webfact Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 File photo Thailand on Saturday (February 12) reported 16,330 new COVID-19 cases, 9,205 recoveries and 25 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. ▶︎ Infections outside prisons: 16,180. Prisons: 150 ▶︎ Recoveries: 9,205 Saturday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 infections in Thailand to 2,577,445 with 22,412 deaths. The news comes as Thailand’s leading virologist has indicated that injecting the 3rd shot of AstraZeneca vaccine, following two initial jabs of the same vaccine, does not provide a substantial boost to COVID immunity. Dr. Yong Poovorawan, head of the Center of Excellence in Clinical Virology at the Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University, explained that the practice, dubbed “Triple A”, yield less potent result due to the fact that the immunity provided by two AstraZeneca doses would decrease over time. And after receiving an AstraZeneca booster dose, immunity increases by “one log scale or a little higher” than after receiving two doses of the vaccine. According to Dr. Yong, a study by his office produced an identical result as the one from Oxford University on the matter. *NNT contributed to this report Discover Cigna’s range of health insurance solutions created for expats and local nationals living in Thailand - click to view -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2022-02-12 - Aetna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1492281266926137344 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted February 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2022 PCR test positive cases, total of 16,330 official new infections. 25 official covid deaths recorded. Rapid tests positive cases, 8,354 bringing the total of PCR and ATK results to 24,684 https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/ Rolling 7 day average chart from 10th Feb https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 610 patients in ICU, that's the highest number since 30th Dec last year. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sharecropper Posted February 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2022 Yesterday I had two friends - with NON-COVID medical issues, coincidentally seeking hospital beds in Bangkok in two public hospitals and one major international private hospital - and they couldn't not get one, as they are full. They were advised to go home and rest instead, and try again next week. This indicates the real pressure on hospitals here - and I don't believe the government's figures for one minute. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6969 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Groan.... more doctored figures.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosLobo Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) 16330 positive cases / 24684 tests = 66% positivity rate! What does a positivity rate of 66% mean? Some countries recently have had up to 40%. Edited February 12, 2022 by LosLobo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, LosLobo said: 16330 positive cases / 24684 tests = 66% positivity rate! What does a positivity rate of 66% mean? Some countries recently have had up to 40%. Surely, this cannot be correct? https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/positive-rate-daily-smoothed?tab=chart&country=CHL~KOR~ZAF~IND~USA~GBR~DEU~THA~AUS In this case it simply means the number of positives as a percentage of tests done. It will appear high if tests are very selective or targeted. In essence, it likely indicates that widespread testing is not done. 1 hour ago, sharecropper said: Yesterday I had two friends - with NON-COVID medical issues, coincidentally seeking hospital beds in Bangkok in two public hospitals and one major international private hospital - and they couldn't not get one, as they are full. They were advised to go home and rest instead, and try again next week. This indicates the real pressure on hospitals here - and I don't believe the government's figures for one minute. That's bad. Overfocusing on Covid19 has an impact on non covid patients. There are huge waiting lists in UK. Thailand also has limited resources available, so hospitals may easily get overwhelmed. Edited February 12, 2022 by mommysboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, LosLobo said: 16330 positive cases / 24684 tests = 66% positivity rate! What does a positivity rate of 66% mean? Some countries recently have had up to 40%. 16,330 PCR positive cases 8,354 ATK positive cases The official dashboard gives a positivity rate for PCR testing at 15.80% https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/ which is still very high but the true positivity rate is probably closer to the chart number below at 23.8% even higher and showing a desperate need for more testing https://djay.github.io/covidthailand/#testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyami Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 they have at least another month of this high positivity rate of 60%+ also mean its ripping through many wont know they got it, steep rise will be matched with a sharp drop as in many countries some who have fully reopened. Omicron is the cure for covid it just spead fast 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted February 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2022 Another rise in the doctored figures but who cares? I was out last night and I'll be out again tonight. Probably get hit by a bus refusing to stop at the zebra crossing ????. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosLobo Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 31 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: 16,330 PCR positive cases 8,354 ATK positive cases The official dashboard gives a positivity rate for PCR testing at 15.80% https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/ which is still very high but the true positivity rate is probably closer to the chart number below at 23.8% even higher and showing a desperate need for more testing https://djay.github.io/covidthailand/#testing Sorry I misread the figures. Must be dementia ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 42 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: The official dashboard gives a positivity rate for PCR testing at 15.80% https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/ which is still very high but the true positivity rate is probably closer to the chart number below at 23.8% even higher and showing a desperate need for more testing Yeah, these positivity figures should be cause for alarm with the regime's health minister. Massively more testing is definitely called for. Or just sit back and hope for the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 hours ago, webfact said: The news comes as Thailand’s leading virologist has indicated that injecting the 3rd shot of AstraZeneca vaccine, following two initial jabs of the same vaccine, does not provide a substantial boost to COVID immunity. anyone notice that all these reports about vaccines and boosters are avoiding the primary vaccine used in Thailand (sinovac) that probably accounts for 80% of vaccines administered - I wonder why that is 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi85 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 57 minutes ago, tomyami said: they have at least another month of this high positivity rate of 60%+ also mean its ripping through many wont know they got it, steep rise will be matched with a sharp drop as in many countries some who have fully reopened. Omicron is the cure for covid it just spead fast Where are you getting 60% from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, smedly said: anyone notice that all these reports about vaccines and boosters are avoiding the primary vaccine used in Thailand (sinovac) that probably accounts for 80% of vaccines administered - I wonder why that is Well considering that Thailand advice's a booster shot after just 4 weeks after taking your second shot of Sinovac probably says it all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigar Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Well considering that Thailand advice's a booster shot after just 4 weeks after taking your second shot of Sinovac probably says it all. Rigth.In my country minimum 3 moths after second jab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted February 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) A shameful statistic....................47.34% schools still no onsite learning, yet 95.11 per cent of students received their first jab, and 71.41 their second jab. More than 50% of schools conducting onsite classes The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) reported on Friday that as of February 8, 18,582 or 52.26 per cent of 35,554 schools nationwide had opened and were conducting onsite classes. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40012255 Edited February 12, 2022 by Bkk Brian 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 hour ago, tomyami said: they have at least another month of this high positivity rate of 60%+ also mean its ripping through many wont know they got it, steep rise will be matched with a sharp drop as in many countries some who have fully reopened. Omicron is the cure for covid it just spead fast Agreed, but there's still an uncomfortable price to pay in terms of premature death- it has the power to topple the very vulnerable. Not an easy decision for a country like Thailand, where older people are valued by their younger relatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 hours ago, anchadian said: https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1492281266926137344 Chonburi province - further details 521 positive ATK tests were reported but all require a second confirmed PCR test before being counted as official cases. The ATK positive tests are just “possible” cases until confirmed by PCR. https://thepattayanews.com/2022/02/12/chonburi-announces-813-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-and-no-new-deaths/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 55 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: A shameful statistic....................47.34% schools still no onsite learning, yet 95.11 per cent of students received their first jab, and 71.41 their second jab. More than 50% of schools conducting onsite classes The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) reported on Friday that as of February 8, 18,582 or 52.26 per cent of 35,554 schools nationwide had opened and were conducting onsite classes. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40012255 Hard to believe 95% of ALL students have had a jab...maybe those over 12 years of age. My daughters old school reopened at the beginning of last week and closed again on Friday when covid cases amongst the kids started appearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virt Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) The positivity rate are not always an indication of to few tests being done. During most of the pandemic here in Denmark we were below 5%, and tested most per million in the world. So that gave us a good indication of the real numbers. Omicron totally messed that up and we're now at positives % near 30% the last week. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/positive-rate-daily-smoothed?tab=chart&time=2020-04-16..latest&country=~DNK That's because so many are infected and we changed the guidelines for PCR testing. Now you're just supposed to take a test if you have symptoms or close contact with a person tested positive, so now it's a more targeted group that get tested. We also dropped all restrictions and that means no need for negative tests anymore for the unvaxed, for them being able to visit restaurants and such. So that's a large group that stopped testing several times a week, which also narrows the target group. We're still testing approx 40 times more than Thailand per million, so our daily numbers of positives are still a lot closer to the truth compared to Thailand. But this mass testing is extremely expensive and they are talking about dropping the mass PCR testing. After omicron arrived and omicron BA.2 sub variant is almost 100% dominant, we really don't need the data to show if 1000 or 100000 is infected each day. We can look at the daily data for those in ICU instead, and that's not worrying even if we still have HUGE numbers of positives. Thailands 610 admissions to ICU are higher than it's supposed to be so i would assume they still have a lot of Delta cases. If all in ICU are omicron something is not right. Does Thailand have a statistic showing which variant the ones in ICU are tested positive for? Edited February 12, 2022 by Virt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cherrytreeview Posted February 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: A shameful statistic....................47.34% schools still no onsite learning, yet 95.11 per cent of students received their first jab, and 71.41 their second jab. More than 50% of schools conducting onsite classes The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) reported on Friday that as of February 8, 18,582 or 52.26 per cent of 35,554 schools nationwide had opened and were conducting onsite classes. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40012255 Disgraceful statistic. Thailand still seems terrified of anything covid related. No planning, acceptance, understanding, just panic. If in doubt take the easiest way out, shut the school and send everyone home. Many pupils poor education has just become nonexistent. Passed from one generation to the next. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 hour ago, anchadian said: Chonburi province - further details 521 positive ATK tests were reported but all require a second confirmed PCR test before being counted as official cases. The ATK positive tests are just “possible” cases until confirmed by PCR. https://thepattayanews.com/2022/02/12/chonburi-announces-813-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-and-no-new-deaths/ The vast majority of those will also stay as "possible" cases as we know they do not confirm with PCR unless they enter hospital for treatment. Interesting to see that WHO Thailand in its weekly updates also now includes the ATK positive cases, this last one from the 9th Feb. https://www.who.int/thailand/emergencies/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted February 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Virt said: The positivity rate are not always an indication of to few tests being done. During most of the pandemic here in Denmark we were below 5%, and tested most per million in the world. So that gave us a good indication of the real numbers. Omicron totally messed that up and we're now at positives % near 30% the last week. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/positive-rate-daily-smoothed?tab=chart&time=2020-04-16..latest&country=~DNK That's because so many are infected and we changed the guidelines for PCR testing. Now you're just supposed to take a test if you have symptoms or close contact with a person tested positive, so now it's a more targeted group that get tested. We also dropped all restrictions and that means no need for negative tests anymore for the unvaxed, for them being able to visit restaurants and such. So that's a large group that stopped testing several times a week, which also narrows the target group. We're still testing approx 40 times more than Thailand per million, so our daily numbers of positives are still a lot closer to the truth compared to Thailand. But this mass testing is extremely expensive and they are talking about dropping the mass PCR testing. After omicron arrived and omicron BA.2 sub variant is almost 100% dominant, we really don't need the data to show if 1000 or 100000 is infected each day. We can look at the daily data for those in ICU instead, and that's not worrying even if we still have HUGE numbers of positives. Thailands 610 admissions to ICU are higher than it's supposed to be so i would assume they still have a lot of Delta cases. If all in ICU are omicron something is not right. Does Thailand have a statistic showing which variant the ones in ICU are tested positive for? I recommend watching the weekly video update a couple of days ago from Tim Spector ... Professor of Genetic Epidemiology, King's College London, who runs the Zoe app in the UK with nearly a million contributions weekly from the UK population. He touches on Denmark and other countries in Europe. I believe it gives some good insight into how this may also play out in Thailand. The notion that Omicron will just dive bomb down after peaking is looking to be more a myth than fact, yes the highest peak quickly decreases but currently levels remain very high with the UK seeing waves. My take on this is that as with Denmark, the UK and other European countries that are living with this with minimal or no restrictions Thailand needs to get into gear and realize that its never going away entirely and likely the numbers will remain high for some time yet. The Test and Go, outside mask mandates, bars, schools and entertainment closed has to come to an end. Edited February 12, 2022 by onthedarkside disallowed social media video removed 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Thailand to donate COVID-19 vaccine to Vietnam, five others Thailand’s Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) on February 11 approved a proposal to donate up to 3.55 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine to six countries, including Vietnam. https://en.vietnamplus.vn/thailand-to-donate-covid19-vaccine-to-vietnam-five-others/221977.vnp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 hours ago, LosLobo said: 16330 positive cases / 24684 tests = 66% positivity rate! That is a massive red flag and suggests that covid is indeed spreading very quickly and widely throughout the community right now. The true number of infections is going to be immeasurably higher than the detected number, by that I'm talking about hundreds of thousands per day, every day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzydon Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 The trouble with these numbers is that up here no one reports positive atk texts they don't want to go to hospital so they isolate at home its everywhere up here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Thailand 2022 COVID hospitalizations (regular hospitals): Jan. 4 -- 17,280 Feb. 1 -- 40,590 Feb 10 -- 51,435 Feb 11 -- 55,058 Feb 12 -- 56,099 Thailand 2022 COVID patients in serious/critical condition: Jan. 4 -- 555 Feb. 1 -- 557 Feb. 10 -- 563 Feb. 11 -- 569 Feb. 12 -- 610 https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106142991004034/502478244703838/?type=3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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