Restos in Pattaya can again serve alcohol

[Phoenix Rising]

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/12/03/pattaya-and-other-chonburi-blue-zones-officially-allowed-to-sell-alcohol-in-restaurants/

[champers]

Good news for all the proper restaurants as well as those bars who have prepared to get a restaurant licence.

I do hope that the good intentions of bar owners are not short-lived.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. ????????????????????

[G Rex]

Great news! - this could breathe a bit of life into the corpse of Pattaya!

 

[Mentors65]

It's about time! 

[Cherrytreeview]

You would have to be a complete sad desperado to jump through endless hoops to travel 6000 miles to order a cheese and ham toastie so you can qualify for a bottle of Chang.

Meanwhile, all the bars, gogos and nightclubs remain closed further notice.

Then having had your cheese and ham toastie, you can join the sausage fest on Soi Bukahow and be the sixth customer of the day.

These people must have no social lives at home.

Throw in the hoops to return to your own country and the real possibility of global lockdowns.

What a relaxing and care free holiday.

Get a life.

 

 

[spidermike007]

This is so long overdue. Nobody has ever defined that prohibition intelligibly. I can understand crowded bars, and clubs, where you have to shout to be heard, and in the process you release alot of spittle. But a restaurant? Why? It only appears to be an additional hardship for hundreds of thousands who are only trying to make a living, and patrons who are only trying to let off a little steam and enjoy some much needed recreation. If anything, allowing drinking in restaurants brings down the national crime rates! Beer does not cause Covid. Neither does wine. But, prohibiting acholol sales does sabotage an industry and contribute to the continued destruction of the nation's economy. 

The CCSA continues to prove on a daily basis how lost in space they are, how out of their element they are, how in over their heads they are, and how extreme their denial of science based facts is.

 

Idiotic politicians who institute highly selective shutdowns, while favoring their cronies and the rich developers and factory owners, and allow corrupt border officials on the take, to ply their trade, does cause the spread of Covid. So much more could have been done to prevent the spread, and even possibly the entire 3rd wave. 

[jacko45k]

If I recall correctly this was a precursor to things opening up  last time....although hands might have been forced.... so many bars were masquerading as restaurants it was impossible to police. It is coming far too late for many businesses. 

[Henryford]

Don't the new rules say no alcohol between 2-5 pm? So that would rule out any late lunches or early dinners. Do the rules mean no ordering drinks between 2-5 or no drinking between 2-5. So if you ordered a bottle of wine at 1.50 pm can you still drink it for an hour?

[The Hammer2021]

3 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

You would have to be a complete sad desperado to jump through endless hoops to travel 6000 miles to order a cheese and ham toastie so you can qualify for a bottle of Chang.

Meanwhile, all the bars, gogos and nightclubs remain closed further notice.

Then having had your cheese and ham toastie, you can join the sausage fest on Soi Bukahow and be the sixth customer of the day.

These people must have no social lives at home.

Throw in the hoops to return to your own country and the real possibility of global lockdowns.

What a relaxing and care free holiday.

Get a life.

 

 

You might benefit from your own advice rather than micro analysising the life style choices of others in such an innacurate and biast way.

Edited December 4, 2021 by The Hammer2021

[sungod]

3 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

You would have to be a complete sad desperado to jump through endless hoops to travel 6000 miles to order a cheese and ham toastie so you can qualify for a bottle of Chang.

Meanwhile, all the bars, gogos and nightclubs remain closed further notice.

Then having had your cheese and ham toastie, you can join the sausage fest on Soi Bukahow and be the sixth customer of the day.

These people must have no social lives at home.

Throw in the hoops to return to your own country and the real possibility of global lockdowns.

What a relaxing and care free holiday.

Get a life.

 

 

Or you could just drive an hour and a half down from Bangkok for the weekend and enjoy a few glasses of your favorite tipple with a meal.

 

You seem to be annoyed all your favorite sex joints are closed, and you have to wait your turn.

[The Hammer2021]

4 minutes ago, sungod said:

Or you could just drive an hour and a half down from Bangkok for the weekend and enjoy a few glasses of your favorite tipple with a meal.

 

You seem to be annoyed all your favorite sex joints are closed, and you have to wait your turn.

Yep. It's an odd litany of envy, bitterness and clinical depression.

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, Henryford said:

Don't the new rules say no alcohol between 2-5 pm? So that would rule out any late lunches or early dinners. Do the rules mean no ordering drinks between 2-5 or no drinking between 2-5. So if you ordered a bottle of wine at 1.50 pm can you still drink it for an hour?

Haven't seen the official announcement, and the details are likely in an accurate translation from Thai. Let us see that before we start pecking at it!

[Caldera]

Long overdue. Cheers!

[mrbojangles]

5 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

You would have to be a complete sad desperado to jump through endless hoops to travel 6000 miles to order a cheese and ham toastie so you can qualify for a bottle of Chang.

Meanwhile, all the bars, gogos and nightclubs remain closed further notice.

Then having had your cheese and ham toastie, you can join the sausage fest on Soi Bukahow and be the sixth customer of the day.

These people must have no social lives at home.

Throw in the hoops to return to your own country and the real possibility of global lockdowns.

What a relaxing and care free holiday.

Get a life.

 

 

I agree that this move won't bring hoards of tourists. Many of my friends won't be coming until Thailand is fully opened again. Places like Greece, Spain and Portugal have collected much money that would normally have been spent here. However, for those of us who live here, this is welcome news. We haven't officially been able to go to the pub or have a beer/ wine with our meals since April. I'm off out restaurant hopping tonight

[kinyara]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This is so long overdue. Nobody has ever defined that prohibition intelligibly. I can understand crowded bars, and clubs, where you have to shout to be heard, and in the process you release alot of spittle. But a restaurant? Why? It only appears to be an additional hardship for hundreds of thousands who are only trying to make a living, and patrons who are only trying to let off a little steam and enjoy some much needed recreation. If anything, allowing drinking in restaurants brings down the national crime rates! Beer does not cause Covid. Neither does wine. But, prohibiting acholol sales does sabotage an industry and contribute to the continued destruction of the nation's economy. 

The CCSA continues to prove on a daily basis how lost in space they are, how out of their element they are, how in over their heads they are, and how extreme their denial of science based facts is.

 

Idiotic politicians who institute highly selective shutdowns, while favoring their cronies and the rich developers and factory owners, and allow corrupt border officials on the take, to ply their trade, does cause the spread of Covid. So much more could have been done to prevent the spread, and even possibly the entire 3rd wave. 

You missed your opportunity to express a mild bit of happiness and optimism. It's a small win in a difficult time, we may as well enjoy it.

[The Hammer2021]

9 hours ago, jacko45k said:

If I recall correctly this was a precursor to things opening up  last time....although hands might have been forced.... so many bars were masquerading as restaurants it was impossible to police. It is coming far too late for many businesses. 

A bar can not masquerade as a restaurant. A restaurant has a restaurant license.

[The Hammer2021]

19 hours ago, champers said:

Good news for all the proper restaurants as well as those bars who have prepared to get a restaurant licence.

I do hope that the good intentions of bar owners are not short-lived.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. ????????????????????

How to get a license?

Where from?

How long does it take?

How much?

What is the process?

How long does it last?

If a restaurant owner makes a mistake or has no license will the brownshirts still harras, arrest, detain, fine  bribe extort the foreigners in the establishment?

The current lack of clarity is a goldmine for the brownshirts.

[PoorSucker]

52 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

How to get a license?

Where from?

How long does it take?

How much?

What is the process?

How long does it last?

Haven't done it in Pattaya, but here's the procedure on Samui. 

Apply at the revenue office, (company or Thai national) 

30 min. 

1200 baht. 

One year license 

[The Hammer2021]

Just now, PoorSucker said:

Haven't done it in Pattaya, but here's the procedure on Samui. 

Apply at the revenue office, (company or Thai national) 

30 min. 

1200 baht. 

One year license 

Thanks. Great information. We'll done. I'm not sure it works that way here. The is a long check point list of instructions, then an email to request an inspection and then NOTHING, NO RESPONSE NO HELP.

[Phoenix Rising]

2 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

A bar can not masquerade as a restaurant. A restaurant has a restaurant license.

Really?? Seems like all the bars in Bangla Rd didn't get that particular memo....

[Leaver]

1 hour ago, PoorSucker said:

Haven't done it in Pattaya, but here's the procedure on Samui. 

Apply at the revenue office, (company or Thai national) 

30 min. 

1200 baht. 

One year license 

 

Is it the case that once you have a restaurant license, you cease to be able to operate as a bar?  Eg.  no live music.

[The Hammer2021]

13 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Really?? Seems like all the bars in Bangla Rd didn't get that particular memo....

Irrelevant to the issue. It just means your police are not checking licenses in Phuket. The do here in Pattaya.

[The Hammer2021]

16 hours ago, PoorSucker said:

Haven't done it in Pattaya, but here's the procedure on Samui. 

Apply at the revenue office, (company or Thai national) 

30 min. 

1200 baht. 

One year license 

 No inspection?

No visit to premises?

No check of vaccination status of staff

No measurement of seating areas.

Pattaya is not Samui

[SidJames]

There will be an inspection before you get a license as you will prove that you actually have a kitchen & live music can also be played but you will a license for that as well.

 

[PoorSucker]

6 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

 No inspection?

No visit to premises?

No check of vaccination status of staff

No measurement of seating areas.

Pattaya is not Samui

Was asked about restaurant licensing, not SHA certification 

[PoorSucker]

21 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

Is it the case that once you have a restaurant license, you cease to be able to operate as a bar?  Eg.  no live music.

It's just another piece of paper on the wall, you can have as many as you want, bar, restaurant, massage shop, live music. 

[Leaver]

1 minute ago, PoorSucker said:

It's just another piece of paper on the wall, you can have as many as you want, bar, restaurant, massage shop, live music. 

 

Ok.  Interesting. 

 

If a premises can be licenced for more than one purpose, I wonder why some restaurants don't become gentleman's clubs (bar) after the kitchen closes. 

 

Many of the restaurants have a good setting for that type of business, and perhaps some customers would stay after their meal and continue drinking and partying with the girls.  Probably more lucrative than selling food.  Lower the lights, move some tables around, close some curtains.  Job done.  

 

Bars becoming restaurants, and restaurants becoming bars.  Interesting times ahead.  

[jacko45k]

On 12/4/2021 at 3:58 PM, The Hammer2021 said:

A bar can not masquerade as a restaurant. A restaurant has a restaurant license.

Whatever... it happens. 

[Irate priest]

On 12/5/2021 at 9:09 AM, PoorSucker said:

It's just another piece of paper on the wall, you can have as many as you want, bar, restaurant, massage shop, live music. 

Live music licenses are very difficult to obtain whilst a licence to play music via CDs is easy. Many a foreign bar owner has been caught out by a visit from the BIB when putting on live music and showing their so called music license. It's a back hander or visit to local station I know this well.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/4/2021 at 2:06 PM, The Hammer2021 said:

Yep. It's an odd litany of envy, bitterness and clinical depression.

More like facing reality, IMO.

 

So, they can legally sell booze- all they need now are bums on seats then.

Given omicron one would have to be fairly barking IMO, to travel anywhere at the moment. I have no doubt some will, only later to be telling their sad story about how they got trapped overseas because of a lockdown and asking for "financial assistance".