TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Here we go…….. Tough Covid measures likely for Valentine’s Day and Songkran Covid-19 preventive measures are likely to be increased for Valentine’s Day next week and Songkran in April as daily infections have exceeded 10,000 for several days now. The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration’s (CCSA) Operation Centre on Thursday is considering proposing tougher preventive measures for Valentine’s Day and Songkran, according to a Government House source. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40012172 The old.. "no kissing" and "no short-time hotel visits" things again...for Valentine's Day??? ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouatchee Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said: Omicron is already endemic in Thailand. Do you understand the words "horse, stable door and bolted." What is your point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherrytreeview Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pouatchee said: What is your point? https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/travel/travel-bans-red-list-countries-waste-time-uk-omicron-cases-1339335 Let me know if there's anything you don't understand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 The OWD data is a day behind for now, and doesn't reflect today's Thailand update to 14,822 new official cases. But it does give a good look at the way official COVID case counts have been trending since the start of 2022: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases?country=USA~THA But not much trend movement on reported COVID deaths thus far, with another 20 new reported today not yet on the chart below: Source link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouatchee Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said: Let me know if there's anything you don't understand. I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Thailand did extremely well to " control " the rise of Omicron during their High Season for Tourists. Now the high season has all but finished, the " control " seems to have slipped and we are seeing some relatively large increases in the Infection numbers. However, the rate of increases are still very small compared to what other Nations around the Globe have reported It was interesting to note that of 434 Infections on Phuket, there were 192 Foreigners among them, which is close to 50 % of the cases This seems very high compared in relation to the population of Phuket at around 300,000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) Another, perhaps more significant trend indicator than just cases since the start of the new year: Thailand COVID hospitalization (real ones, not "hospitels" and such) -- tripled: Jan. 4 -- 17,280 Feb. 1 -- 40,590 Feb 10 -- 51,435 Thailand COVID patients in serious/critical condition -- almost unchanged: Jan. 4 -- 555 Feb. 1 -- 557 Feb 10 -- 563 Sources from MoPH: (the largest white font number in each chart is the total number of COVID cases under any treatment as of that date. The top right hand corner number in each graphic is the actual real COVID hospitalizations.) The bottom right hand corner blue font number in each chart is COVID patients requiring intubation to breath. Jan.4 Feb.1 Feb. 10 https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos Edited February 10, 2022 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worrab Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 First report since the 7th Feb when 101 cases were reported. Big increase now! Health officials on Wednesday (Feb 10) reported 208 new COVID-19 cases, of which 29 cases were found in Hua Hin. Elsewhere in the province, 41 cases were found in Pranburi, 3 cases in Sam Roi Yot, 56 cases in Kuiburi, 22 cases in Thap Sakae, 20 cases in Bang Saphan, 3 cases in Bang Saphan Noi, and 31 cases in Mueang Prachuap Khiri Khan. No new deaths were reported today. https://www.huahintoday.com/hua-hin-news/feb-10-prachuap-reports-208-new-covid-19-cases-29-cases-in-hua-hin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worrab Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Some interesting facts on this chart. https://www.huahintoday.com/hua-hin-news/feb-10-prachuap-reports-208-new-covid-19-cases-29-cases-in-hua-hin/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted February 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, worrab said: Some interesting facts on this chart. https://www.huahintoday.com/hua-hin-news/feb-10-prachuap-reports-208-new-covid-19-cases-29-cases-in-hua-hin/ What stands out like a sore thumb to me there is the number of test and go tourists that have tested positive on the 5th day, 96 of them! Compared to just 7 on the first day. No doubt caught it in Thailand. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nojohndoe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: I don’t think Thailand has the testing capacity to see rapidly increasing cases as in other countries or even if it has, it has no inclination to utilize it. Agree, once peaked it should then follow other countries in decline. If numbers of hospitalizations and deaths directly due to covid were published in differentiation to totality of "detected" infections it would be more genuinely indicative of impact. Near 15,000 new infection and 8500 recoveries? Recoveries from near death or what? 14822 new cases.....Hospitalized , icu, aspirated????? It gets boringly continuously superficially irrelevant to the reality of stretched tolerance ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 hours ago, mommysboy said: Omicron is a game changer. No point even counting cases and the way deaths are recorded needs to be reassessed. It stands to reason that patients in hospital for other compelling reasons, can't really be dying of Omicron if their respiratory symptoms are mild. In the UK, it is thought that the over count is 40%. Well, you made that last bit up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Another, perhaps more significant trend indicator than just cases since the start of the new year: Thailand COVID hospitalization (real ones, not "hospitels" and such) -- tripled: Jan. 4 -- 17,280 Feb. 1 -- 40,590 Feb 10 -- 51,435 Thailand COVID patients in serious/critical condition -- almost unchanged: Jan. 4 -- 555 Feb. 1 -- 557 Feb 10 -- 563 Sources from MoPH: (the largest white font number in each chart is the total number of COVID cases under any treatment as of that date. The top right hand corner number in each graphic is the actual real COVID hospitalizations.) The bottom right hand corner blue font number in each chart is COVID patients requiring intubation to breath. Jan.4 Feb.1 Feb. 10 https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos The problem is that the bulk of the new hospitalizations came in the last 2 weeks, so some fraction of those patients will be going to ICU. And some will die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said: Omicron is already endemic in Thailand. Do you understand the words "horse, stable door and bolted." No, Omicron is not endemic in Thailand. Here's a hint: endemic diseases do not cause hospitalizations to triple in a month. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Time to stop all this mass testing and follow Sweden back to the old normal https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/sweden-stops-mass-covid-19-testing/100820856 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted February 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: Time to stop all this mass testing and follow Sweden back to the old normal https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/sweden-stops-mass-covid-19-testing/100820856 Already, Thailand has never carried out mass testing, its one step ahead of Sweden https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing Edited February 10, 2022 by Bkk Brian 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: Time to stop all this mass testing and follow Sweden back to the old normal https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/sweden-stops-mass-covid-19-testing/100820856 Think of the money they will lose from hospitalising tourists. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherrytreeview Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: No, Omicron is not endemic in Thailand. Here's a hint: endemic diseases do not cause hospitalizations to triple in a month. . Here's a hint. Take off your rose tinted glasses, turn on a TV and see what's happening in the developed world. The real spread of covid in Thailand is as limited as the testing and reporting allow. You keep your tin hat on, the rest of us are moving on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said: Time to stop all this mass testing and follow Sweden back to the old normal https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/sweden-stops-mass-covid-19-testing/100820856 Sweden has 80% of its population age 50 and above TRIPLE vaxed mostly with mRNA COVID vaccines. Thailand only has 62% of its population age 60 and older DOUBLE vaxed, and a lot of those with one or more marginaly effective Sinovac shots.] And only 20-some percent of its total population that have received third booster shots thus far. The two countries aren't even remotely in the same situation COVID-risk wise. Edited February 10, 2022 by TallGuyJohninBKK 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said: Here's a hint. Take off your rose tinted glasses, turn on a TV and see what's happening in the developed world. The real spread of covid in Thailand is as limited as the testing and reporting allow. You keep your tin hat on, the rest of us are moving on. Yep. Where hospitalizations from Omicron trend down, countries react accordingly. Hospitalizations in Thailand are trending up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Cake Monster said: Thailand did extremely well to " control " the rise of Omicron during their High Season for Tourists. Now the high season has all but finished, the " control " seems to have slipped and we are seeing some relatively large increases in the Infection numbers. However, the rate of increases are still very small compared to what other Nations around the Globe have reported It was interesting to note that of 434 Infections on Phuket, there were 192 Foreigners among them, which is close to 50 % of the cases This seems very high compared in relation to the population of Phuket at around 300,000 Thailands testing numbers have plummeted recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Sweden has 80% of its population age 50 and above TRIPLE vaxed mostly with mRNA COVID vaccines. Thailand only has 62% of its population age 60 and older DOUBLE vaxed, and a lot of those with one or more marginaly effective Sinovac shots.] And only 20-some percent of its total population that have received third booster shots thus far. The two countries aren't even remotely in the same situation COVID-risk wise. As Bkk Brian has noted Thailand never really did mass testing anyway so not much point in counting, just treat the sick instead of counting those that are not sick.Time to move on. Edited February 10, 2022 by FarFlungFalang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 15 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said: As Bkk Brian has noted Thailand never really did mass testing anyway so not much point in counting, just treat the sick instead of counting those that are not sick.Time to move on. As posted earlier in this thread, that's getting harder and harder to do in Thailand lately... Thailand COVID hospitalization (real ones, not "hospitels" and such) -- tripled: Jan. 4 -- 17,280 Feb. 1 -- 40,590 Feb 10 -- 51,435 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherrytreeview Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: As posted earlier in this thread, that's getting harder and harder to do in Thailand lately... Thailand COVID hospitalization (real ones, not "hospitels" and such) -- tripled: Jan. 4 -- 17,280 Feb. 1 -- 40,590 Feb 10 -- 51,435 Are these hospitalisations with covid or because of covid? The UK's hospitalisations due to covid where relatively low with omicron. Many patients where admitted for other reasons and just happened to test positive for covid in hospital. Would be interesting to know. https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/are-hospital-admissions-still-best-way-gauge-covid-crisis-2022-01-19/ Edited February 10, 2022 by Cherrytreeview Edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said: Are these hospitalisations with covid or because of covid? The UK's hospitalisations due to covid where relatively low with omicron. Many patients where admitted for other reasons and just happened to test positive for covid in hospital. Would be interesting to know. https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/are-hospital-admissions-still-best-way-gauge-covid-crisis-2022-01-19/ It's possible, but it would not explain the increase. The number of heart attacks or other diseases has surely not tripled between Jan. 4 and Feb. 10. It is very likely that this number remained more or less constant. Jan. 4 -- 17,280 Feb. 1 -- 40,590 Feb 10 -- 51,435 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 15 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said: Are these hospitalisations with covid or because of covid? The UK's hospitalisations due to covid where relatively low with omicron. Many patients where admitted for other reasons and just happened to test positive for covid in hospital. Would be interesting to know. I don't believe Thailand details their COVID hospitalization data that way.... But, something is driving the tripling of hospitalized patients with COVID since the start of the year... I would imagine, it's some combination of: a: there are lots more people with COVID who are getting hospitalized for some reason and/or b: there are lots more people with COVID who are needing hospitalization because of COVID. Either way, it suggests there are lots more people with COVID. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherrytreeview Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Thanks. Must admit this is worrying on a number of levels. Not least for those in hospital. If history is anything to go by, then restrictions will be increased. Looks like 20% boosted just isn't good enough and seemingly no urgency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Nojohndoe said: If numbers of hospitalizations and deaths directly due to covid were published in differentiation to totality of "detected" infections it would be more genuinely indicative of impact. Near 15,000 new infection and 8500 recoveries? Recoveries from near death or what? 14822 new cases.....Hospitalized , icu, aspirated????? It gets boringly continuously superficially irrelevant to the reality of stretched tolerance ! recoveries - 2 negative pcr tests over 24 hours. New cases - just testing positive on a pcr test. None say anuthing about severity. Just watch the number of deaths, seriousand ventilated cases that are published each day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said: As Bkk Brian has noted Thailand never really did mass testing anyway so not much point in counting, just treat the sick instead of counting those that are not sick.Time to move on. Just let tourists visit and still lock them up in quarantine when they test positive. You stop counting the infections then you have to stop testing the tourists as well or it really shows the true intentions of what they see the tourists as, a cash cow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 Thailand reports 15,242 new COVID-19 cases, 23 deaths, 8,955 recoveries File photo Thailand on Friday (February 11) reported 15,242 new COVID-19 cases, 8,955 recoveries and 23 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1249955-thailand-reports-15242-new-covid-19-cases-23-deaths-8955-recoveries/ //CLOSED// /Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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