Capitol attack pardon revelations could spell doom for Trump and allies

[onthedarkside]

 

 

The House select committee investigating the Capitol attack revealed at its inaugural hearing that Donald Trump’s top Republican allies in Congress sought pardons after the January 6 insurrection, a major disclosure that bolstered the claim that the event amounted to a coup and is likely to cause serious scrutiny for those implicated.

 

The news that multiple House Republicans asked the Trump White House for pardons – an apparent consciousness of guilt – was one of three revelations portending potentially perilous legal and political moments to come for Trump and his allies.

 

At the hearing, the panel’s vice-chair Liz Cheney named only one Republican member of Congress, congressman Scott Perry, the current chair of the ultra conservative House freedom caucus, who sought a presidential pardon for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.

 

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https://news.yahoo.com/capitol-attack-pardon-revelations-could-080043087.html

 

 

[onthedarkside]

GOP Rep. Scott Perry says it's a 'soulless lie' that he sought a pardon from Trump after Liz Cheney said he did

Republican Rep. Scott Perry blasted any suggestion that he sought a pardon from President Donald Trump for himself or others, rejecting an eyebrow-raising claim that was made during the House January 6 committee's first major public hearing the day before.

 

"The notion that I ever sought a Presidential pardon for myself or other Members of Congress is an absolute, shameless, and soulless lie," Perry wrote on Twitter Friday.

 

Rep. Liz Cheney, the top Republican on the panel, revealed on Thursday night that the committee uncovered evidence that Perry and other Republican lawmakers sought pardons from Trump in the wake of the January 6 insurrection, evidence that so far has not been presented to the public.

 

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https://news.yahoo.com/gop-rep-scott-perry-says-172648760.html

 

 

[Bluespunk]

35 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

The news that multiple House Republicans asked the Trump White House for pardons – an apparent consciousness of guilt – was one of three revelations portending potentially perilous legal and political moments to come for Trump and his allies.

That is fantastic news. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

If this latest witch hunt somehow manages to finally hobble Trump it is no big deal. We have Ron DeSantis waiting to take over the Republican party. In many ways he is a better candidate than Trump. He has a military background, which was a major downfall for Trump who was endlessly mocked for not having served in the military(did their man Biden even serve? hypocrisy much?) and he is much younger so no problem for a double term following and implementing the MAGA agenda.

 I'd rather see a raging Trump do one more term to get revenge against all those bad actors and anti American forces. But unlike the Democrats who really have no sensible candidates ready to take over from biden, the Republicans have a few charismatic and capable leaders in waiting.

 

[Berkshire]

On 6/13/2022 at 6:41 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

If this latest witch hunt somehow manages to finally hobble Trump it is no big deal. We have Ron DeSantis waiting to take over the Republican party. In many ways he is a better candidate than Trump. He has a military background, which was a major downfall for Trump who was endlessly mocked for not having served in the military(did their man Biden even serve? hypocrisy much?) and he is much younger so no problem for a double term following and implementing the MAGA agenda.

 I'd rather see a raging Trump do one more term to get revenge against all those bad actors and anti American forces. But unlike the Democrats who really have no sensible candidates ready to take over from biden, the Republicans have a few charismatic and capable leaders in waiting.

 

The GOP primary should be interesting.  What would be fun to watch is if Trump does decide to run again (assuming he's not in prison).  If DeSantis also runs, along with other GOP hopefuls, it will be open season on your "charismatic and capable leaders."  Trump will be coming after all of them, especially DeSantis who's probably his most formidable challenger.  Wonder what nickname Trump will give DeSantis?  

[bocaBob]

6 hours ago, Berkshire said:

(assuming he's not in prison).  If DeSantis also runs, along with other GOP

"Stop Waiting for Trump to Get Convicted"
The chances that the criminal cases against the former president will be successful are slim to none, and that will only embolden him and his followers."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/why-criminal-cases-against-trump-are-doomed/627113/

 

But, becoming president in 2024/2025 is entirely in Trump's wheel house if he so desires and the only other person who could also win is DeSantis.

And btw, ask yourself this:  would you or ANYONE vote for Biden again after his all his epic failures..... Would u vote for Beto, Pete, Kamala....lol. America has had it with the destruction wreaked by Biden.

Starting in Nov 2022, America can resume to it's brilliance buoyed by the revered MAGA movement.  Mean tweets aside, Trump and the MAGA movement are iconic and are only about 7 more months away.

Edited June 14, 2022 by bocaBob

[bocaBob]

Anyone who thinks Trump is doomed by this pardon issue or any other issue you wish to articulate please state it here.

[Jingthing]

29 minutes ago, bocaBob said:

Anyone who thinks Trump is doomed by this pardon issue or any other issue you wish to articulate please state it here.

Conspiracy to defraud the United States. FELONY

[bendejo]

Unfortunately all this mess regarding the former occupant of the White House will still be going on when we enter the next decade.  Providing the concept of elected officials in the US still exists.  This 1/6 committee will be gone by year's end, the right may be in control of Congress, and then the 2024 presidential campaign begins in spring next year.  Will he throw any and all under the bus?  ABSOLUTELY!

Will he go as far as using a walker like Weinstein does?  That, or feigning that he's coo-coo (a popular move with aging Mafia), but as we've seen he is too vain for such theatre.  (hey, is Bill Cosby still blind and in need of a walker the way he was at his sentencing?)

Oh yeah, the Justice Department.  I keep forgetting they have something to do with this.  Hopefully Biden will appoint an AG.  Oh, he did?  Guess I forgot.  When does he take office?

</sarcasm>

 

adverse inference: All those jokers who asked DT for pardons and took the Fifth have tied their own nooses.

The man behind the curtain is Steve Bannon, not just in the US but in just about all countries that are part of the New Fascism. 

For example:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/1/18648732/steve-bannons-italian-monastery-political-gladiator-school-revoke

He's the Iggy Pop of the fascist New Wave.  He could very well be in a cage in time for the 2024 election.  Well, maybe 2028 would be more likely, if at all.

 

But this is the real crisis in the US right now: 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/greene-blames-tampon-shortage-transgender-people

 

 

[Jingthing]

33 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Unfortunately all this mess regarding the former occupant of the White House will still be going on when we enter the next decade.  Providing the concept of elected officials in the US still exists.  This 1/6 committee will be gone by year's end, the right may be in control of Congress, and then the 2024 presidential campaign begins in spring next year.  Will he throw any and all under the bus?  ABSOLUTELY!

Will he go as far as using a walker like Weinstein does?  That, or feigning that he's coo-coo (a popular move with aging Mafia), but as we've seen he is too vain for such theatre.  (hey, is Bill Cosby still blind and in need of a walker the way he was at his sentencing?)

Oh yeah, the Justice Department.  I keep forgetting they have something to do with this.  Hopefully Biden will appoint an AG.  Oh, he did?  Guess I forgot.  When does he take office?

</sarcasm>

 

adverse inference: All those jokers who asked DT for pardons and took the Fifth have tied their own nooses.

The man behind the curtain is Steve Bannon, not just in the US but in just about all countries that are part of the New Fascism. 

For example:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/1/18648732/steve-bannons-italian-monastery-political-gladiator-school-revoke

He's the Iggy Pop of the fascist New Wave.  He could very well be in a cage in time for the 2024 election.  Well, maybe 2028 would be more likely, if at all.

 

But this is the real crisis in the US right now: 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/greene-blames-tampon-shortage-transgender-people

 

 

I rate the chance of Garland Indicting Trump (with a view to almost definite conviction) as probable. He is correct to be cautious but the groundswell is growing. 

[bendejo]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I rate the chance of Garland Indicting Trump (with a view to almost definite conviction) as probable. He is correct to be cautious but the groundswell is growing. 

I hope you're right.  Sometimes I say things because I want them to be wrong.  Sometimes it works.

 

 

[xylophone]

11 hours ago, bocaBob said:

"Stop Waiting for Trump to Get Convicted"
The chances that the criminal cases against the former president will be successful are slim to none, and that will only embolden him and his followers."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/why-criminal-cases-against-trump-are-doomed/627113/

 

But, becoming president in 2024/2025 is entirely in Trump's wheel house if he so desires and the only other person who could also win is DeSantis.

And btw, ask yourself this:  would you or ANYONE vote for Biden again after his all his epic failures..... Would u vote for Beto, Pete, Kamala....lol. America has had it with the destruction wreaked by Biden.

Starting in Nov 2022, America can resume to it's brilliance buoyed by the revered MAGA movement.  Mean tweets aside, Trump and the MAGA movement are iconic and are only about 7 more months away.

Such a sad post for decent and intelligent people, and shows the mindset of many of the supporters of the crooked, dumb and right wing former president.