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Legalisation of 5 chttps://aseannow.com/topic/1264485-legalisation-of-5-casinos-proposed-in-thailand-with-30-tax-collection/asinos proposed in Thailand with 30% tax collection

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The Chinese got their way again,,, soon they will control and own Thailand 

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    LOL  heck the illegal ones probably give better odds than the government.  I know that is true in the USA.  This reminds me of a joke where a man who was a billionaire saw a gorgeous woman and he a

  • ThailandRyan
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    Do these people even care that there is already a gambling problem here in Thailand, and folks go into debt and some lose houses, cars and so on.  Of course it is no different in other countries that

  • People who gamble will do so anyway. The majority of them do it on their phones or at their workplace, village, etc. I don't see how an actual physical walk-in casino will change normal people's

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Bali Hai harbor area Pattaya would be perfect. 

A casino/hotel and a mall area would sure bring lots more Chinese and curious tourists. 

1 hour ago, zzzzz said:

Wont ever happen
 

That's what was said about weed...now look.

Edited by wombat

3 hours ago, Suvarnbhum said:

AKA...Brown envelop with hard financial proof in it.

Over 20s only is a good thing . Look at the Cambodian casinos with young children running around . 

Thinking they would want proof of funds/cash ( open your wallet or be a known hi-so) in order to show you have the means to gamble and not be an onlooker . There are folk that enter Cambodian casinos with a few coins and spend all day sat in punters seats , very annoying .

To those who condemn this venture on the grounds that it will encourage gambling and make the poor poorer , they do not come into the equation because this country only rewards the rich and has been that way for some time e.g. no social security or safety net . The casinos are being set up for those who have money , not a couple of baht . 

I suppose that the 30% is on the declared profits ? I hope that the government will set up a commissioner to regulate the gambling business as is done in most Western countries .  I say bravo to the Thai government for this move to the modern world . 

Well the unofficial casino operators now pay 20% "tax" - go figure! 

5 hours ago, lujanit said:

CP?????

Chang more like.

30% sounds fair.

 

Hopefully have a proper "sports book".   That would bring in tons of money.

 

Think beyond a seedy border casino like the ones in Cambodia or Laos. 

 

Mix it up with high end and low end. 

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

Bali Hai harbor area Pattaya would be perfect. 

A casino/hotel and a mall area would sure bring lots more Chinese and curious tourists. 

Pattaya is slated as the site in the Central area (from another news outlet). My guess is that it will be built on one of the many empty plots on 2nd Rd between Klang and Central Marina, but your suggestion is also a viable option.

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5 hours ago, webfact said:

Gamblers would need to be at least 20 years old to enter the legal casinos and provide their financial status before entering. Government officials would not be allowed to enter, unless they have permits.

Ok, I understand about under- 20s not allowed. But Government officials?  Are they too poor, too stupid, too gullible or too corrupt to be allowed to gamble? 

And, how do they qualify for a permit..... competitive examination, nepotism/cronyism, or brown envelope?

 

Answers on a lottery ticket, please... preferably with winning numbers.

 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Gamblers would need to be at least 20 years old to enter the legal casinos and provide their financial status before entering. Government officials would not be allowed to enter, unless they have permits.

Ok, I understand about under- 20s not allowed. But Government officials?  Are they too poor, too stupid, too gullible or too corrupt to be allowed to gamble? 

And, how do they qualify for a permit..... competitive examination, nepotism/cronyism, or brown envelope?

 

Answers on a lottery ticket, please... preferably with winning numbers.

 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Gamblers would need to be at least 20 years old to enter the legal casinos and provide their financial status before entering.

They must be pretty stupid and on top of that they want 30%.

Now that's an absolutely No No.

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Gamblers would need to be at least 20 years old to enter the legal casinos and provide their financial status before entering. Government officials would not be allowed to enter, unless they have permits.

Ok, I understand about under- 20s not allowed. But Government officials?  Are they too poor, too stupid, too gullible or too corrupt to be allowed to gamble? 

And, how do they qualify for a permit..... competitive examination, nepotism/cronyism, or brown envelope?

 

Answers on a lottery ticket, please... preferably with winning numbers.

 

Let the party bigin! A big learning curve ahead.

2 hours ago, zzzzz said:

Wont ever happen
to many influential people have serious $$$ in the casinos in Burma, Laos & Cambodia

Interesting comment and I totally agree. I am familiar with what happens in Poipet, Cambodia. At weekends (pre-Covid-19), many hundreds of cars arrived in Aranyaphratet on the Thai side of the border and were parked over the weekend in several security carparks there. The many punters, mainly Thai, then walked across into "no man's land" near Poipet to gamble at one of the Chinese operated casinos. If all this gambling was to switch to legal Thai casinos nearer the punters homes, I'm sure the Chinese would not be happy bunnies!! A similar situation could arise in Tachilek, Burma should all the passenger vans that used to line up to cross from Mae Sai are redirected to possibly more convenient casinos within Thailand. The Chinese make seriously "big" money from casinos just across the Thai border. Maybe they will operate the new Thai casinos if approved??

Legal casinos won't happen because the people behind the illegal ones would lose mountains of money. And those with that money are very powerful and influential people, and those people win. Always. The law bends to them, it doesn't punish them. Especially in a place like Thailand, as every one of us knows.

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with revenues taxed at 30%

That is totally ridiculous. I could understand it if there was a 30% tax on profits, but not on revenue.

7 hours ago, lujanit said:

CP?????

or CCP .... same as in Cambodia

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I wonder if they have been reading about the Star/Crown casino inqiries in Australia. Owned by the rich and respectable people and now told they are not fit to have their licenses.

3 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Your are right on, many times when I went to the Casino in Perth[ owned by the government] I saw many Asian's there 70 to 80% and betting like there was no tomorrow and they don't stop even if they hit the jackpot 

 Was owned by Crown.(not  gov.t)

7 hours ago, whereyougo said:

Prayuth government legalizing pot and possibly casinos?  He continues to surprise

You forgot to mention there is an election next year, got to keep the natives sweet.

1 hour ago, MrJ2U said:

Hopefully have a proper "sports book". 

Sports books and all other casino games (without going to a disgustingly smelly, cigarette smoke-filled Asian casino) are readily available in the comfort of your own Thai home! 
Just need a VPN and access to an address/bank account in the country whose online gambling company you choose. 

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Gamblers would need to be at least 20 years old to enter the legal casinos and provide their financial status before entering.

They start with a good idea--legalize gambling--then completely go off the rails with such silly rules.

31 minutes ago, Nemises said:

Sports books and all other casino games (without going to a disgustingly smelly, cigarette smoke-filled Asian casino) are readily available in the comfort of your own Thai home! 
Just need a VPN and access to an address/bank account in the country whose online gambling company you choose. 

Definitely not worth getting caught.

 

I wouldn't trust VPN for anything illegal. 

 

"Gambling sites cover many scenarios in their terms and conditions. They call on these terms and conditions to confiscate your money for something like wrongly using a virtual private network."

 

https://www.bestuscasinos.org/blog/pros-and-cons-of-vpn-gambling/#:~:text=Your Funds Could Be Confiscated&text=But you do face the,using a virtual private network.

 

But, each to his own. 

8 hours ago, whereyougo said:

Prayuth government legalizing pot and possibly casinos?  He continues to surprise

Desperate to stay in power ?

Hoo-boy! Girls, well, yeah. Booze till 2am, no afternoon sales ban. killer weed (saw a dude selling with a big sign out of the trunk of his car on my street, just like fruit-sellers. Now gambling, looks like greed is winning out over the fake morals police running our lives.

5 hours ago, flexomike said:

Yes you would be subject to taxation 

But would they deduct it at source, or would the winner have time to do an airport run and off-ski! ????

And as a follow up, can you be extradited to the USA for owing tax?

 

See the devilishly cunning plan I'm hatching here?

29 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Definitely not worth getting caught.

 

I wouldn't trust VPN for anything illegal. 

 

"Gambling sites cover many scenarios in their terms and conditions. They call on these terms and conditions to confiscate your money for something like wrongly using a virtual private network."

 

https://www.bestuscasinos.org/blog/pros-and-cons-of-vpn-gambling/#:~:text=Your Funds Could Be Confiscated&text=But you do face the,using a virtual private network.

 

But, each to his own. 

Can’t speak for US gambling sites (where the link was written), but never had a problem using VPNs with numerous Australian sites…over many years. And that includes making a number of large five-figure withdrawals into my Australian bank accounts whilst in Thailand. 

It's a tax on uneducated people bad at Math (probability theory).

 

use the money  to attract  real quality  tourists by building  art galleries- wealth and class follows culture Not water scooter competitions.  Pattaya  used to have a chess festival!

I see a Casino Visa coming ! The organizers will want to attract the people with cash. Casino business is not something amateurs can do. Done badly, Thailand would be like one big Sihanoukville.

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