COVID-19 - April 28: Thailand reports 14,437 new coronavirus cases, 18,509 recoveries, 127 deaths

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Thailand on Thursday (April 28) reported 14,437 new COVID-19 cases, 18,509 recoveries and 127 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. 

 

Thursday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 infections in Thailand to 4,224,008 with 28,271 deaths.

 

The news comes as no provinces have met criteria for the declaration of COVID-19 as an endemic disease, according to the Department of Disease Control.

 

Dr Chakkarat Pittayawong-anont, director of the department's epidemiology division, said no provinces were likely to fulfill criteria for the redefinition of COVID-19 as an endemic disease in the near future.

 

According to primary criteria, new COVID-19 cases must not rise, more than 60% of local people have received their third COVID-19 vaccine shot, more than 80% of people aged 60 years and over must have receive their first jab and more. than 60% of the senior citizens must have got their booster shot.**

 

**TNA contributed to this report

 

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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

New COVID deaths and serious hospitalizations ticked upward to 127 and 1,827 on Thursday while newly reported official COVID cases declined slightly to 14,437 and total active cases under care continued its daily declines to 158,768.

 

The COVID update Thursday by the Ministry of Public Health, for the most part, reflected only small changes from Wednesday’s report, where new deaths and new cases both had moved upward after several days each of daily declines.

 

The 127 new COVID deaths reported Thursday compared to 125 yesterday and 120 the day before that. The serious hospitalizations at 1,827 was a slight increase from the 1,822 reported yesterday and the 1,825 the day before. But the 14,437 official new cases count was a decline from yesterday’s 14,887, but above the day before’s 13,816 tally.

 

Overall, the total number of active cases under care continued its ongoing series of daily declines, falling from 162,967 yesterday to 158,768 today.

 

The subset of the most seriously ill hospitalized COVID patients, those requiring intubation in order to breathe, remained unchanged Thursday at 850, compared to the year-high number of 940 on April 19.

 

Among on the various updates reported Thursday, the new COVID deaths at 127 was the closest to Thailand's year' high tally of 129 set on several days earlier this month. But the daily new cases count remained about half of the year-high 28,379 count set on April 1.

 

Thailand has now had 19 consecutive days of 100 or more daily new COVID deaths, a streak stretching back to April 10 when daily deaths hit 108.

 

Thailand's counts of official daily new COVID cases are widely considered a vast undercount to the actual numbers of cases in the country. But the general movements up or down of the various statistics, especially daily deaths and hospitalizations, still gives some current picture of the direction of the pandemic in the country.

 

For context, during the peak of the Delta wave last fall, Thailand's daily COVID case count topped out at 23,418, but the numbers of serious hospital cases and the intubated share of those peaked above 5,600 and 1,100 respectively, and daily deaths topped 300 for a brief period.

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/550344586583870

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/?dashboard=main

 

[ThailandRyan]

29 minutes ago, webfact said:

According to primary criteria, new COVID-19 cases must not rise, more than 60% of local people have received their third COVID-19 vaccine shot, more than 80% of people aged 60 years and over must have receive their first jab and more. than 60% of the senior citizens must have got their booster shot.**

If this is the criteria to make Covid Endemic in Thailand, well then there is a long way to go with the booster vaccinations.  As I see it they are far off the mark, and at the rate they are going then maybe by 2023 they will meet their criteria, unless it gets changed like they changed the criteria to meet 100 million vaccinations last year.

[Bkk Brian]

PCR test positive cases, total of 14,437 official new infections. 127 official covid deaths recorded.

 

Rapid tests positive cases, 11,396 bringing the total of PCR and ATK results to 25,833

https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/

 

OWD rolling 7 day average, cases and deaths up to 26th April

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

59 minutes ago, webfact said:

Dr Chakkarat Pittayawong-anont, director of the department's epidemiology division, said no provinces were likely to fulfill criteria for the redefinition of COVID-19 as an endemic disease in the near future.

 

According to primary criteria, new COVID-19 cases must not rise, more than 60% of local people have received their third COVID-19 vaccine shot, more than 80% of people aged 60 years and over must have receive their first jab and more. than 60% of the senior citizens must have got their booster shot.**

 

As of yesterday, in terms of achieving the government's endemic status goals:

 

--only 36.8% of the general population had received their third shot booster dose -- far from the 60% goal.

 

--84.1% of senior citizens age 60 and above had received their first vaccine dose -- meaning Thailand as a whole has met that 80% goal.

 

--only 40.6% of senior citizens age 60 and above had received their third shot booster dose -- far from the 60% goal.

 

Edited April 28, 2022 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[anchadian]

Phuket marks 79 new COVID cases, no deaths

 

PHUKET: The latest Phuket Provincial Public Health Office (PPHO) daily COVID situation report has marked 79 new local infections confirmed across the island yesterday (Apr 27), bringing the total number of infections recorded since Jan 1 to 51,772.

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-marks-79-new-covid-cases-no-deaths-83957.php

[KanchanaburiGuy]

Seems to me, daily Covid death counts have been remarkably consistent for about 10 days now, falling invariably (almost) between 124 and 129.

 

This is remarkable when one considers there are a couple of dozen factors that can contribute to it going up or down, rising or falling. And yet it's stayed within a very narrow range. 

 

The point? 

 

Too much consistency is just as much a "red flag" as too much variability. 

 

* Blackjack dealers getting "21" too often?

 

* The same numbers keep coming up on a Roulette wheel?

 

* The same 5 or 6 numbers keep coming up in a Lottery?

 

Over that time frame, Covid deaths should have  fluctuated more than this. The fact that they haven't seems........... suspicious. 

 

127 - - 28/4/22

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129 - - 23/4/22

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124 - - 18/4/22

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125 - - 16/4/22

 

No, Covid death counts shouldn't be as variable as a lottery. But they shouldn't be as consistent as a metronome, either.  

 

Suspicious? To me............ you betcha! 

 

On the other hand........ 

 

If I were a betting man..........!

 

????????????

 

Cheers! 

Edited April 28, 2022 by KanchanaburiGuy

[anchadian]

Chonburi announces 499 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 and nine new deaths

 

Four people were listed as being in serious condition in Chonburi currently, either on a ventilator or with pneumonia. Two of them were not vaccinated. According to the Chonburi Department of Public Health, the vast majority of recent cases are mild or asymptomatic.

 

The nine new deaths were aged 40, 52, 58, 62, 67, 87, 88, 90, and 91 with severe personal health problems and pre-existing conditions. Five of them were not vaccinated.

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2022/04/28/chonburi-announces-499-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-and-nine-new-deaths/

[anchadian]

Tourism Recovery Uneven Across SE Asia

 

A few countries continue to apply stricter entry restrictions, such as Thailand, a leading tourism destination in the region, before the pandemic. In Thailand, international visitors are still subjected to bureaucratic rules. ForwardKeys reports that flight bookings to Singapore and the Philippines are 72% and 65% of 2019 levels, respectively, while Thailand bookings are only 24% of what they were in 2019. 

 

https://balidiscovery.com/tourism-recovery-uneven-across-se-asia/

[mommysboy]

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

As of yesterday, in terms of achieving the government's endemic status goals:

 

--only 36.8% of the general population had received their third shot booster dose -- far from the 60% goal.

 

--84.1% of senior citizens age 60 and above had received their first vaccine dose -- meaning Thailand as a whole has met that 80% goal.

 

--only 40.6% of senior citizens age 60 and above had received their third shot booster dose -- far from the 60% goal.

 

It's all about vaccinating the risk groups- everything else is fluff as I've always said.

 

Even then a country has to accept an uncomfortable death rate- similar to a bad flu season in northern Europe.

 

Thailand falls short on both counts, hence, the reluctance to open up. It's understandable of course, but most countries understand that Omicron will have its way sooner or later, and later means disruption and economic woes.

 

 

 

 

[mommysboy]

35 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Tourism Recovery Uneven Across SE Asia

 

A few countries continue to apply stricter entry restrictions, such as Thailand, a leading tourism destination in the region, before the pandemic. In Thailand, international visitors are still subjected to bureaucratic rules. ForwardKeys reports that flight bookings to Singapore and the Philippines are 72% and 65% of 2019 levels, respectively, while Thailand bookings are only 24% of what they were in 2019. 

 

https://balidiscovery.com/tourism-recovery-uneven-across-se-asia/

Travelers from Europe want to put the age of lockdowns and restrictions firmly in the past. They are not going to want to fly straight back in to them.  Who wants a bad holiday- of all things?

[webfact]

[buick]

i wonder if the govt can 'adjust' their booster criteria of 60% to include people who have had two shots plus a covid infection.  i don't know a large number of people in thailand but within the group i do know, nearly everyone has had the virus (confirmed with a test).  the majority of that group had two shots, no booster.   seems reasonable to me and the govt likely has that data, who got vaccinated and who got infected.

Edited April 28, 2022 by buick
edit: i'm talking about thais here in terms of the vax and infection data

[Eleftheros]

4 hours ago, KanchanaburiGuy said:

No, Covid death counts shouldn't be as variable as a lottery. But they shouldn't be as consistent as a metronome, either.  

Another question that should be asked is : "Are these deaths from Covid, or with Covid?"

 

If it is with Covid, as in most countries, then it's going to be very difficult to reduce those numbers, because the Covid virus is not going to disappear and people will continue to get infected.

 

You could equally ask: "How many people die every day from AIDS in Thailand?" From AIDS, not so many. With AIDS, every day will be more than 1% of deaths, since that is the proportion of Thai people who carry AIDS, according to the United Nations UNAIDS data.

[KanchanaburiGuy]

53 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

Another question that should be asked is : "Are these deaths from Covid, or with Covid?"

 

If it is with Covid, as in most countries, then it's going to be very difficult to reduce those numbers, because the Covid virus is not going to disappear and people will continue to get infected.

 

You could equally ask: "How many people die every day from AIDS in Thailand?" From AIDS, not so many. With AIDS, every day will be more than 1% of deaths, since that is the proportion of Thai people who carry AIDS, according to the United Nations UNAIDS data.

I think it is pretty well established now........... two years on......... that when a death is listed as a "Covid Death," Covid caused the death.

 

Covid infection may have been the initial instigating factor that lead to a breakdown of health............ or......... it may have been the proverbial "straw-that-broke-the-camel's-back" for a person with another serious condition; a condition that may have been tolerable for some indefinable future period of time............ that suddenly became............. 

IN-tolerable. 

 

But in both cases, it would be correct to say the death was caused BY Covid. The first by direct Cause and Effect; the second by being the proverbial "Straw-that......."

 

In both cases, had there been no Covid-19 infection........... death would almost certainly not have occurred then. 

 

Thus, the questions of whether the Covid Death Numbers include those who merely HAD the virus? ......... That's not really a question any more. 

 

Covid Death Numbers represent only those whose death is attributable TO Covid-19.......... and NOT those who have merely been exposed to it, but managed to remain effectively unaffected by it. 

 

Cheers! 

Edited April 28, 2022 by KanchanaburiGuy

[mtraveler]

5 hours ago, KanchanaburiGuy said:

Seems to me, daily Covid death counts have been remarkably consistent for about 10 days now, falling invariably (almost) between 124 and 129.

 

This is remarkable when one considers there are a couple of dozen factors that can contribute to it going up or down, rising or falling. And yet it's stayed within a very narrow range. 

 

The point? 

 

Too much consistency is just as much a "red flag" as too much variability. 

 

* Blackjack dealers getting "21" too often?

 

* The same numbers keep coming up on a Roulette wheel?

 

* The same 5 or 6 numbers keep coming up in a Lottery?

 

Over that time frame, Covid deaths should have  fluctuated more than this. The fact that they haven't seems........... suspicious. 

 

127 - - 28/4/22

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124

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129 - - 23/4/22

128

129

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129

124 - - 18/4/22

128 - - 17/4/22

125 - - 16/4/22

 

No, Covid death counts shouldn't be as variable as a lottery. But they shouldn't be as consistent as a metronome, either.  

 

Suspicious? To me............ you betcha! 

 

On the other hand........ 

 

If I were a betting man..........!

 

????????????

 

Cheers! 

Thank you for posting this.  I had been thinking the exact same thing when I saw the 5 days that ranged between 128-129 deaths.  Beyond improbable.  

[Eleftheros]

2 hours ago, KanchanaburiGuy said:

But in both cases, it would be correct to say the death was caused BY Covid. The first by direct Cause and Effect; the second by being the proverbial "Straw-that......."

I don't think that notion does justice to the data.

 

For example, CDC director Rochelle Walensky said recently that 99% of people who died 'of Covid' also suffered from at least one comorbidity, and 75% of those who died had at least 4 comorbidities.

 

So while they would not perhaps have died if they haven't contracted Covid, they also would not perhaps have died if they had not suffered from comorbidities such as diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, obesity, previous respiratory problems or mental degeneration.

 

In my estimation, to mark that down as simply "a Covid death" skews not only the Covid figures, but also the figures for the other comorbidities, which could affect public health decisions in future.

 

Still, that's a matter for the authorities. I have no insight into how Thailand decides what is and what is not a Covid death, but the stability of the daily death numbers is certainly worth keeping an eye on.

[ThailandRyan]

8 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

I don't think that notion does justice to the data.

 

For example, CDC director Rochelle Walensky said recently that 99% of people who died 'of Covid' also suffered from at least one comorbidity, and 75% of those who died had at least 4 comorbidities.

 

So while they would not perhaps have died if they haven't contracted Covid, they also would not perhaps have died if they had not suffered from comorbidities such as diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, obesity, previous respiratory problems or mental degeneration.

 

In my estimation, to mark that down as simply "a Covid death" skews not only the Covid figures, but also the figures for the other comorbidities, which could affect public health decisions in future.

 

Still, that's a matter for the authorities. I have no insight into how Thailand decides what is and what is not a Covid death, but the stability of the daily death numbers is certainly worth keeping an eye on.

Stop comparing elsewhere to the way Thailand counts their deaths. Do you even live here like the majority who post.  By the way The US CDC does not run Thailand nor the MOPH.  Thailand changed the way they decide if a death is from covid or not a few months back.  They only count a death from Covid as a death and not a death of a person who now has covid and other major medical issues and died from them as a death.   Neither do they count it as a Covid death up to 28 days after one has had covid. 

Edited April 28, 2022 by ThailandRyan

[Rimmer]

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[Eleftheros]

It is clear from data supplied by the Chonburi Department of Public Health that it records Covid deaths very like they are treated elsewhere in the world, that is, a death of someone infected with Covid, regardless of serious underlying health issues, is marked as a "Covid death". 

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2022/04/28/chonburi-announces-499-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-and-nine-new-deaths/

 

This may seem like a small point, but I don't think it is - if the distinction is made transparently between deaths where Covid is the primary cause of death, and where Covid is a secondary factor, then everyone - both the public and the health authorities - has a better understanding of how to make people safer from this illness.

 

And keeping their people safe is the stated aim of governments around the world.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

41 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

It is clear from data supplied by the Chonburi Department of Public Health that it records Covid deaths very like they are treated elsewhere in the world, that is, a death of someone infected with Covid, regardless of serious underlying health issues, is marked as a "Covid death". 

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2022/04/28/chonburi-announces-499-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-and-nine-new-deaths/

 

This may seem like a small point, but I don't think it is - if the distinction is made transparently between deaths where Covid is the primary cause of death, and where Covid is a secondary factor, then everyone - both the public and the health authorities - has a better understanding of how to make people safer from this illness.

 

And keeping their people safe is the stated aim of governments around the world.

I think you're assuming too much, based on the peculiar wording that Chonburi is using... wording that isn't used by the Thai MoPH elsewhere.

 

There's no factual indication that MoPH here is currently counting COVID deaths that in fact were CAUSED by other factors.

 

Just the fact that someone has pre-existing conditions when they die doesn't mean that those pre-existing conditions were the cause of their death. People who may be overweight, have high blood pressure, have kidney disease that's common in Thailand, etc etc. don't automatically and necessarily die from those things.

 

Instead, they may be more suseptible to worse outcomes when something else comes along to imperil their health, and that something else is COVID. If it's COVID that ultimately triggers the final demise of someone with pre-existing conditions, then it's COVID that properly should get listed on the death certificate, along with whatever other contributing causes were present.

 

And more broadly, all the research that's been done during the pandemic pretty much universally agrees that the official counts of COVID deaths in the world and individual countries generally are a significant undercount to those that have actually occurred.

 

So in reality, it's more a case of the official counts UNDERCOUNTING the overall reality of COVID fatalities, even if there are some isolated instances where deaths aren't properly classified.

 

Edited April 28, 2022 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Bkk Brian]

36 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

It is clear from data supplied by the Chonburi Department of Public Health that it records Covid deaths very like they are treated elsewhere in the world, that is, a death of someone infected with Covid, regardless of serious underlying health issues, is marked as a "Covid death". 

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2022/04/28/chonburi-announces-499-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-and-nine-new-deaths/

 

This may seem like a small point, but I don't think it is - if the distinction is made transparently between deaths where Covid is the primary cause of death, and where Covid is a secondary factor, then everyone - both the public and the health authorities - has a better understanding of how to make people safer from this illness.

 

And keeping their people safe is the stated aim of governments around the world.

Not sure how you find that so clear on how they record deaths that way in Thailand. If I was you I would leave it to the professionals that are well aware of the complexities in recording the causes of a death and if covid was the cause or a contributory cause then that will be mentioned on the death certificate. If not then it would be an incidental case. Unless of course you expect each death certificate to be published.

 

The UK ONS reports are clear how they report covid deaths with covid as a cause on the death certificate or not as the case maybe.

 

Thailand has also changed its system back in early March, "Thai government to change how Covid-19 deaths are recorded" and now ensures that covid deaths reported are only those where covid is a cause.

[webfact]

COVID-19 - April 29: Thailand reports 14,053 new coronavirus cases, 16,782 recoveries, 129 deaths

 

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Thailand on Friday (April 29) reported 14,053 new COVID-19 cases, 16,782 recoveries and 129 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. 

 

Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1258188-covid-19-april-29-thailand-reports-14053-new-coronavirus-cases-16782-recoveries-129-deaths/

 

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