.org/2021/11/thailand-eases-entry-rules-from-16-december-2021/ "The current 1-night waiting period in a hotel and a confirmed payment (for 1-night stay at SHA++ hotel, 1 RT-PCR test, and pre-arranged airport transfer) will no longer be required. On arrival testing will be changed to an ATK method." Still not clear as to how the ATK will work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Some posts with content that was copy and pasted from some sites without a link to the sources of information have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sezze Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Blumpie said: There is no evidence of anything. This could be so blown out of proportion it is stunning. Or not. In a few weeks we will know. Until then let's watch cat videos! True , but if this is the same danger and problems like the ones before , meaning same hospital admissions ( people still don't get it that the death rate isn't the thing , it is the hospitals full with really very sick people ) , then the <deleted> just hit the fan very hard . That is at least the 1st estimate , since most things point at , much more transmission ( +500% of Delta , making it 1 of the highest transmission virus recorded to date ...) , and due to many changes in the spike proteines , it will escape the present vaccines ( aka making them pretty much useless ) . We all need to hope for the best , in case we want to keep going in the right direction and not to square 1 of covid . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifmu Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 the new covid variant will change everything .. it will hit hard everywhere .. the first to go will be the unvax 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, ifmu said: the new covid variant will change everything .. it will hit hard everywhere .. the first to go will be the unvax You do not know this and hence are fear mongering.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifmu Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, jacko45k said: You do not know this and hence are fear mongering.... you watch i will be back to say i told u so .... too many idiots that are unvacinated to many idiot tourists that bar hop and ignore ALL rules ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aussiexpat Posted November 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, ifmu said: the new covid variant will change everything .. it will hit hard everywhere .. the first to go will be the unvax Mods, every single thread is now polluted with covid internet doctors sprouting their so called wisdom about SA varient...can these doctors have their own thread so as not to bore the rest of us? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ifmu said: you watch i will be back to say i told u so .... too many idiots that are unvacinated to many idiot tourists that bar hop and ignore ALL rules ... I am concerned too... but until I see more information on whether it leads to more severe disease than say Delta, I think panic is negative, proactive action, yes. A little less worrying article here. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59442141 Although outdated already as Omicron has been detected in the UK already. Edited November 28, 2021 by jacko45k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 12 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Where's your link to show this is so. Don't spread misinformation. My information is correct What’s your own take on Hotels being used in relation to ATK, or do you only feel happy when you have something to complain about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Blumpie said: You may want to reconsider this with the new variant going around. ???? I reckon that rules will be changing dramatically quickly. No I’m sticking to booking nearest hotel to BKK Get the ATK over and done with ASAP. Then free 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, bolt said: My information is correct What’s your own take on Hotels being used in relation to ATK, or do you only feel happy when you have something to complain about A personal attack, really. All I asked you for was a link to prove it is not misinformation your posting in light if what the CCSA said on Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, bolt said: My information is correct What’s your own take on Hotels being used in relation to ATK, or do you only feel happy when you have something to complain about From December 16, 2021, people arriving in Thailand as part of the Test & Go and Sandbox schemes will only be required to take an ATK test on arrival and will no longer be required to take a RT-PCR test. Furthermore, people arriving as part of the Test & Go scheme will only need to book transportation to their hotel of choice and take an ATK test. They will no longer be required to book a hotel room for one night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Two inflammatory posts have been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: From December 16, 2021, people arriving in Thailand as part of the Test & Go and Sandbox schemes will only be required to take an ATK test on arrival and will no longer be required to take a RT-PCR test. Furthermore, people arriving as part of the Test & Go scheme will only need to book transportation to their hotel of choice and take an ATK test. They will no longer be required to book a hotel room for one night. you never commented on what I wrote, you only asked for a Link I repeat what i said before The ATK testing will be done at hotels (SHA+-AQ) who have agreements contracts with hospitals in case of positive test. so that’s why any arrival needs to book at an approved Hotel instead of any hotel-house-home-condo The Hospital Staff will be doing the testing, and they’ll be using the hotel as a base, you won’t be self-testing yourself. if results are negative 10-20 minutes you go leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, bolt said: What’s your own take on Hotels being used in relation to ATK are you able to think or copy paste Hotels not needed. It's a transliteration issue. If you can read Thai it says an ATK test is all that's needed. My take is that will be done at the airport. Why would they make someone who lives in the country book a hotel. Read my post, a hotel is not needing to be booked. I will agree to disagree with you. Enjoy your view as it's not mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Hotels not needed. It's a transliteration issue. If you can read Thai it says an ATK test is all that's needed. My take is that will be done at the airport. Why would they make someone who lives in the country book a hotel. Read my post, a hotel is not needing to be booked. I will agree to disagree with you. Enjoy your view as it's not mine. SHA+ & AQ already are set up for testing they have separate area for currently testing using PCR, they also have agreement contracts with Hospitals, they are perfectly set up for transit testing. Take a deep breath and think about this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, bolt said: SHA+ & AQ already are set up for testing they have separate area for currently testing using PCR, they also have agreement contracts with Hospitals, they are perfectly set up for transit testing. Take a deep breath and think about this No need to think about it. Read the Thai version of the CCSA meeting minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanookmike Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 hours ago, aussiexpat said: TAT has posted an update of the rules from 16 Dec https://www.tatnews.org/2021/11/thailand-eases-entry-rules-from-16-december-2021/ "The current 1-night waiting period in a hotel and a confirmed payment (for 1-night stay at SHA++ hotel, 1 RT-PCR test, and pre-arranged airport transfer) will no longer be required. On arrival testing will be changed to an ATK method." Still not clear as to how the ATK will work Provided all this goes ahead from the way that's worded to me it does seem to suggest that ATK will be done in the airport on arrival. I believe it's what's Cambodia is doing also.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonniePeverley Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Better option might have been to test at the airport. Rather than having possible infected passengers mingling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farangus Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 For the countries that are not on the list, nothing really has changed about the tests. An expensive PCR test after arrival is still needed. Of the changes, only 5 nights instead of 7 nights at the SHA + hotel, but this does not change anything ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 6 hours ago, jacko45k said: It would be prudent to lock up a few places What 'few' places would you suggest, it already appears it's too late.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 hours ago, jacko45k said: You do not know this and hence are fear mongering.... Why would it not? What happened with Delta? Why would you expect something different this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 33 minutes ago, Farangus said: For the countries that are not on the list, nothing really has changed about the tests. An expensive PCR test after arrival is still needed. Of the changes, only 5 nights instead of 7 nights at the SHA + hotel, but this does not change anything ???? What about point 2 - travellers from other countries? Does that mean ALL other countries? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUNCHER Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said: What about point 2 - travellers from other countries? Does that mean ALL other countries? Good question. As usual a total lack of clarity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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