Cheapest good weed now ? I found 350 thb/gram but not cheaper yet, any idea ?

[wombat]

17 hours ago, HugoFastor said:

Worst advice. But best way to possibly ruin your weed.

Any time I saw this done over 50 years ago the end result was mould.

Early hippy urban myths that didn't work.

[AlwaysThere]

1 hour ago, wombat said:

Any time I saw this done over 50 years ago the end result was mould.

Early hippy urban myths that didn't work.

 

Oh really?

 

 

[Wuvu2]

11 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

The general advice seems to be to start with a couple of hours. Especially if you use a larger bit of peel. Just a couple or few buds at a time, so that can control the humidity and not waste your buds.

You can search it out yourself to read other people's recommendations. Be good if you report your findings/results.

Lettuce works just as well and doesn't impart a smell. 

[AlwaysThere]

5 minutes ago, Wuvu2 said:

Lettuce works just as well and doesn't impart a smell. 

 

Good to see people here sharing tips to help others, rather than pretending to be some elite. 

 

There's also the RAW Hydrostone: https://rawthentic.com/prawducts/smoking-gear/hydration-humidity/raw-hydrostone/

 

You have to ask yourself why the knowledgeable folks here didn't even try to suggest any alternatives.

[HugoFastor]

“Washed bud” refers to cannabis flower that has gone through a process known as “water hash” or “bubble hash” extraction, which uses ice water to remove trichomes — the resin glands that contain cannabinoids (THC, CBD) and terpenes (aromatic compounds). The washing process separates the trichomes from the plant material, producing a concentrated hash or extract, while the cannabis flower itself becomes “washed,” meaning that it has lost most of its potency and aroma.

 

In other words, washed bud is cannabis that has already been used for extraction. While it retains the appearance of whole cannabis flower, it no longer contains significant levels of cannabinoids or terpenes and is generally not useful for smoking or further extraction.

 

The process of washing cannabis with ice water removes trichomes, but it leaves the structure of the cannabis flower itself intact. Here’s how this works:

 

1. What’s Being Removed:

THC, CBD, and other cannabinoids are primarily concentrated in the trichomes, which are tiny, crystal-like resin glands that cover the surface of the cannabis flower, especially the buds. Trichomes are sticky and brittle, especially when cold. They contain most of the psychoactive and aromatic compounds, like cannabinoids and terpenes.

 

2. The Ice Water Process:

In the ice water washing (or “bubble hash”) process, the cannabis is mixed with cold water and ice. The cold temperature makes the trichomes more brittle and less sticky, allowing them to break off easily from the plant material. Agitation (either by hand or machine) is then used to knock these trichomes off the flower.

 

3. Filtration:

Once the trichomes detach, the mixture is filtered through a series of fine mesh bags (known as “bubble bags”) with increasingly smaller micron sizes. These bags capture the trichomes while letting the plant material, or the “washed bud,” pass through.

 

4. Appearance of Washed Bud:

Since only the trichomes are removed, the rest of the flower structure remains relatively untouched. This means that the washed buds will look almost the same as they did before, but now they’re missing their trichomes and, consequently, most of their potency. Under a microscope or a close inspection, you’d see fewer or no trichomes on washed bud compared to fresh cannabis flower.

 

5. Final Product:

The washed buds look intact but are significantly less potent, as they’ve lost the primary source of cannabinoids and terpenes. This makes them largely unsuitable for smoking or further extraction, though some people may use them in low-potency infusions.

 

This process is popular in creating bubble hash, a high-quality cannabis concentrate, while the remaining washed bud is typically discarded or used for low-potency applications.

 

It can happen that unscrupulous vendors might try to sell washed bud as if it were regular, potent cannabis. Since washed buds retain much of the visual appearance of fresh cannabis — like size, shape, and color — but lack potency, they can be passed off to unsuspecting buyers who may not immediately realize that the buds have been stripped of their trichomes.

 

However, there are a few ways to spot washed bud:

 

1. Trichome Density: Under close inspection, washed bud usually has a duller appearance due to the lack of shiny trichomes. Fresh cannabis has a frosty look because of these resin glands, which are mostly missing on washed bud.

2. Aroma: Washed bud often lacks the strong smell typical of high-quality cannabis. Terpenes, which are responsible for aroma, are mostly stripped away during washing, so the buds may smell weak or slightly “off.”

 

3. Feel and Stickiness: Fresh cannabis is usually slightly sticky because of its resin content. Washed bud, however, feels drier and less tacky.

 

4. Price and Source: Washed bud is often very inexpensive compared to high-potency cannabis. If someone is offering a “too good to be true” deal on flower, it could be a red flag.

[HugoFastor]

On 11/3/2024 at 12:49 PM, BritManToo said:

 

Comparing these two photos, the weed doesn't look like the same stuff. In the first photo, the buds look dense and tight with some trichomes. In the second photo they look dry, loose, and no trichomes.

You also mentioned it has no real taste or smell. That's not very common for cannabis, whether or not it's grown indoors or outdoors, it's unusual for it to have no real taste or smell when, in fact, cannabis buds are typically aromatic flowers and, at the very least, will have a reasonable amount of taste when you smoke them. 
 

You also mentioned that it has high THC, but without any sort of THC test, or being able to gauge what your own THC tolerance level is, that could be a subjective evaluation.
 

I've also purchased a lot of low priced flower, very similar in price to yours, but from other vendors, and the taste and smell was very strong. So low priced bud doesn't necessarily lack smell and flavor just because it is low priced.
 

Washed bud can sometimes also be harder and denser because it’s been dried out more than usual during the washing process.

 

Cannabis that has been washed and dried thoroughly also becomes brittle and crumbly, which might cause it to shatter when ground. Fresh cannabis typically has some moisture and resin content, giving it a sticky, malleable texture rather than a shattering one.

 

So based on everything I've seen and heard here so far, I would agree, it does look and sound a lot like washed bud. Personally I would avoid it myself, but if your satisfied with it and enjoy it then no problem. 

[gargamon]

10 hours ago, HugoFastor said:

“Washed bud” refers to cannabis flower that has gone through a process known as “water hash” or “bubble hash” extraction, which uses ice water to remove trichomes — the resin glands that contain cannabinoids (THC, CBD) and terpenes (aromatic compounds). The washing process separates the trichomes from the plant material, producing a concentrated hash or extract, while the cannabis flower itself becomes “washed,” meaning that it has lost most of its potency and aroma.

 

In other words, washed bud is cannabis that has already been used for extraction. While it retains the appearance of whole cannabis flower, it no longer contains significant levels of cannabinoids or terpenes and is generally not useful for smoking or further extraction.

 

The process of washing cannabis with ice water removes trichomes, but it leaves the structure of the cannabis flower itself intact. Here’s how this works:

 

1. What’s Being Removed:

THC, CBD, and other cannabinoids are primarily concentrated in the trichomes, which are tiny, crystal-like resin glands that cover the surface of the cannabis flower, especially the buds. Trichomes are sticky and brittle, especially when cold. They contain most of the psychoactive and aromatic compounds, like cannabinoids and terpenes.

 

2. The Ice Water Process:

In the ice water washing (or “bubble hash”) process, the cannabis is mixed with cold water and ice. The cold temperature makes the trichomes more brittle and less sticky, allowing them to break off easily from the plant material. Agitation (either by hand or machine) is then used to knock these trichomes off the flower.

 

3. Filtration:

Once the trichomes detach, the mixture is filtered through a series of fine mesh bags (known as “bubble bags”) with increasingly smaller micron sizes. These bags capture the trichomes while letting the plant material, or the “washed bud,” pass through.

 

4. Appearance of Washed Bud:

Since only the trichomes are removed, the rest of the flower structure remains relatively untouched. This means that the washed buds will look almost the same as they did before, but now they’re missing their trichomes and, consequently, most of their potency. Under a microscope or a close inspection, you’d see fewer or no trichomes on washed bud compared to fresh cannabis flower.

 

5. Final Product:

The washed buds look intact but are significantly less potent, as they’ve lost the primary source of cannabinoids and terpenes. This makes them largely unsuitable for smoking or further extraction, though some people may use them in low-potency infusions.

 

This process is popular in creating bubble hash, a high-quality cannabis concentrate, while the remaining washed bud is typically discarded or used for low-potency applications.

 

It can happen that unscrupulous vendors might try to sell washed bud as if it were regular, potent cannabis. Since washed buds retain much of the visual appearance of fresh cannabis — like size, shape, and color — but lack potency, they can be passed off to unsuspecting buyers who may not immediately realize that the buds have been stripped of their trichomes.

 

However, there are a few ways to spot washed bud:

 

1. Trichome Density: Under close inspection, washed bud usually has a duller appearance due to the lack of shiny trichomes. Fresh cannabis has a frosty look because of these resin glands, which are mostly missing on washed bud.

2. Aroma: Washed bud often lacks the strong smell typical of high-quality cannabis. Terpenes, which are responsible for aroma, are mostly stripped away during washing, so the buds may smell weak or slightly “off.”

 

3. Feel and Stickiness: Fresh cannabis is usually slightly sticky because of its resin content. Washed bud, however, feels drier and less tacky.

 

4. Price and Source: Washed bud is often very inexpensive compared to high-potency cannabis. If someone is offering a “too good to be true” deal on flower, it could be a red flag.

Great explanation. Thanks.Your #3 on filtration is backwards though. The filter bags capture the washed bud and the ”goodies”  pass through.

Edited November 5 by gargamon

[BritManToo]

11 hours ago, HugoFastor said:

I've also purchased a lot of low priced flower, very similar in price to yours, but from other vendors, and the taste and smell was very strong. So low priced bud doesn't necessarily lack smell and flavor just because it is low priced.

I was growing my own for 2 years, and the only plant I grew that had significant smell was White Widow, the other 20 or so hybrids I grew were relatively smell free. I also shared some of my grow with other forum members, and they didn't find it abnormal. Been smoking 0.5g a night since COVID started, it all tastes like a variation on burnt straw to me, some raw bud has a slight smell, but mostly not.

 

[nobodysfriend]

On 7/5/2022 at 6:48 PM, wbmjc said:

hello,

 

What is the cheapest good weed that you have found ? The best offer I get is 350/gram and as a gram is half a day, I am still looking for cheaper without waiting for months.

 

Thank you for your replies

 

You live in a city .

If you would live countryside , just ask someone if he knows somebody who grows it ...

In the country , a lot of people became cultivators of good ganja ...

My wife buys a bag with 50 grams of heads for 500 ...

[AlwaysThere]

16 hours ago, HugoFastor said:

Comparing these two photos, the weed doesn't look like the same stuff. In the first photo, the buds look dense and tight with some trichomes. In the second photo they look dry, loose, and no trichomes.

You also mentioned it has no real taste or smell. That's not very common for cannabis, whether or not it's grown indoors or outdoors, it's unusual for it to have no real taste or smell when, in fact, cannabis buds are typically aromatic flowers and, at the very least, will have a reasonable amount of taste when you smoke them. 
 

You also mentioned that it has high THC, but without any sort of THC test, or being able to gauge what your own THC tolerance level is, that could be a subjective evaluation.
 

I've also purchased a lot of low priced flower, very similar in price to yours, but from other vendors, and the taste and smell was very strong. So low priced bud doesn't necessarily lack smell and flavor just because it is low priced.
 

Washed bud can sometimes also be harder and denser because it’s been dried out more than usual during the washing process.

 

Cannabis that has been washed and dried thoroughly also becomes brittle and crumbly, which might cause it to shatter when ground. Fresh cannabis typically has some moisture and resin content, giving it a sticky, malleable texture rather than a shattering one.

 

So based on everything I've seen and heard here so far, I would agree, it does look and sound a lot like washed bud. Personally I would avoid it myself, but if your satisfied with it and enjoy it then no problem. 

 

Friend ordered some and sent me a photo. What is your opinion? Cherry Cosmos she says.

 

 

Edited November 6 by ElwoodP
remove messed up links

[AlwaysThere]

[ElwoodP]

Topic is cheap good weed.

if you want to discuss washing, start another thread.

[RSD1]

On 11/6/2024 at 6:42 AM, BritManToo said:

I was growing my own for 2 years, and the only plant I grew that had significant smell was White Widow, the other 20 or so hybrids I grew were relatively smell free. I also shared some of my grow with other forum members, and they didn't find it abnormal. Been smoking 0.5g a night since COVID started, it all tastes like a variation on burnt straw to me, some raw bud has a slight smell, but mostly not.

 

Any reason you stopped growing your own? To much hassle? Not worth the effort? Just curious. 
 

I assume the reason it that greenhouse grown weed is so cheap to buy now at around 20 Baht a gram on average that why bother growing your own outdoor weed. 
 

I would never grow my own. I don't really have a good outdoor location for it but, even if I did, I couldn't be bothered to mess with all the nuances of it. So much can go wrong along the way and the plants could die or have other problems. Then you got both the drying and the curing process where other things could go wrong too. And it's so much simpler to find some bud that you see, you like, and then you just buy it.

 

I am sure there is a bit of fun and gratification in growing your own, and you can also be sure that no harmful chemicals have been used in growing it, but still I could never be arsed to be a grower. 
 

I also have about 10 different strains on hand to choose from at any given time that I've purchased. Can't have that variety so easily when you're growing it yourself either. 

[BritManToo]

50 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

assume the reason it that greenhouse grown weed is so cheap to buy now at around 20 Baht a gram on average that why bother growing your own outdoor weed. 

You got it, not worthwhile when I can buy for 10-20bht/g. I was growing in an indoor tent. Tried outside but too much whitefly/greenfly.

[Yagoda]

On 11/7/2024 at 7:21 PM, BritManToo said:

You got it, not worthwhile when I can buy for 10-20bht/g. I was growing in an indoor tent. Tried outside but too much whitefly/greenfly.

You grew some good weed.

[wombat]

On 11/7/2024 at 6:29 PM, RSD1 said:

Any reason you stopped growing your own? To much hassle? Not worth the effort? Just curious. 
 

I assume the reason it that greenhouse grown weed is so cheap to buy now at around 20 Baht a gram on average that why bother growing your own outdoor weed. 
 

I would never grow my own. I don't really have a good outdoor location for it but, even if I did, I couldn't be bothered to mess with all the nuances of it. So much can go wrong along the way and the plants could die or have other problems. Then you got both the drying and the curing process where other things could go wrong too. And it's so much simpler to find some bud that you see, you like, and then you just buy it.

 

I am sure there is a bit of fun and gratification in growing your own, and you can also be sure that no harmful chemicals have been used in growing it, but still I could never be arsed to be a grower. 
 

I also have about 10 different strains on hand to choose from at any given time that I've purchased. Can't have that variety so easily when you're growing it yourself either. 

My Mrs says it's a weed,treat it like one.

It works for her 🙃

[RSD1]

9 hours ago, wombat said:

My Mrs says it's a weed,treat it like one.

It works for her 🙃

Plant it and it will grow!

[AlwaysThere]

4 baht per gram for buds now

 

[blaze master]

6 hours ago, AlwaysThere said:

4 baht per gram for buds now

 

 

Those flowers have already been processed. The thc numbers are laughable. 4b a gram hahahah. Thanks for that.

[AlwaysThere]

13 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Those flowers have already been processed. The thc numbers are laughable. 4b a gram hahahah. Thanks for that.

 

At 4 baht per gram, what's your point? @BritManToo tried some at 7 baht per gram and doesn't seem to be complaining.

Do you have skin in the game? 

[blaze master]

Just now, AlwaysThere said:

 

At 4 baht per gram, what's your point? @BritManToo tried some at 7 baht per gram and doesn't seem to be complaining.

Do you have skin in the game? 

 

My point is the flower you displayed in the pic has been processed already. Guess you missed that bit.

 

Carry on.

[AlwaysThere]

2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

My point is the flower you displayed in the pic has been processed already. Guess you missed that bit.

 

Carry on.

 

That was already discussed earlier. Another member has tried them and says they are as good as anything else he has smoked. So again, at 4 baht per gram, what's your point?

[RSD1]

I'm sick and tired of all these high prices for weed. 4 Baht, 7 Baht a gram. We know they're taking the piss when it should be much cheaper. That's it, I'm waiting until they start paying me to take the weed off their hands and that's when I'll finally start buying!
 

 

[SAFETY FIRST]

4 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

I'm waiting until they start paying me to take the weed off their hands

I can help if you get overloaded. 

I've got a big house for storage, in case you have too much. 

 

 

Edited November 12 by SAFETY FIRST

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, AlwaysThere said:

 

That was already discussed earlier. Another member has tried them and says they are as good as anything else he has smoked. So again, at 4 baht per gram, what's your point?

I bought Blackberry Moon rock at 9bht/g, as strong as anything I've had, but not much smell or taste. At the moment I'm mixing it with some older weed to reduce the strength a bit.

 

Can't say what the 4bht and 7bht is like as I already have about 6 months supply in hand now, can't smoke more than 0.5g a day. I expect they'll be sold out within a day or two, so order now if you want to try it.

[RSD1]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

At the moment I'm mixing it with some older weed to reduce the strength.

Why not just smoke less instead of it's too strong?
 

I purposely don't use any of this mid-grade weed for the opposite reason. There is nothing wrong with it, but I could easily go through over a gram in a day without ever getting solidly high. 
 

I pay 2-3 times the cost of mid-grade, but I stick to the stronger stuff that is labeled in Thailand as "exotic".
 

This way I need to consume less, which is better for overall health I believe, and I get a stronger high (while using a lot less weed) than I have ever gotten from any of the mid-grade stuff. 

[BritManToo]

10 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

way I need to consume less, which is better for overall health I believe, and I get a stronger high (while using a lot less weed) than I have ever gotten from any of the mid-grade stuff. 

Difficult to judge dosage when 1/3 joint is too much, but that's just me.

How much of your 'stronger stuff' do you smoke at one sitting?

Edited November 12 by BritManToo

[AlwaysThere]

50 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I bought Blackberry Moon rock at 9bht/g, as strong as anything I've had, but not much smell or taste. At the moment I'm mixing it with some older weed to reduce the strength a bit.

 

Can't say what the 4bht and 7bht is like as I already have about 6 months supply in hand now, can't smoke more than 0.5g a day. I expect they'll be sold out within a day or two, so order now if you want to try it.

 

I too already have too much. 

[RSD1]

37 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Difficult to judge dosage when 1/3 joint is too much, but that's just me.

How much of your 'stronger stuff' do you smoke at one sitting?

 

I assume that if I used some of the weed you’re using now, it might not have the same effect on me. I probably wouldn’t get as high as you do from the small amount you’re consuming, I’d be surprised if I found it as strong. But everyone’s tolerance is different, and it can build up over time, especially if you’re using stronger stuff regularly.

 

On average, a joint is about half a gram, so you’re likely consuming around a quarter of a gram in one sitting, maybe even less, not much at all.

 

I stopped smoking a while ago and now only use a vaporizer. I load about 0.2 grams into it each time, take three or four hits, and then dump it out. That’s enough for me in one sitting with the stuff I usually use.

 

After an hour or two, I might do it again, and maybe a third time later. In a day, I’ll go through about 0.6 grams over three sittings, and I stay solidly high the whole time. Some days I only use a total of 0.4 grams over two sittings. It depends on how I feel. 

 

When I have used mid-grade weed, I often loaded two rounds of 0.2 grams back-to-back, so I would vape 0.4 grams in one go. An hour later, I might add another 0.2 grams, but from there, no matter how much I consume, I never seem to get fully high. There’s a limit. I don’t fully understand why, but it seems that no amount of mid-grade weed gives me the same high as the stronger stuff. That's the real reason why I'm not a big fan of it.

 

That’s just my honest experience. I don’t look down on lower-priced weed; I buy it from time to time to have around or to give to friends, but I rarely use much of it myself. When I do, it’s usually after I’ve had the higher-quality stuff and want something less strong to cap off the evening.

 

Edited November 12 by RSD1

[wombat]

12 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

Those flowers have already been processed. The thc numbers are laughable. 4b a gram hahahah. Thanks for that.

When you say they've been processed...they look like they've been machine cleaned by tumbling to get the look they have...curious asks...how do you tell they've been processed from a photo