Bangkok morning turns to night - it's climate change as top Thai scientist warns of more "extreme weather"

[onthedarkside]

Several off-topic posts on political ideologies having nothing to do with climate change issues have been removed.

 

[runamok27]

10 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Here is a prediction for Darwin, Australia which is on a similar latitude as Bangkok. Bangkok can expect to same the same sort of changes.

 

Predictions for Darwin, in northern Australia, suggest an increase in days with temperatures above 35℃ from 11 days a year in 2015 to an average of 43 days under the mid-range emission scenario (IPCC’s RCP4.5 scenario) by 2030 and an average of 111 (range 54-211) days by 2090. Under the higher emission scenario (IPCC’s RCP8.5), an average of 265 days above 35℃ could be reached by 2090.

 

https://theconversation.com/climate-explained-will-the-tropics-eventually-become-uninhabitable-145174

 

Seriously ugly: here’s how Australia will look if the world heats by 3°C this century

 

At 3℃ of global warming, Australia’s present-day ecological systems would be unrecognisable.

 

https://theconversation.com/seriously-ugly-heres-how-australia-will-look-if-the-world-heats-by-3-c-this-century-157875

 

 

On a more positive note, 0% of predictions from these alarmists come true.

[The Hammer2021]

The rich and cultural elite  want the poor to be poorer and promote their views openly in leftwing papers like the  Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/30/this-age-of-abundance-must-come-to-an-end-to-save-the-planet

 

[hotchilli]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

This resulted from a warming ocean, evaporation and hot weather meaning there was more vapor in the atmosphere, he noted.

He doesn't miss a thing does he.

[ozimoron]

3 hours ago, runamok27 said:

On a more positive note, 0% of predictions from these alarmists come true.

They have all come true.

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The rich and cultural elite  want the poor to be poorer and promote their views openly in leftwing papers like the  Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/30/this-age-of-abundance-must-come-to-an-end-to-save-the-planet

 

Nonsense

[DavoTheGun]

I wonder if this Twit has heard of La Nina, that is caused by changes in Sea Temperatures, yes Climate Change, going on from the beginning of time!

[Sparktrader]

On 8/30/2022 at 7:06 AM, webfact said:

hough for many the storm's bark was worse than its bite, it dumped little rain in some areas and soon moved on, though the day remained unclear with intermittent showers until further evening light shows notes ASEAN NOW.

Gee sounds extreme not

[Stargeezr]

Climate change is happening, Global warming is happening. La Nina and El Nino 

are only two of natures influence. Forest fires affect CO2 getting released into the atmosphere

as they release lots of it and other gases. Volcanoes also release lots of gases into the atmosphere

but since they are natural causes, I doubt that the climate scientists are putting out much data publicly

about that aspect, but lets all pay a carbon tax for driving our cars and trucks with gasoline ( benzine)  or diesel

because us humans are the big problem and cows are a huge problem with methane. Some people think that the percentages

of these 2 gases in the atmosphere are large. I am not a climate change denier 

however I do not like the climate alarmists who spew false information every day. Period.

 

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[skippybangkok]

20 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

What about the weather which was sever back in 2010 was it when many of the overpasses were covered? I remember flying into Bangkok when the water was dispersing and still I could see the back end of cars sticking out of the water on flyovers.

Why do these people always want to make it sound so dramatic as if there has never been very heavy rain in the rainy season before? Attention seeking are they or just jumping on the official narrative?

Your referring to the the year when Banharn decided to keep more water in the dams cause he was smarter

 

 

[mikeredbike]

Climate change caused primarily by human activity it not debatable.  Every major scientific organization has made it clear.

[Sparktrader]

7 hours ago, ozimoron said:

They have all come true.

Except they havent. 

[Sparktrader]

6 hours ago, DavoTheGun said:

I wonder if this Twit has heard of La Nina, that is caused by changes in Sea Temperatures, yes Climate Change, going on from the beginning of time!

Yes La Nina discovered in the 1990s. Shows how little humans know about the earth.

[ozimoron]

Just now, Sparktrader said:

Except they havent. 

You can do a little cherry picking back in the 60's and 70's if you like but it doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of climate modelling is quite accurate.

[Sparktrader]

11 minutes ago, mikeredbike said:

Climate change caused primarily by human activity it not debatable.  Every major scientific organization has made it clear.

Except it is. Not 1 scientist can prove how much is nature and how much is man. Not one.

 

 

[Sparktrader]

Just now, ozimoron said:

You can do a little cherry picking back in the 60's and 70's if you like but it doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of climate modelling is quite accurate.

Prove it.

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Yes La Nina discovered in the 1990s. Shows how little humans know about the earth.

1980's but it isn't related to climate change in any way. There's a lot we don;t know about cancer either but that doesn't stop us from postulating as to the causes and trying to cure it.

 

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/el-niño-and-la-niña-frequently-asked-questions

[Sparktrader]

a letter scheduled for publication April 30 in the journal Nature Climate Change, the researchers say that projections from one of the leading models, known as CESM2, are not supported by geological evidence from a previous warming period roughly 50 million years ago.

 

The researchers used the CESM2 model to simulate temperatures during the Early Eocene, a time when rainforests thrived in the tropics of the New World, according to fossil evidence.

 

But the CESM2 model projected Early Eocene land temperatures exceeding 55 degrees Celsius (131 F) in the tropics, which is much higher than the temperature tolerance of plant photosynthesis -- conflicting with the fossil evidence.

 

On average across the globe, the model projected surface temperatures at least 6 C (11 F) warmer than estimates based on geological evidence.

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200430113003.htm

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

1980's but it isn't related to climate change in any way. There's a lot we don;t know about cancer either but that doesn't stop us from postulating as to the causes and trying to cure it.

 

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/el-niño-and-la-niña-frequently-asked-questions

La Nina changes the climate.

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Except it is. Not 1 scientist can prove how much is nature and how much is man. Not one.

 

 

Zero is caused by natural causes because no natural cause has been identified which is or can cause atmospheric warming. On the contrary, much evidence has been discovered to show that climate change is caused by man. A mathematical formula to determine the amount of temperature rise for a given CO2 increase was published over 100 years ago.

 

https://daily.jstor.org/how-19th-century-scientists-predicted-global-warming/

[Bkk Brian]

Impossible to make specific and precise predictions but......................................

 

How climate models got so accurate they earned a Nobel Prize

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/how-climate-models-got-so-accurate-they-earned-a-nobel-prize

 

Climate predictions have mostly come true

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/climate-predictions-have-mostly-come-true-jz7x8g2pc

 

20 years on, climate change projections have come true

https://theconversation.com/20-years-on-climate-change-projections-have-come-true-11245

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

a letter scheduled for publication April 30 in the journal Nature Climate Change, the researchers say that projections from one of the leading models, known as CESM2, are not supported by geological evidence from a previous warming period roughly 50 million years ago.

The researchers used the CESM2 model to simulate temperatures during the Early Eocene, a time when rainforests thrived in the tropics of the New World, according to fossil evidence.

But the CESM2 model projected Early Eocene land temperatures exceeding 55 degrees Celsius (131 F) in the tropics, which is much higher than the temperature tolerance of plant photosynthesis -- conflicting with the fossil evidence. On average across the globe, the model projected surface temperatures at least 6 C (11 F) warmer than estimates based on geological evidence.

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200430113003.htm

"from one of the leading models"

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Zero is caused by natural causes because no natural cause has been identified which is or can cause atmospheric warming. On the contrary, much evidence has been discovered to show that climate change is caused by man. A mathematical formula to determine the amount of temperature rise for a given CO2 increase was published over 100 years ago.

 

https://daily.jstor.org/how-19th-century-scientists-predicted-global-warming/

So all the climate change from 4bn years ago to 1850 didnt happen?

 

Wow....

 

No natural change? Wow

 

Some theory you have

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

La Nina changes the climate.

and the relevance to climate change is...?

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Impossible to make specific and precise predictions but......................................

 

How climate models got so accurate they earned a Nobel Prize

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/how-climate-models-got-so-accurate-they-earned-a-nobel-prize

 

Climate predictions have mostly come true

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/climate-predictions-have-mostly-come-true-jz7x8g2pc

 

20 years on, climate change projections have come true

https://theconversation.com/20-years-on-climate-change-projections-have-come-true-11245

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200430113003.htm

[Sparktrader]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

and the relevance to climate change is...?

La Nina changes the climate.

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, Sparktrader said:

So all the climate change from 4bn years ago to 1850 didnt happen?

 

Wow....

 

No natural change? Wow

 

Some theory you have

Warming is occurring at a rate many thousands of times faster than at any time in the past apart from major volcanic eruptions. Furthermore, the primary driver of atmospheric temperature is at the highest  levels for almost a million years.

 

There is natural change. Right now it should be slowly cooling. Stating the obvious that natural change exists is in no way proving that any of the current warming is related to natural change, let alone how much.

[huangnon]

Anyone noticed beachfront property getting sold cheap, yet?

 

Thought not.

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, Sparktrader said:

La Nina changes the climate.

I said it doesn't have any relation to climate change.

[Sparktrader]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

I said it doesn't have any relation to climate change.

Climate change is both natural and manmade.